Mark McCarthy
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- Time of past OR future Camino
- CF 2014 2015
Lourdes 2 SdC 2016
Sarria 2 SdC April&Oct 2016 & (April 2018)
Camino Baztan June 2017
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What was it that didn't worked so well?I have used MAPS.ME which worked well on the CF but not as well on the CP.
Maps.me can definitely show the KML tracks.Thus I need an app which could show me a GPS track, much like http://www.locusmap.eu/ . I'm not sure MAPS.ME can do that.
I think that the CF is well mapped in Openstreetmap as a international walk way and therefore when working out the best route by foot MAPS.ME by default route you along the CF. I suspect the CP is not similarly mapped in Openstreetmap.What was it that didn't worked so well?
Maps.me can definitely show the KML tracks.
I don't understand what happens in the background, but I have found KML files (e.g. on wikiloc.com) for the entire Almeria-Merida camino Mozarabe, as well as a number of variations from there. I would be very surprised not to find the CP at least as well documented. Maybe (?) if you are trying to create your own new route in advance, it is more complicated.I think that the CF is well mapped in Openstreetmap as a international walk way and therefore when working out the best route by foot MAPS.ME by default route you along the CF. I suspect the CP is not similarly mapped in Openstreetmap.
I am just installing OSMand to see what it is like.Mark, like I wrote earlier I want to do a comparison of OSMand and Maps.me (and I suppose I should throw in Google Maps too.) I decided to download Navarra into Maps.me (I already had that for OSMand) for a quickie compare with the three apps using Zabaldika as a target to show. Based on this it looks like Maps.me will come out the winner in a good test. Sorry but I don't want to do a writeup right now but I liked Maps.me for a number of reasons. I wish it had that Wikipedia database that OSMand has though.
The Dutch Pilgrim Society has a lot of these files for free download.
A smartphone can insert GPS location information into pictures so you can later determine the location where the picture was taken. It takes awhile for the smartphone to get the location from satelites and this makes it a nuisance to turn the GPS feature on and then off for each photo. So if you leave the GPS feature always on you may as well run the map application too. If you use GPS bring a spare battery.OK maybe if you are after seeking out off route antiquities/churches/points of interest etc then you might need it.
I love this feature, it means you look back via Google Maps to exactly where you took a photo.A smartphone can insert GPS location information into pictures so you can later determine the location where the picture was taken. It takes awhile for the smartphone to get the location from satelites and this makes it a nuisance to turn the GPS feature on and then off for each photo. So if you leave the GPS feature always on you may as well run the map application too. Bring a spare battery.
And often you can use Street View to look again at the surroundings.I love this feature, it means you look back via Google Maps to exactly where you took a photo.
I guess I should really be on the Primitivo since I didn’t use any of them, just a silly little thing I grabbed in Saint Jean to sort of look at distances.My last few Caminos I have used MAPS.ME which worked well on the CF but not as well on the CP. I noticed a few other people using MAPS.ME rather than Google Maps. I was wondering what are people's thoughts are on MAPS.ME versus Google Maps and does anyone use other apps? I use MAPS.ME to estimate distances and to find facilities when in towns.
... does anyone use other apps? I use MAPS.ME to estimate distances and to find facilities when in towns.
Be careful that you have up to date tracks. The Dutch site has routes dated 13 March 2018. Significant changes were made to the Camino Ingles in April/May: before and after Pontedeume; after Mino; before Betanzos; before Sigueiro; most of the route from Sigueiro to SdC.For those unfamiliar with the site of the Dutch Pilgrim Society (Nederlands Genootschap van Sint Jacob), click here. Google translate is in the top left corner.
Windy Maps has all the major Camino routes on it.
If you click on my link you should get links to the Apple App Store and Google Play, but if not here's the Google link+1 for Windy Maps
Link to app in Apple App Store (apologies to users on other platforms):
Windy Maps
Windy Maps will guide you around the whole world. You can search for a route, plan a trip and arrive to your destination thanks to the voice navigation. Windy Maps works even without an internet connection. Just download a map of your country or a region to your phone. An inseparable part of...apps.apple.com
What do you mean that Google Maps doesn't have GPS?Eventually, I discovered that google maps could be very useful because of the many services which it helped me find in the towns, although it does not have gps.
