- Time of past OR future Camino
- Frances 15,16,18
VdlP 23, Invierno 23, Fisterra 23
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Don't have a grim day!!! And, get a good morning cup of coffee at the nearest bar, and keep the economy alive. Have a nice day!watching a stove boil on a grim day
Robo, there are actually less people starting in SJPDP in June than in May. So if you want warm (hot) weather start then. Here are the statistics. http://www.aucoeurduchemin.org/spip/IMG/pdf/stat2013.pdf
As to the brewing equipment, only you can decide if you want to carry the weight. It's never more than about 2 hours to a cafe.
Don't have a grim day!!! And, get a good morning cup of coffee at the nearest bar, and keep the economy alive. Have a nice day!
As a fellow tea lover I must confess to craving my pot of good strong milky sweet tea as I walked...but I learned to contemplate the special views without....
I'm opting for change.... go with what the countryside and local people provide. Lots of cafes along the way and no need to tote along small stoves and other trappings of your past. Throw yourself into this new experience and see what happens.
Thank you Jenny. Not a bad idea! If I swapped one of my water bottles for a thermos of about the same size, I could start off with tea or coffee, then use it as a water bottle in the afternoon.She had her thermos of tea and some GREAT-LOOKING biscuits - she told me she was having an easy day - just stopping wherever she wanted - would I have swapped places with her? Yes! In a heartbeat!
Cheers - Jenny
Hi Robo - as there's the two of you walking, why not take 2 lightweight thermoses that provide two cups in each. You each carry your own thermos. Fill up at each albergue in the mornings. That way you can stop and enjoy your ready-made cuppa when you want and also take advantage of the plethora of bars along The Way for, say lunch, if that's what you'd like to do.
One of my favourite memories of my Camino in 2012 was talking to an Irish pilgrim in the most scenic fairy-dell of a glen on the Frances, out from Sarria. Everyone was trudging past, wanting to get to the next bar for morning tea (and Mother's Cake!) but the Irish pilgrim was sitting happily on a fallen log watching and saying hello to everyone who passed. She had her thermos of tea and some GREAT-LOOKING biscuits - she told me she was having an easy day - just stopping wherever she wanted - would I have swapped places with her? Yes! In a heartbeat!
Cheers - Jenny
For me it's not really about the Tea... (I would probably take Chocolate or Coffee) It's the 'act' of stopping where I want to, to enjoy the view, take a rest, and have the ability to make a hot drink or soup or whatever, whilst enjoying the break. We'll be taking our time. probably 45 days +. So we'll still be stopping at the cafes along the way! But why not take a 'lunch break' when the mood takes rather than have it dictated by the proximity of a café?
Perhaps it's rather like a 'smoke break' for a smoker. I used to be one. Popping out for a cigarette was a 'trigger' to relax and unwind. Stopping to make a drink in a place with a great view, or at a time when one is tired and cold, is more about the emotion of the moment rather than the drink. Not sure if that makes sense...
I might end up throwing in an Ultra Lite kit (100g all up for stove & pot) and see if we use it or not. It can always be ditched or mailed ahead after all...
Have you seen this really light brew-up alcohol stove tip? Weighs about 5 gms I think ... and you can get alcohol in any chemist in Spain, really cheap.
There were several burn areas along the camino. I would guess (but do not know) they were caused by stray cigarettes. Spain is a dry hot place succeptable to forest fires.
Without my morning coffee(s), I suffer. I would never take equipment to make my own brew!
I have had caminos where my days were noted for the number of closed bars and restaurants in the morning.
Great idea Jenny. I'm now on the hunt for an Ultra Lite Thermos
The earlier one leaves, the less likely he is to find one open. By 8 or 9 they'll be open pretty much everywhere along the way.I think for all the very valid advice above I will leave the stove behind. But it does seem like the idea of welcoming cafes every couple of hours, may not be the reality. At least early in the mornings. a number of people have mentioned this.
If you have some time I found http://www.wildearth.com.au/ to be a good site as well - we ordered some gear from this site and they were good at communicating and delivery - like you we went crazy at Kathmandu in Cronulla with a 70% staff discount voucher - pity most of it will be staying in Sydney - but the boots I got there being a Kathmandu branded product are simply great - they are large in teh toe box - and I then added my orthodics from my runners and my feet are thanking me - carry only what you need - one trick I found at Anaconda was to find what I wanted - looked it up on the internet while in store - showed the cashier and they reduced their price to match the price I found - saved me over $125 on a black wolf back pack - remember The Way provides - we actually purchased some really small sleeping bags from Wild Earth but I can't find them on the web site any more they were a emergency sleeping bag - 200gr - we also bought some silk liner from spotlight that we hemmed and soaked in deet to put under our sleeping bags - keeps the bed bugs away - if any - weight is everything so weigh weigh and then weigh again.
