Kiwi-family
{Rachael, the Mama of the family}
- Time of past OR future Camino
- walking every day for the rest of my life
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Aaah leave them at home. What mischief could 15yo and 16yo boys get up to.........................................? I personally was an angel at that age.I have been wondering what to do with the boys who will be 15 and 16.
Ah Falcon, I usually agree with you;-) However, your comment made me think more than the others (although others have certainly been helpful).At the risk of sounding cynical, if you have to ask, you know the answer!
Perhaps the balance point is to let them walk alone each day, but meet up at a designated spot. They could carry Grandpa's gear for him and also take books to continue their studies each afternoon as they would have plenty of time;-)
Child, Youth and Family Services may be able to give you a sound perspective. You could give them a call.I reached the conclusion that I was asking because of what I don't know.
Since you're from NZ I assume your children do not have free access to Spanish healthcare. I'm a citizen but not a resident, and I do not get access to free healthcare. So ... in case of a medical emergency ... (not life threatening), will anyone go along with their wishes to have this and that done? These boys are not of an age to enter in a legally binding contract. If they were home, they would be covered (at least in countries where health insurance is universal), but not in a foreign country. And what about them being blamed (rightly or not) for damages to an albergue etc.?I had considered "emergency plans" for Spain and all scenarios I had come up with had solutions.
I love the compromise you've come up with. The boys will be on their own all day, be helping grandpa with his burden, and have a bit of structure for the afternoons. They may not need the structure, but it certainly isn't harmful and will help allay the fears of nearby adults who might want to "contribute" to their well being.Perhaps the balance point is to let them walk alone each day, but meet up at a designated spot. They could carry Grandpa's gear for him and also take books to continue their studies each afternoon as they would have plenty of time;-) Or maybe we'll jsut send them to India like we did with last year's 16 and 16 year olds!!
As I have been contemplating walking another camino in spring 2017 with my father-in-law (and probably two youngest daughters who will be 11 and 13 by then), I have been wondering what to do with the boys who will be 15 and 16. As they are homeschooled we have great flexibility, and I'm rather inclined to NOT just leave them at home while we go walking!
However, we will be doing a slow camino (if we do one at all) as father-in-law/Grandpa will be 85 and plodding along with a spine now supported by rods and plates (and someone else's bone for good measure).
These four kids have walked over 2,000km in the past couple of years - I know they are capable. The boys are quite keen on doing a cycle camino - is it any more tricky than walking? If I sent them off to do their own route, would there be any advantage to being on foot rather than with bikes? (other than slowing them down!)
Would you have any qualms about sending two lads to do their own camino at 15 and 16? If so, what exactly?
While I walked caminos with the youngest four, the 15 and 16 year olds who are interested in going into teaching spent two months volunteering with a homeschooling family and running a kids' programme at a conference. They then spent a month travelling round the country, clocking up 7,000km on trains and a few more on camels with Grandpa, who had spent his early years in India and agreed to chaperone them for the touring bit as an octogenarian!!@Kiwi-family What did your kids do in India last year?
Since you're from NZ I assume your children do not have free access to Spanish healthcare. And what about them being blamed (rightly or not) for damages to an albergue etc.?
We always get a comprehensive medical insurance when we travel - and had the opportunity on our first camino to try it out. There were no problems and we got great medical service.
As for being blamed for damages....if anyone wants to take them on, good luck to them! They can argue the hind leg off a donkey. But I don't mean to be flippant. Actually, this was something I had not considered - I expected they would not do anything stupid (as in I would trust them to behave appropriately - and if they had an accident - perhaps broke a glass or something in the cocina, I would expect them to take responsibility for it). I had not thought about them being wrongfully accused of something greater. Question now is how much that "what if" affects the ultimate decision.
Only in Asturias:alcohol can also be purchased from 16.
I still suspect you are a computer and not a real person---perhaps a warm fuzzy one, but a computer none the less. You said "bookmarks" but it would take a computer to select from the zillions of bookmarks that you must have.Only in Asturias:
18 in most autonomous communities of Spain. Asturias remains as last autonomous communitie in Spain where the drinking age remains at 16. Although the Governing Council gave the green light to a new law banning alcohol consumption below 18, the new legislation is still pending in period, open to amendments of the parliamentary groups.
It is illegal to sell alcohol to people under 18, the fine being between €30,000 and €600,000. Stores are not allowed to sell alcohol between 10 p.m. and 9 a.m without a specific license, after a recent law was passed.
I still suspect you are a computer and not a real person---perhaps a warm fuzzy one, but a computer none the less. You said "bookmarks" but it would take a computer to select from the zillions of bookmarks that you must have.
First, I check all alleged facts with snopes.com !!!!I still suspect you are a computer and not a real person---perhaps a warm fuzzy one, but a computer none the less. You said "bookmarks" but it would take a computer to select from the zillions of bookmarks that you must have.
Only in Asturias:
18 in most autonomous communities of Spain. Asturias remains as last autonomous communitie in Spain where the drinking age remains at 16. Although the Governing Council gave the green light to a new law banning alcohol consumption below 18, the new legislation is still pending in period, open to amendments of the parliamentary groups.
It is illegal to sell alcohol to people under 18, the fine being between €30,000 and €600,000. Stores are not allowed to sell alcohol between 10 p.m. and 9 a.m without a specific license, after a recent law was passed.
@SYates, nothing about me. And I hope you didn't find my remark offensive as I have the utmost respect for anyone who has such a wealth of information at their fingertips. It's overwhelming.
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