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San Xulian has a legend about its eponymous saint. Killed his parents by accident and walked to Rome to ask forgiveness of the Pope as it was told to me.
Oviedo has the Sudarium, the face cloth of Christ after the crucifixion. Some convincing research that it matches the wounds on the Shroud.
If you extend it into France then Rocamadour has its own sword in the stone legend. There's a little village not far from there called Caniac. In the church crypt is the tomb of St Namphaise. According to legend, crawling under the tomb is good for fertility. We were told we'd never have children without IVF treatment, my wife and I crawled under the tomb, a year later she was pregnant naturally. Go figure
Congrats on your child. By the way what´s its name?
Buen Camino!
Not Namphaise
She's called Rowan after the trees that were in berry all around when she was born (they're called mountain ash in other parts of the world but Rowan is the Scottish name for them, means red).
These are the different places where the Graal was, in Spain, after leaving Rome:
1.- Loreto: http://buscandomontsalvatge.blogspot.com.es/2011/12/loreto.html
2.- Huesca: http://buscandomontsalvatge.blogspot.com.es/2011/12/huesca.html
3.- Yebra de Basa: http://buscandomontsalvatge.blogspot.com.es/2011/12/yebra-de-basa.html
4.- Siresa: http://buscandomontsalvatge.blogspot.com.es/2011/12/siresa.html
5.- Sasabe: http://buscandomontsalvatge.blogspot.com.es/2011/12/sasabe.html
6.- Bailo: http://buscandomontsalvatge.blogspot.com.es/2011/12/bailo.html
7.- Jaca: http://buscandomontsalvatge.blogspot.com.es/2011/12/jaca.html
8.- San Juan: http://buscandomontsalvatge.blogspot.com.es/2011/11/san-juan-de-la-pena-vi.html
And afterwards, Valencia, where it is nowadays, in the Cathedral.
One is in Valencia and another is in O Cebreiro. Which one is the real one? Who knows?
Buen Camino!
Valencia.
You can follow it from Rome to Valencia, through the Pirineos and Aragon. Saint Lawrence sent it to his parents, who lived in Loreto (near Huesca), in order to save it, and, in the XV century, it arrived to Valencia. Read the posts.
It is not necessary to explain it. There is "one" in O Cebreiro, and there are others at other places. But there is only one about which you can explain how it arrived there: The Valencian. The others are just legends. About the Valencian, you can establish its route and provide documentation.I have. But it does´t explain why there is one in O Cebreiro.
Buen Camino!
It is not necessary to explain it. There is "one" in O Cebreiro, and there are others at other places. But there is only one about which you can explain how it arrived there: The Valencian. The others are just legends. About the Valencian, you can establish its route and provide documentation.
Tell me more about the Super Chook,please Mendi..............Vicrev
the "holy grail" in O Cebreiro is not supposed to be the same cup and saucer Jesus used at the last supper (I think!). It is the cup and saucer used during a Eucharistic miracle that supposedly occurred there in Cebreiro. (14th century priest peevish about serving in such a backwater was celebrating communion to an empty house during a terrible snowstorm one morning when a villager showed up right at the consecration. The priest chided him for coming all that way for "just a piece of bread and wine..." And the bread and wine turned into actual meat and and blood in his hands! The miraculous cup and paten and the bodies of both priest and villager are part of the side-altar display to this day. )
If you really like these stories, get a copy of Gitlitz and Davidson´s classic "The Pilgrimage Road to Santiago: The Complete Cultural Handbook." More fun stories than you can shake a walking-stick at.
Hmmmm. Sounds like someone's an Indiana Jones fan.What you also must remember is that the real Grail was probably made of either pottery or wood and not gold encrusted with precious stones. Where would the son of a carpenter or poor fishermen have got anything like that. The opulence came later. Sooooooooo back to the drawingboard.
The Wikepedia link also has the history of the Valencia Grail - about half way down the page under 'Later Legend'. This is the same as Rebekah says was at San Juan de la Peña,with other historical notes.Also by legend in Glastonbury (UK) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Grail
and historically in Valencia Cathedral - http://www.travelinginspain.com/valencia/holy_grail.htm
Interesting
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There is a website about the Sudarium, (which I think qualifies for this thread as it is on a Camino route).
Ha Ha! - no. but now its fixed so can get back to this (oh and learning Spanish!!).
Ah, yes, that movie. The character says he's oh so knowledgeable and yet he misses the significance of the time and place of the Last Supper. It's not a poor hovel, nor a cast-off dish. The place belongs to someone who has assets, including a fairly large upper room. (And servants, remember "follow the man carrying a water jar" bit.) And it's the single most important holyday in their whole religion, the feast of the Passover. To assume that the Grail must be some beaten down ugly thing is to misread the context entirely. It will be the nicest set of dinnerware the household has--just think of that relative that entertained a lot and had a special set of Christmastime dishes.Hmmmm. Sounds like someone's an Indiana Jones fan.
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