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Loved Lise T's post - especially the wearing over the shoulder in the evenings and the loop for shower hanging.
I too don't like the things but this may have changed my mind! HHmm, would add a packet of mints I think - those horses and donkeys we meet, they like them.
Patagonia makes a lightweight travel hip pack which can be worn around the waiste or as a shoulder pack in the evening. It is a very small 1 ltr (they also have a 3 ltr), wieghs almost nothing and you won't even know it is in your sleeping sack at night. I loved mine!!! http://www.patagonia.com/us/product/lightweight-travel-mini-hip-pack?p=49446-0&pcc=1128
Personally I hate "bum bags" (I've heard them called far worse thingsThere's a few good suggestions that I didn't think of, especially separating money, cards etc, so I'll certainly take that onboard.
Regarding the bumbag, you either love them or hate them, bit like Marmite, I have never owned or used one so maybe in my doting years it's something I should try. I do like the fact that when removing your pack you don't have to rummage around for necessities.
Might have to have a complete rethink here.
a word of warning to my fellow oldies! be careful of ALL advice! the wise ones dont tell u of the obvious pitfalls! like one morning,feeling frisky,i broke into a fast shuffle. i wondered why every time i opened my mouth to breathe a howling gale went whistling past where my tonsils used to be! Yes folks! No teeth! appropos of another thread i wondered what s.o.b would run off with a man's dentures! then it dawned on me. they were back there under the pillow where i had left them! ye gods and other expressions passed my lips (now firmly buttoned) and i did not go back for them either! this came about because of many near throttlings from wearing money belts etc at night and using the pillow as a night safe!!! being ex forces i also use my boots to hide things in and yes u smarties i have trodden many a pair of glasses to smithereens! Laff ? i near damn wet meself!Neck pouch for me but hey a bit of common sense! If one wears it dangling then there will alsways be a problem with rubbing and ahh...boobage (something from which I don't suffer). Should be worn crosswise, that is one one shoulder, over the head and under the other arm. Super safe, no rubbing, dangling, boobage, or worry-easily taken into the shower and comfortaly slept with.
Morning all
I've been trying to decide on which one to take that will keep my money, passport and bank cards safe.
With the money belt I'm a little concerned that it might rub once the rucksack is on, although I do see the advantage of having it around the waist during the night.
This also applies to the neck pouch during the day, I'm not sure it would be all that comfortable during the night.
Now to the famous Bum bags, I know they have their uses and a lot of people love them. I can see the advantage but have to say I loath them (maybe loath is too strong a word). Getting what's needed out during the day can be easier and I guess if you're wearing a rucksack, wearing one of these doesn't look out of place.
Here's my thoughts, take a bum bag for the daytime and transfer money, passport, credit cards etc to the money belt for sleeping.
As always I'm happy to have my plans, thoughts, shot to pieces
I have yet to walk the camino, but I have used waist and neck pouches on other trips to Europe. The security of money, passport, credit cards, etc. is an issue, and one I have yet to solve. I didn't really like the waist belt (it felt cumbersome) so I went with the neck pouch, which protruded through my clothes and destroyed any sense of fashion. But I guess fashion isn't a focal point on the camino. It did rub and was sort of hot. Then I heard about a traveler who wore the waist belt and didn't realize it had come undone, slipped down one pant leg, and she found herself dragging it on the ground around one of her feet! For me, the bum bag might be the route to go. I have also considered making a pouch of sorts that I can attach to the bottom of my bra, resting around my midriff. Mark lee has a good suggestion of using the neck pouch through belt loops. One of my problems is that I must wear a dental splint at night due to a jaw problem. It comes in its own hard plastic case. I am as protective of this splint as I am of my money etc. It costs about the price of a full fare flight to Europe. I don't know where to keep it -- maybe a bum belt.Morning all
I've been trying to decide on which one to take that will keep my money, passport and bank cards safe.
With the money belt I'm a little concerned that it might rub once the rucksack is on, although I do see the advantage of having it around the waist during the night.
This also applies to the neck pouch during the day, I'm not sure it would be all that comfortable during the night.
Now to the famous Bum bags, I know they have their uses and a lot of people love them. I can see the advantage but have to say I loath them (maybe loath is too strong a word). Getting what's needed out during the day can be easier and I guess if you're wearing a rucksack, wearing one of these doesn't look out of place.