I use, maps.me and the downloaded maps from the Valencian pilgrim office to find my route and my current location, on the Levante, and also the Dutch confraternity maps on other pilgrim routes. I did not see any routes marked while using google maps. Maybe I missed something, but I think of gps as being available when I can see routes on maps, and I did not find that function on google maps. I think that there is more than one version of google maps, but the only one that I am familiar with will show me places, but not in the route finding method that I am used to. This is part of what I mean when I say that I can use various maps for different purposes, and teach myself as I go along.What do you mean that Google Maps doesn't have GPS?
The little blue dot on the map - whether Google or maps.me - is the indicator of your GPS location. It moves when you do. What you call a "route" (aka "track") is a line made up by connecting a collection of GPS location points. When you upload a track to your phone, maps.me shows that collection of GPS points as a line. Google maps does not have this feature. Google maps has a better database of business information, which is why you sometimes want to use it.I think of gps as being available when I can see routes on maps, and I did not find that function on google maps.
I tried "Windy" a while ago but find it "buries" tracks under roads or is it just that I haven't set it up right?If you click on my link you should get links to the Apple App Store and Google Play, but if not here's the Google link
Windy Maps - Apps on Google Play
The most detailed hiking maps of the world that work even offlineplay.google.com
The only issue I have with Windy Maps is that I don't seem to be able to download new GPS tracks to it. Maybe someone else knows how?
Thanks, @C clearlyThe little blue dot on the map - whether Google or maps.me - is the indicator of your GPS location. It moves when you do. What you call a "route" (aka "track") is a line made up by connecting a collection of GPS location points. When you upload a track to your phone, maps.me shows that collection of GPS points as a line. Google maps does not have this feature. Google maps has a better database of business information, which is why you sometimes want to use it.
Edited to add: You can see your GPS location as a blue dot on Google maps, and see what street you are on. You just don't see where you want to go!
May I just say a "route" is where you plan to go while a "track" is a record of where you've already been.The little blue dot on the map - whether Google or maps.me - is the indicator of your GPS location. It moves when you do. What you call a "route" (aka "track") is a line made up by connecting a collection of GPS location points. When you upload a track to your phone, maps.me shows that collection of GPS points as a line. Google maps does not have this feature. Google maps has a better database of business information, which is why you sometimes want to use it.
Edited to add: You can see your GPS location as a blue dot on Google maps, and see what street you are on. You just don't see where you want to go!
You really need to zoom in to see the trails.I tried "Windy" a while ago but find it "buries" tracks under roads or is it just that I haven't set it up right?
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Found it easy to upload an existing .KML or .GPX file in Windows but couldn't see how to transfer it to my Android devices or to upload to them either.
Shame it seems like a good app, just can't muddle my way through it.
You can use the My Maps functionality to upload GPS tracks to Google Maps. For example, here is a Google Maps map with tracks for many caminos in Spain: https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?...&ll=39.05614635400748,-3.0533069999999984&z=5The little blue dot on the map - whether Google or maps.me - is the indicator of your GPS location. It moves when you do. What you call a "route" (aka "track") is a line made up by connecting a collection of GPS location points. When you upload a track to your phone, maps.me shows that collection of GPS points as a line. Google maps does not have this feature. Google maps has a better database of business information, which is why you sometimes want to use it.
Edited to add: You can see your GPS location as a blue dot on Google maps, and see what street you are on. You just don't see where you want to go!
Me too un till they completely redesigned the Android version.I've had great luck with the Buen Camino app
The map feature is back to normal. I use an Android - Samsung and looking at the Norte just now and it's back.Me too un till they completely redesigned the Android version.
I was able to reinstall the old version, and have turned off updates, so I haven't looked at the new version lately.The map feature is back to normal. I use an Android - Samsung and looking at the Norte just now and it's back.
Hello, I think I have the new version but I may have done what you did, can't remember. Pretty sure they did the work to bring it back to at least what it used to be, maybe betterI was able to reinstall the old version, and have turned off updates, so I haven't looked at the new version lately.
