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I have completed the Annapurna circuit in winter. I looked intensively for 25 days to find the endangered snow leopard and Yeti without success.
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This is the closest I came to finding the iberian snow lynx. I know wolves exist, I pray the lynx is still alive.
What can a conservationist pilgrim do to help bring back this wonderful feline back to the camino frances.
We lost the tasmanian tiger.
Lets not lose another cat in the world, especially on gods highway.
Kind regard Oz.
What can a conservationist pilgrim do to help bring back this wonderful feline back to the camino frances.
The Iberian Lynx (no snow) is limited to Andalucia.
It has a beard, and some eye stripes. I said it is descended from an iberian lynx. I did not say it was a pure bred.
Jackalopes aren't real? You mean that guy in west Texas was lying all those years ago?Seems to me when folks start reporting house cats as Lynx, the jackalopes are not far behind. I personally wish Jackalopes were a bit bigger so they could feed more Lynx (kitties) but I guess they are too fast as it is.
For those of you that have not seen a Jackalope Google image.
There is a dot around the mountains around leon. Is that the lynx exrement or an actual lynx.
Lets be honest the lynx is a handsome cat he gets around. Plus he will certainly be a formidable.
So I am saying that it is not implausible to suggest that some cats are descended from lynx sprog.
The one I posted definetly has a lynx beard. If it had the top ear fur you would be more convinced.
Well looks like a fact finding camino is in order. Some saliva sample swabs. Look forward to your next camino.
This is why I don't want my dna analyzed I may have a wild cousin... BigfootI think all domestic cats are descendants of wild cats, just as all dogs are descendants of wild dogs.
I'm sure they all share some percentage of DNA with their wild cousins.
Tons of wild bobcats (similar to a lynx) in Texas. I never saw a house cat that was a cross breed of the two. Not saying that it doesn't happen, but I'm sure it's a rare instance.
Well, MT, if I was related to Mr. Bigfoot, I would likely be found in the vicinity of los chiringuitos between Malaga and Nerja.This is why I don't want my dna analyzed I may have a wild cousin... Bigfoot
No matter the variation of a true Lynx they are simply beautiful. It is nice the fur trade has almost stopped as that was really the biggest detriment to all species world wide.This is an iberian lynx with Alpine camouflage, I would suggest and hope that he has been knocking around the mountains of leon.
Lets just call him, " Score again".
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This is an iberian lynx with Alpine camouflage, I would suggest and hope that he has been knocking around the mountains of leon.
Lets just call him, " Score again".
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@whariwharangi, how bold! I thought this was a thread started on the basis of a Roy S. Durstine quote 'My mind is made up. Don’t confuse me with the facts.' and we were merely here to provide uninformed support to the OP's views on this matter.“What are the facts? Again and again and again – what are the facts? Shun wishful thinking, ignore divine revelation, forget what “the stars foretell,” avoid opinion, care not what the neighbors think, never mind the unguessable “verdict of history” – what are the facts, and to how many decimal places? You pilot always into an unknown future; facts are your single clue. Get the facts!”
-Robert Heinlein
“What are the facts? Again and again and again – what are the facts? Shun wishful thinking, ignore divine revelation, forget what “the stars foretell,” avoid opinion, care not what the neighbors think, never mind the unguessable “verdict of history” – what are the facts, and to how many decimal places? You pilot always into an unknown future; facts are your single clue. Get the facts!”
-Robert Heinlein
@whariwharangi, how bold! I thought this was a thread started on the basis of a Roy S. Durstine quote 'My mind is made up. Don’t confuse me with the facts.' and we were merely here to provide uninformed support to the OP's views on this matter.
I'm sorry, but if someone starts a post with a picture of a domestic moggie and a superficial little quiz about the Iberian lynx, one might suspect there is a bit of leg-pulling going on. I suspect @Oztrekker is laughing so much he is at risk of spilling his XXXX.The above snide remark makes for a sour end to the thread.
I'm sorry, but if someone starts a post with a picture of a domestic moggie and a superficial little quiz about the Iberian lynx, one might suspect there is a bit of leg-pulling going on. I suspect @Oztrekker is laughing so much he is at risk of spilling his XXXX.
I am happy for you to treat it as a serious conversation, but let me first tell you about a bridge I have for sale in Sydney...
but let me first tell you about a bridge I have for sale in Sydney...
If you walk the camino frances, and you see a cat with a white beard, photograph it, or even better get a saliva sample as well.
Right on christopher the lynx will return to the camino frances
laughing my catass off!
What is a fact? It is no more than something that is currently known to be true. Plenty of facts have been shown to be false over the years as ideas more forward.
And in order to even make a stab at a fact, you first need to make observations.
@Castilian - when walking between Ponte Mera and San Andrés de Teixido we saw an animal which we thought could be what we would have called a 'gateau de monte'. Far too large for a domestic cat, pale coloured, and with a bushier dark tail. (It was not a fox). There were no houses anywhere near and it ran off when it saw us. It was just out of photo range. Any ideas what we saw?What Lynx?
Let's recall in Asturias and other areas of Northern Spain there were Eurasian Lynx (Lynx Lynx)...
P.S.: The area represented by the blue dot on the map I quoted on my previous reply to this read is meant to be (or so I think) the Leonese side of the Ancares (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Os_Ancares), an area don't crossed by the Camino Francés. Anyway, if you pay close attention to the blue dot, you'll see it doesn't get as South as to cross the Camino Francés. FWIW, I don't recall a source suggesting presence of the Iberian Lynx on the Camino Francés in the last century but I'm not an expert on the subject...
The problem is that no one in recent time has observed the Iberian Lynx anywhere near the camino. Fact with observation (or lack thereof)
I don't think there are any large cats in Spain. The lynx is bigger than the average house-cat, but nothing in the category of a large predatory cat (tigers, lions, cougars, leopards, etc) and certainly not a threat to an adult human.Everyone laughed at me a few years ago when I reported HUGE cat tracks in the hills on the Camino Aragones.
They were cougar-sized tracks, and I quickly learned there were no cougars in Spain.
But I know the difference between dog and cat tracks, and this was a VERY large cat - not a house cat.
The hair on the back of my neck raised and I was very alert the rest of that stage.
I don't know about Spain but in the USA, because of dramatic weather changes and loss of habitat and food sources, many wild animals are coming out of the hills in closer to civilization.
I know what I saw.
I don't think there are any large cats in Spain. The lynx is bigger than the average house-cat, but nothing in the category of a large predatory cat (tigers, lions, cougars, leopards, etc) and certainly not a threat to an adult human.
I never expressed an opinion on the photo, though it does remind me of the feral cats that lived off the rubbish bins where we lived in the middle east.
My comment was a general swipe at people with closed minds. People who dismiss out of hand an amateur's observations because they contradict an 'expert's' opinion. People who slavishly and unthinkingly accept what those in authority say. People who can not even entertain the idea that the established wisdom might need to change. anniesantiago will know what I am talking about.
And I don't think it's beyond possibility that a lynx is in the northern mountains of Spain.
Did you read the article?
Did you see the photos?
Southern Spain does have a stressed population of lynx.
Due to disease, the rabbit population, their main food source, is low, and the idea that one or a pair could migrate north looking for food isn't beyond belief for me.
Wild cats, bears, coyotes and foxes are well-known to travel outside their normal range in search of food in the USA.
There's no reason to believe it can't happen anywhere else.
I won't be pulled into an argument. ::shrug::
As I said, I know what I saw.
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