Here's my thoughts, take a bum bag for the daytime and transfer money, passport, credit cards etc to the money belt for sleeping.
As always I'm happy to have my plans, thoughts, shot to pieces
Here's my thoughts, take a bum bag for the daytime and transfer money, passport, credit cards etc to the money belt for sleeping.
Do you know the name of the bum bag you used? I haven't yet found one that I like enough to settle on, but I think I like the concept.I did find my neck pouch did rub a bit...and moved around....i had it over one shoulder. I think my boobage didn't help with that.
I never ever thought I would say this....but I loved my bum bag!!!
It held:
a little bit of money
Camera
chapstick
Pilgrams passport ( in a small plastic bag)
Normal passport (plastic bag)
Pen/knife
Worthers orginal lollies
Tissues (for toilet stops)
Antiseptic spray
Chocolate
The best thing was when I took my pack off to go into a shop I didnt have to dig around for anything....everything was in the bumbag.
I loved when using a bathroom I didnt have to take it off. So no chance of leaving it behind.
In the evenings I would loosen the waist strap and wear it across my shoulder.
I made a little loop in the centre of mine so it was easy to hang in the showers.
It was comfortable to wear in bed also.
Totally agree with David about taking more than one card and keeping them separate.
as a result of recent cataract operation on right eye i can now see better than when i was a child! patiently waiting for left eye to be done and fingers crossed etc i will now be able to see the holes i fall down! i take it "pants" is americanese for outer garments and not yer drawers? i mean to say old chap, one must have a sense of decorum lest the ladies be offended and yeah man,make with many posts!A blessing of being nearsighted, can't see or do anything without the goggles, all night in my shoe, first thing on in the morning. I might leave the albergue not wearing my pants, but my glasses will be firmly in place!
That looks doable. What's the brand? And what is the other little green thing on your waist, maybe a water bottle?View attachment 18782 This small bumbag worked well for me, but gear testing is the only way to go. As you can see, I have too many cords around my neck to consider a neck pouch.
Is a good question - answer is it is personal choice. All I would say is to have two stashes; passport and card and cash in one, copy of passport and another card and cash in the other, so that if one is stolen or lost - highly unlikely - then you have the other one and aren't stuck. Actually, three! you will need access to small amounts of cash every day, have that handy but separate.
Buen Camino
As I understand it they were originally designed to be worn in back, but pick pocketing made turning them around more feasible.Why is it called a 'bum bag' when it's not worn on the bum?
Thank you. That makes sense.As I understand it they were originally designed to be worn in back, but pick pocketing made turning them around more feasible.
Totally agree with Lise T. I love bum bags.
When walking I keep my bum bag in my backpack, but all other times I wear it round the waist, comfortably and with plenty of space for valuables. It goes everywhere with ease, the shower, the depths of the sleeping bag at night and it is so easy to open and close whilst wearing. Brilliant invention.
I'm considering trying Rick Steve's method next time.
https://www.ricksteves.com/travel-tips/theft-scams/travel-moneybelt
Regds
Gerard
These are great. I use them for normal travel, especially when out of my home country and I've got my passport on me. Again, just watch where it lays in regards to your pack.I'm considering trying Rick Steve's method next time.
https://www.ricksteves.com/travel-tips/theft-scams/travel-moneybelt
Regds
Gerard
First of all, when I think of 'cut offs', I think of jeans that I have cut off to rather short shorts. Doubt that is the case here but I'm a child of the 60's . Secondly, everything after that is confusing. I need GPS to figure out what you are saying. And I did not inhale.Cash in a plastic pouch in a secure pocket in my cut-offs. Transferred to my evening cut-offs when in the shower. Ditto with smartphone. Passport, credential and credit card in plastic in a pouch under my shirt and over one shoulder, and which sits to one side just below my pack’s waist belt when fastened, so still easy to get at when checking in anywhere. I put the pouch and smart phone inside my cut-offs at night, which becomes my pillow, with my microfibre towel laid across. Small amount of daily cash is kept in another, easily accessible pocket.