Jen you coming on the 7th May as we leave the following Monday
Robo - Larry's talking about the next Pilgrims in Sydney meeting. Check out the website of the same name for meeting dates and the venue.
Cheers Robo - it would be great to see you both there if you can make it.We have the date in the diary Jen, Thanks. Though weekdays can be tough with work commitments.
I think for all the very valid advice above I will leave the stove behind. But it does seem like the idea of welcoming cafes every couple of hours, may not be the reality. At least early in the mornings. a number of people have mentioned this.
Please make sure to use the right fuel for the right stove. White gas (or similar) is NOT safe in the alcohol stove. White gas is only suitable for their pressurized stoves, and those are far heavier systems than the traditional "spirit" (alcohol) stove. In the PDF, all but the rightmost column are for pressurized gas stoves, whereas the rightmost column is the alcohol "spirit" stove. See http://www.trangia.se/english/2917.trangia_accessories.html for a picture of the gas/multi-fuel burners. The alcohol stove is visible there as well, but only as part of a larger system. For a better view of the alcohol stove itself, see http://www.trangia.se/english/2934.the_trangia_principle.html.If you do decide to take one ... trangia makes a very light reliable stove and alcohol (you need to know the local name its sold under) is widely available. Carry metal cups to brew up with and for use in albergues where there are none. Boiling two cups of water takes about 20 minutes.
Fuel names
http://www.trangia.se/core/files/names_of_fuel_130128.pdf
I like MSR windpro if you decide on Isopro fuel.
White gas is not available in Spain. Solvente Industriale works but its not consistent fuel.
As to the topic of pop can stoves, I love alcohol stoves, but I've also seen them blow up and spill out burning alcohol, especially those that work most efficiently by building pressure in the stove to create strong jets. Just this last summer, we had a substantial forest fire in the area I live as a result of a failed DIY pop can stove. Having said that, they are the ultimate in light stoves when created well and operated properly.
Hmmmmm.
For the sake of a tiny stove, lightweight pot, lighter and some gas I think its worth it. But maybe that's just me, having hiked some serious hikes in NZ, Canada and the USA.
Ability to make soup, coffee, tea, noodles,
Hmmmmm.
For the sake of a tiny stove, lightweight pot, lighter and some gas I think its worth it. But maybe that's just me, having hiked some serious hikes in NZ, Canada and the USA.
Ability to make soup, coffee, tea, noodles,
Right you are! In fact, don't complicate your Camino: Spain is a wine country: skip the tea for a while and enjoy a fine Rioja.[...] I think I have been convinced not to take one for all the reasons outlined in the thread above.
true.Yes, but this is not a serious hike! For many of us (chez moi) it's a wander from bar to bar, rarely more than 8km apart. Just have your first cuppa before leaving the albergue, by 10 or 11am you'll be ready for a stop and an open bar or cafe will appear...
that is important, I know.I like helping the local economy.
Yes, of course. No criticism intended. I've got choices and have been very blessed.that is important, I know.
however, some people are on a budget.
Ah yeah, no bother. You probably haven't been travelling (and spending a fortune) for the past 12 months!Yes, of course. No criticism intended. I've got choices and have been very blessed.
I always carry a Thermos flask of hot water, enough for at least half a day. In addition I always use the light weight metal drinking containers. Last thing at night fill them with boiling water for hot water bottle and first thing in the morning you have sterilised water - really useful tip if you are camping!
My wife and I plan to walk our first Camino on the CF in May / June 2015. I've been trying to weigh up the best time for us to go. We don't want to freeze, and would prefer to avoid the large crowds, so starting out in late April or early May seems a good option at the moment.
My question relates to having the 'gear' to make a 'Brew' en route.
I am an old hiker from times gone by, in my Military days. Which were about 30 years and 30 KGs ago! Most of my hiking was done in the more remote areas of the UK, far away from shops. I always recall that on a cold and wet day, the best thing in the World was to stop and make a 'Brew'. (Hot, sweet Tea or Coffee). The effect was always physically and emotionally so warming.