I just checked out the Buen Camino app on the Google Play and they have reinstated the old (good) version!Hello, I think I have the new version but I may have done what you did, can't remember. Pretty sure they did the work to bring it back to at least what it used to be, maybe better
Wow, they've really used their game.Here's the list of routes on the Buen Camino app
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They are not built into Maps.me. You need to download the files and install them I the app.Can anyone offer any Maps.me hints to display the caminos?
It does.Perhaps the free version (OsmAnd, no +) also permits that.
Thanks for that @trecile I suppose we all hope for these apps to be the Swiss Army Knife of mapping when all we need is to cut a piece of string!You really need to zoom in to see the trails.
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I also found that I could upload KML and GPX files to the Windy website, and it is disappointing that there's no way to transfer it to the app. I'll stick with Maps.me for that I guess.
Look at the top of this page, there is a manual also in English, how to put tracks in maps.me. On that downloadpage you can also find all the downloads you need:Displaying caminos and long-distance walking trails in mapping apps:
I have been comparing Maps.me with OsmAnd+, the app I normally use.
OsmAnd shows all of the caminos and long-distance trails that I think I would ever be interested in.
In the Maps.me map of Spain, I do not see any of the caminos or long-distance hiking trails, and I cannot find a Maps.me setting to enable that.
Can anyone offer any Maps.me hints to display the caminos?
Thanks.
That is just what I needed, thank you Thomas!Look at the top of this page, there is a manual also in English, how to put tracks in maps.me. On that downloadpage you can also find all the downloads you need:
Downloads - Santiago
Indeling – Per land vind je hier een overzicht van praktische downloads voor onderweg, ingedeeld in onderstaande drie categorieën. Handleiding – Wil je meer weten over hoe u deze bestanden samen met een geschikte app in je smartphone kunt installeren, lees dan deze handleiding in het Nederlands...www.santiago.nl
That is one good source. Another source I found that might be of interest is the Centro Nacional de Información Geográfica (which seems to be affiliated with the Instituto Geografico Nacional of Spain - Ivar has been known to sell their paper map in his store).Look at the top of this page, there is a manual also in English, how to put tracks in maps.me. On that downloadpage you can also find all the downloads you need:
Downloads - Santiago
Indeling – Per land vind je hier een overzicht van praktische downloads voor onderweg, ingedeeld in onderstaande drie categorieën. Handleiding – Wil je meer weten over hoe u deze bestanden samen met een geschikte app in je smartphone kunt installeren, lees dan deze handleiding in het Nederlands...www.santiago.nl
There is an amazing GPS app that, when you use the Directions icon gives you a pulldown to get and display tracks in various categories, including those for the Caminos. If you want them, the app brings you to the site that David mentioned above for you to pick and choose. The app is called Mapas de España. I haven't used it much as it can do everything and so it looks complicated. A PDF manual for basic use runs to 90+ pages in Spanish (although the app can display English). I mention this for die-hard GPS users who want great maps of Spain.That is one good source. Another source I found that might be of interest is the Centro Nacional de Información Geográfica (which seems to be affiliated with the Instituto Geografico Nacional of Spain - Ivar has been known to sell their paper map in his store).
You can download their routes at: http://centrodedescargas.cnig.es/CentroDescargas/loadCamSan.do#
There is an amazing GPS app that, when you use the Directions icon gives you a pulldown to get and display tracks in various categories, including those for the Caminos. If you want them, the app brings you to the site that David mentioned above for you to pick and choose. The app is called Mapas de España. I haven't used it much as it can do everything and so it looks complicated. A PDF manual for basic use runs to 90+ pages in Spanish (although the app can display English). I mention this for die-hard GPS users who want great maps of Spain.
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Yes, thanks - I downloaded the app and am playing around with it a bit. I'm not too keen on the commentary on the Camino (the Pilgrim Guide, including how one "should" prepare, etc.) and I also wonder how up-to-date their "available services" will be. I wish they had stuck with the maps.It is clear that the IGN has invested much effort in this app... It might be worth having a look.
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