I also used the "neck pouch".....actually a wallet made of a nylon canvas-type fabric which hangs around one's neck inside your shirt (for security) or can be worn around the neck and over one shoulder (as you have described). That is where I kept my passport, ATM card and general cash. Around my waist I had an elastic belt that held a nylon pouch in which I carried copies of important papers, a Visa card and about $500 in cash; all of these were in a plastic zip-lock bag to keep them free of moisture. This was in case my "neck pouch" was stolen or lost. When in bed, I had both of these on my body or inside the bag. In the shower they were kept in a larger zip-lock bag. Being kind of paranoid, these precautions gave me a sense of security and I never had a problem.Neck pouch for me but hey a bit of common sense! If one wears it dangling then there will alsways be a problem with rubbing and ahh...boobage (something from which I don't suffer). Should be worn crosswise, that is one one shoulder, over the head and under the other arm. Super safe, no rubbing, dangling, boobage, or worry-easily taken into the shower and comfortaly slept with.
Finally, I have a money belt that is made from the same material as a backpack strap and very inconspicuous.
What size is the cross-body bag, november_moon? I'd like to find one large enough for the Pilgrim passport, my iPhone, my passport, and a small money bag, but not a lot more.For men, this should be very easy. Most of your hiking pants and shorts are cargo style with nice big pockets with zippers, velcro, and/or buttons. My husband just carried his valuables in his pockets. Since he doesn't make a habit of wandering around without pants on, he's always got his valuables with him. At night, he rolls up the pants/shorts for the next day and puts them in his sleeping bag. Very easy.
Since my hiking pants aren't as generous with pockets, I have a small cross-body bag that rides in my pack when I am walking and that I carry cross-body when not walking. Also, very easy.
For men, this should be very easy. Most of your hiking pants and shorts are cargo style with nice big pockets with zippers, velcro, and/or buttons. My husband just carried his valuables in his pockets. Since he doesn't make a habit of wandering around without pants on, he's always got his valuables with him. At night, he rolls up the pants/shorts for the next day and puts them in his sleeping bag. Very easy.
Hi Singing heart
Sorry for the delay in replying.
I dont know the brand.it has a unfamiliar logo on it
.....but the thing I liked in my one was the shape.
It was circular.....and sat flat against me. I found some I tested stuck out too much.
In one of the pics attached (outside the Burgos Cathedral). I have it across my shoulder.
I like that it rested easily across.
The other bonus....was it hid my tummy for photos☺
I love the zipped pockets in my hiking pants and keep my passport and credit cards in a plastic bag in the large leg pockets so they stay dry. No bum bag or other stuff to wear or forget. Keep daily money in my other pockets. Regarding the shower, I wear my pants into the shower stall and hang them up on the hook or put them in my plastic shower bag (old very lightweight drawstring plastic bag from a clothing store - holds soap/shampoo/towel/clothes (easy to carry into shower). It also allows me to keep my iPhone and camera with me at all times. I switch the passport over into my clean pants as I get dressed. This way nothing of value is ever left alone in the albergue. I have also used one of those recyclable grocery store bags instead of the plastic drawstring bag - they are like fabric but very light weight. Both take no room or extra weight in your pack and give you a way to "corral" all of your stuff together when in the albergue, can be used for daily shopping at the tienda, and I often carry at night with my journal and other stuff to the bars. Works well for me. Alternatively, there are now some extremely light weight day packs at the sports stores (super thin sturdy nylon material) that could be used for the same purpose.Some really interesting comments here and a lot for me to ponder over.
On my rucksack (Lowe Alpine) I have two pouches on the waist strap, one each side. Lathes these are not a great size they will certainly have a use, for example one will take the iPhone and any cash I need for the day.
As my walking pants have zips on all there pockets I could easily put my cards and share cash in one and passport in the other.
None of this addresses the problem of keeping everything with me when the rucksack is not in use, like showering etc.
I've really got to have a rethink on what's going to work for me. I really value all the comments that I've received, as always not everything works for everyone.
I use something very similar from REI; I think this is it: http://www.rei.com/product/872307/rei-rfid-deluxe-security-neck-walletI found this one's quite good:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Travel-Se...Wallet-Bag-Money-Passport-Pouch-/191214920319
What size is the cross-body bag, november_moon? I'd like to find one large enough for the Pilgrim passport, my iPhone, my passport, and a small money bag, but not a lot more.
Lise T Do you have this one or the smaller Maka 1?Thank you so much Angelo!!!!
I have never heard of them before.....but the quality is very impressive.