OK, I realise that on the CF we are never that far from a village and a café. But are there sections where having a 'Brew Kit' might be nice to have? As a 'pick me up' on the longer sections for example?
If you have read any of my other posts, you will know that I will be walking with my wife, who has never done anything this challenging before, and who also comes from Thailand. So for her, 18 degrees C is starting to get into the realms of extreme cold. LOL
We live in Australia. I took her to the Snow fields once for a day trip just to experience Snow for the first time. It was hilarious! She couldn't believe how cold it was...
So keeping her warm and dry will be a major factor in our enjoyment of the experience. Being English, I'm designed for the wet and cold...
I have found an ultra lite cooking set that weighs about 160 grams. Meths stove, pot and windshield.
As well as making a hot drink 'on the road' we can also use it to boil rice. 'Emergency rations' or 'comfort food' for my wife if required LOL. I've decided against the Rice Cooker.... http://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/youre-going-to-take-a-what.21824/
I'd value any thoughts from the more experienced CF Pilgrims. Is taking a 'Brew Kit' worthwhile? Are there times on a cold, wet, windy day, you would have given anything to make a quick Brew?
Or is it really just a case of 'head down' to the next village?
My wife and I plan to walk our first Camino on the CF in May / June 2015. I've been trying to weigh up the best time for us to go. We don't want to freeze, and would prefer to avoid the large crowds, so starting out in late April or early May seems a good option at the moment.
My question relates to having the 'gear' to make a 'Brew' en route.
I am an old hiker from times gone by, in my Military days. Which were about 30 years and 30 KGs ago! Most of my hiking was done in the more remote areas of the UK, far away from shops. I always recall that on a cold and wet day, the best thing in the World was to stop and make a 'Brew'. (Hot, sweet Tea or Coffee). The effect was always physically and emotionally so warming.
OK, I realise that on the CF we are never that far from a village and a café. But are there sections where having a 'Brew Kit' might be nice to have? As a 'pick me up' on the longer sections for example?
If you have read any of my other posts, you will know that I will be walking with my wife, who has never done anything this challenging before, and who also comes from Thailand. So for her, 18 degrees C is starting to get into the realms of extreme cold. LOL
We live in Australia. I took her to the Snow fields once for a day trip just to experience Snow for the first time. It was hilarious! She couldn't believe how cold it was...
So keeping her warm and dry will be a major factor in our enjoyment of the experience. Being English, I'm designed for the wet and cold...
I have found an ultra lite cooking set that weighs about 160 grams. Meths stove, pot and windshield.
As well as making a hot drink 'on the road' we can also use it to boil rice. 'Emergency rations' or 'comfort food' for my wife if required LOL. I've decided against the Rice Cooker.... http://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/youre-going-to-take-a-what.21824/
I'd value any thoughts from the more experienced CF Pilgrims. Is taking a 'Brew Kit' worthwhile? Are there times on a cold, wet, windy day, you would have given anything to make a quick Brew?
Or is it really just a case of 'head down' to the next village?
Have you seen this really light brew-up alcohol stove tip? Weighs about 5 gms I think ... and you can get alcohol in any chemist in Spain, really cheap.
Just take a few of your favourite tea bags so you can have one that really 'hits the mark' at optimal moments, such as before starting in the morning etc.
I know where Robo is coming from, there is nothing quite like making a brew just when you need it!
As a fellow tea lover I must confess to craving my pot of good strong milky sweet tea as I walked...but I learned to contemplate the special views without....also really enjoyed the varied approach to tea making at the cafés along the way...always a surprise cuppa, not always as I make it, but still warming & soothing...the coffee was my serious motivator in the morning...
I probably wouldn't take a brew kit on the Frances...but am considering it for the Primitivo....providing I can find a sheltered enough spot to light up!!
Would always stop and buy a cuppa in each village to support the economy, have a natter if in the mood & just to stop & take it all in....good contemplation time...( I am an avid people watcher!!)
Interesting thread this has turned out to be. But as many have realised ... it was never about the Tea, or the cost of the Tea/coffee, or supporting the local economy, or xxx. It was about the freedom and comfort from being able to make a tea/coffee/choc just when you most needed it.... Or when you wanted to just sit back, boots off for an hour and take in the view, and there is no café for miles.
Certainly taking a 1 litre 'tupperware'-style box for leftovers, deli foods.
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