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I went to Israel a couple of years ago - not hiking - mainly spending time touring the sites in Jerusalem. I loved the welcome I got as a fairly obvious Christian and would hope any Jewish pilgrims would feel the same on the Camino!zammy said:I am happy to see Christians coming to hike in Israel, whether it's the Israel National trail or Jesus trail, more and more are coming to this land to share with us our country.
The bond is getting stronger every year and I urge my fellows Israeli hikers all the time to travel to Europe and hike the Camino.
Rebekah Scott said:Plenty of Jews on the camino. It is open to everybody. Sure, it is traditionally a Christian path, but even the churches that are open aren´t exactly evangelical.
That said, the camino is not for everybody... and a lot of those people are on the camino, too!
Hi xm, this link doesn't work here; could you please rephrase?Guest said:
quercus22 said:I'm intrigued by your "not for everyone" statement. Can you give me an example of who the Camino might not be for? I am still trying to get a better sense of what this trail and walking it is all about and if it will be right for me.
Pieces said:The Camino is for those who choose to walk it, regardless....
India?David said:the problem is?|
You got close in your former life in miscellaneous-topics/topic11158.html#p71829David said:India?
David, in most peoples minds there is no problem, but beccause the camino is a small slice of life there are those few who believe that Jews or Muslims or Buddiists or whatever religion should not walk the camino because they are not Christian or indeed Chatholic or pure of heart or are not prepared to suffer enough or visit every church on the way. Thankfuly these are in the small minority. I met people from all major religions and no religion on my camino and they were walking it for their own reasons and good luck to them I say.David said:.
Judaism Christianity and Islam all have the same God .. Jesus spoke Aramaic; in Aramaic the word for 'God' is 'Allah'
we are all of the books ... there should be no problem, don't you think?
Buen Camino :wink:
wayfarer said:David, in most peoples minds there is no problem, but beccause the camino is a small slice of life there are those few who believe that Jews or Muslims or Buddiists or whatever religion should not walk the camino because they are not Christian or indeed Chatholic or pure of heart or are not prepared to suffer enough or visit every church on the way. Thankfuly these are in the small minority. I met people from all major religions and no religion on my camino and they were walking it for their own reasons and good luck to them I say.David said:.
Judaism Christianity and Islam all have the same God .. Jesus spoke Aramaic; in Aramaic the word for 'God' is 'Allah'
we are all of the books ... there should be no problem, don't you think?
Buen Camino :wink:
It’s about twin aspects of our own lives, the Camino, James [Jacobus], Thomas [Didymus], Jesus, Saint Issa, mortal and heavenly twins, Dioscuri, etc., etc., etc. Atom means undividable and Thomas means divided [twin, split, cut in half – think of vasectomy]. Most interesting stories, but it’s already been discussed a lot on this forum, so we’d better PM if you like.David said:I still don't understand your India reference
Everyone is welcome to go to a Catholic Mass (though not take Communion). Maybe they were just surprised that you were there given that you're an atheist! Buen Camino!MCVet said:I don't know the Catholic religion so maybe I wasn't supposed to go to Mass or something (maybe something like defiling the church or something perhaps? I didn't bring it up). Beyond that, there was no adversity that I encountered, just curiosity. It's certainly not like it is here in the states.
Simple mistake. You won't burn in Hell for it!MCVet said:Yah, that's what I assumed. Though i did take Communion because I was just doing what everyone else did (kneeled when they kneeled and so forth), uhm...oops.
Were He and Jacobus converted the same way? How would Jewish Camino pilgrims look at it?David said:Yeshua was still a Rabbi with Jewish teachings
:?:David said:All is well
I asked a friend of mine to join me on my planned pilgrimage in May. His reply after some study was that, while he is very attracted to the idea of pilgrimage, The Camino isn't his pilgrimage. He said that even though he would love the walk and the company, the essential Christian nature of it would require him to be constantly "reframing" everything. By that, I infer that he means translating all the iconography and liturgy into more universal terms that he would find less exclusive. I infer that, because it is exactly the process I have found myself engaged in since I decided to do the walk. I know that it has been designated a CULTURAL Itinerary by the Council of Europe, but its Christian heritage is undeniably strong.
So, what I'm looking for here isn't help reframing. I get that there are tons of people who walk this for all sorts of reasons with disparate backgrounds and beliefs. What I'm really curious about is what experiences non-Christians (especially Jews) have had actually walking the Camino.
I should mention that the religion of Judaism means very little to me. I'm not fond of any organized religion. Spiritual, but not religious, I guess you might say. But I still feel a little queasy when I find myself surrounded by too much Christianity.
I guess I should also mention before I draw too much negativity in my direction that i'm actually quite fond of Christ. It's just the church that I find somewhat off-putting. (Synagogues too, for that matter).
I asked a friend of mine to join me on my planned pilgrimage in May. His reply after some study was that, while he is very attracted to the idea of pilgrimage, The Camino isn't his pilgrimage. He said that even though he would love the walk and the company, the essential Christian nature of it would require him to be constantly "reframing" everything. By that, I infer that he means translating all the iconography and liturgy into more universal terms that he would find less exclusive. I infer that, because it is exactly the process I have found myself engaged in since I decided to do the walk. I know that it has been designated a CULTURAL Itinerary by the Council of Europe, but its Christian heritage is undeniably strong.
So, what I'm looking for here isn't help reframing. I get that there are tons of people who walk this for all sorts of reasons with disparate backgrounds and beliefs. What I'm really curious about is what experiences non-Christians (especially Jews) have had actually walking the Camino.
I should mention that the religion of Judaism means very little to me. I'm not fond of any organized religion. Spiritual, but not religious, I guess you might say. But I still feel a little queasy when I find myself surrounded by too much Christianity.
I guess I should also mention before I draw too much negativity in my direction that i'm actually quite fond of Christ. It's just the church that I find somewhat off-putting. (Synagogues too, for that matter).
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