I found a link with the bag I took. As you can see its circular at the back which allows it to sit flat. Inside there are some zip compartments...including a long flat one which is perfect for your passports.
http://arcteryx.com/product.aspx?language=EN&model=Maka-2
What bum bag did you have?One nice thing about a bum bag is that it always had my camera at the ready. I either wore it around my waist, letting the pouch rest on the pack belt, or slung it cross-body (over one shoulder). Definitely not a fashion-statement, but who cares on the camino. It held all my valuables, phone, and a snack and was always conveniently in reach. I could drop my pack and walk away without having to remember "where are my valuables?" and no transferring was needed from pocket to pouch and back again when having a shower. Everyone has their own way of doing things, some of our ways are even the same!
As for those who say a bum bag interferes with the waist belt of their pack - well, unless you have a very small pack you're probably either wearing your pack wrong or have the wrong size pack. Most packs have "hip" belts, not "waist" bests, and they should be worn around the top of your iliac crest (hip bones), not resting on top of the hip bones (rub city!), and not around your waist. Your hips are very very strong and this is where the majority of the weight of your pack should be carried. Shoulder straps carry ~10% and are more for balancing the load against your back. It's worthwhile to pop down to your local backpacking store with all your gear in your pack to have someone who knows what they're doing expertly "fit" you and adjust your straps for you. It's amazing how much better a properly fitted pack feels!
For another trip I made a small pouch with a simple snap closure and a ribbon strap just long enough to make a slip-around loop at the center of my bra in front. It rested comfortably against my abdomen, barely visible with loose tops, was more-or-less handy, and felt very secure. It was perfect. For this trip, there seems to be more to have secure, and I will be sweating a lot, so I'm not sure that's the best solution.I have yet to walk the camino, but I have used waist and neck pouches on other trips to Europe. The security of money, passport, credit cards, etc. is an issue, and one I have yet to solve. I didn't really like the waist belt (it felt cumbersome) so I went with the neck pouch, which protruded through my clothes and destroyed any sense of fashion. But I guess fashion isn't a focal point on the camino. It did rub and was sort of hot. Then I heard about a traveler who wore the waist belt and didn't realize it had come undone, slipped down one pant leg, and she found herself dragging it on the ground around one of her feet! For me, the bum bag might be the route to go. I have also considered making a pouch of sorts that I can attach to the bottom of my bra, resting around my midriff. Mark lee has a good suggestion of using the neck pouch through belt loops. One of my problems is that I must wear a dental splint at night due to a jaw problem. It comes in its own hard plastic case. I am as protective of this splint as I am of my money etc. It costs about the price of a full fare flight to Europe. I don't know where to keep it -- maybe a bum belt.
Thanks so much. The Maka 2 looks too large to me, so I'm glad to know that you think yours is the Maka 1. I think I'll order one.I think mine might be the Maka 1.
Its very well designed and could fit in a lot without being bulky.
It came from REI and it is a "Sunday Afternoon" brand. The wide brim in the back is floppy and protects the neck without interfering with the backpack.Cher....i like the hat in your photo. It looks like it has a wide brim at the back.
Can you recall where you got it from?
Lisa, my Maka 1 arrived today late, and I LOVE it!!! It's definitely a keeper. Thank you so much! What fun it is when you find something that is "just right" for you! I've been rooting around for the "perfect" bum bag or cross-body bag or waist pack for ages, something to use to carry the things I'll need throughout a day, and this fits the bill for me. I love its small size, just enough room for what I'll need, its weight, its unique shape. I do believe that these choices are very, very individual, that what suits one won't suit another, but this one is right for me. Thanks!!!You are most welcome. ....let me know what you think. ☺
Morning all
I've been trying to decide on which one to take that will keep my money, passport and bank cards safe.
With the money belt I'm a little concerned that it might rub once the rucksack is on, although I do see the advantage of having it around the waist during the night.
This also applies to the neck pouch during the day, I'm not sure it would be all that comfortable during the night.
Now to the famous Bum bags, I know they have their uses and a lot of people love them. I can see the advantage but have to say I loath them (maybe loath is too strong a word). Getting what's needed out during the day can be easier and I guess if you're wearing a rucksack, wearing one of these doesn't look out of place.
Here's my thoughts, take a bum bag for the daytime and transfer money, passport, credit cards etc to the money belt for sleeping.
As always I'm happy to have my plans, thoughts, shot to pieces
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