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Excellent post - thank you.Hello! I walked in 2018. My primary goal while packing for this journey was to minimize pack weight. I was coming off of a multi-month bike-packing trip, and was not in the best ‘walking shape’ (bike fitness does not equal walking fitness as far as joints are concerned!). The biggest advantage I thought I could give myself was a lightweight pack. I spent a lot of time in preparation really thinking of how to reduce my pack weight. I wanted to be as light as possible, but without buying too much new gear (I tried to use as much of my 'already own it' stuff as possible).
The majority of my previous nomadic experiences were bike packing or backpacking; and for all of those adventures I brought a complete wilderness setup. I had to really break out of my established norms when packing for the Camino, as it is fundamentally different than a wilderness camping experience.
In the end, I had a 3.9kg (~8.6lb) pack. This is inclusive of everything I brought (including my phone, wallet, etc. as I kept those in my pack, not my pockets), but not inclusive of the clothes I wore while hiking (I called these ‘walking clothes’ in my pack list), and any food or water. This weight will fluctuate as you carry more or less food or water, or as you wear more or less layers. The point is to get your base weight as low as possible and add things as needed – not to carry ‘everything you might possibly need even for just one day’ right from the start. If I went again, I think I could reduce it even more, but I was happy with how I did, considering this was all new to me!
Complete pack list located here. Including descriptions of why I brought each item, and how I used (or didn't use it!) on the journey. This turned into a website because when I tried to write out my pack list in response to a question on another forum, it got really long, and became a total 'wall of text' that was really hard to navigate. Hopefully this website format (with pictures!) makes it a little easier to navigate/reference/read. Buen Camino!
(also happy to answer any questions people may have!)
(also, I'm from Canada, so most of this stuff is North American sourced/brands).
Pillows are really, really not required for most people. I thought I mentioned it in the description - I sleep with like 4 pillows at home. The single pillow provided wasn't necessarily going to be sufficient. I also wasn't 100% sure we'd get a pillow every night (though in the end, I did).Impressive....but why inflatable pilows?.. the pen knife will be a problem if flying
Thank you for the insight on Permetherin, it is possible I was misinformed of it's use/purpose.Thank you for sharing your insights and inventory list. I find your gear and clothing inventory to be a useful guide, and the list is reasonable. . . there are no big holes of needed items missing. Very well doneOf course, individual ideas of what is needed and essential will greatly vary, but we seem to be of like mind in that regard.
My gear and closet list for my Caminos is also based around backpacking. In fact, it is the same basic inventory of items that I used thru-hiking the Pacific Crest Trail. . . after tossing out things like food, fuel, cooking mug, tent, air mat, etc.
With my Gossamer Gear Mariposa backpack, base weight is 7.7 pounds. Total pack weight with consumables (water, snacks, gels, etc) of 11.8 pounds.
Preferences and choices always inform ouncesSome differences in my gear or clothing, from what you chose, saved some ounces for me. For instance, 4 ounces saved by choosing a poncho instead of rain jacket. Or using a hydrophobic down-filled vest for an insulating layer rather than the synthetic-fill jacket you use. Your sleep system is 9 ounces heavier because of the extra socks and pillow, which again are simple differences in preferences. I just use my clothing stuff sack as a pillow. I use only one soap for showering and also for doing laundry.
Let me comment on the Permethrin, even though it adds no weight to a load. If used with the idea of keeping bedbugs at bay so one isn't a blood meal, then using it is not necessary, as Permethrin is not a repellent to bedbugs. It does kill them as an insecticide, though. But most bedbugs will still have plenty of time to get their meal, and then crawl away before dying.
The effect means that Permethrin is a good strategy for killing bedbug hitchhikers, especially by spraying the inside of one's backpack.
Thanks for letting me know! Makes me wonder where you are located? It works in Canada (and when I'm logged into a US VPN). I wonder what could be causing an error when you click it? I'll have to dig.Excellent post - thank you.
Have a look at the link from your ‘wrist wallet’ I think that may be an error.
Still - a great resource, thanks again.
The text under ‘wrist wallet’ On ‘my camino pack’ refers to your length of cord. It’s duplicated from elsewhere.Thanks for letting me know! Makes me wonder where you are located? It works in Canada (and when I'm logged into a US VPN). I wonder what could be causing an error when you click it? I'll have to dig.
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Interesting that you mention the poncho over jacket - I use my jacket as both a rain layer and a warmth/wind layer.
Oh! I thought you meant the link wasn't working. Thank you so much for pointing out the error. Fixed it!The text under ‘wrist wallet’ On ‘my camino pack’ refers to your length of cord. It’s duplicated from elsewhere.
You have clearly thought a lot about this! I love how people's thoughts on gear and packing evolves with different experiences =) I was researching minimal/ultralight rain coats (for thru-hiking) but will now be considering a poncho for the reasons you mention. I can heavily relate to the 'don't want to bother putting it on or taking it off' in intermittent weather!A lot of folks prefer a rain jacket for that reason as well. No argument from meI would like to mention alternative thinking here as my consideration on the issue.
I moved away from rain jackets to a poncho for its ability to allow air movement in addition to the ability for water vapor to more readily escape (that last bit depends a lot on how a poncho is configured and worn). It will also serve as a wind shell if I am at rest.
Even when I carried a rain jacket as a weather shell, I always carried a separate windshell to use to shed wind in non-raining conditions. I would not use the rain jacket for that purpose because If I am moving, the rain jacket inhibits the escape of water vapor far too much for my comfort.
The windshell is very breathable, even though it keeps outside wind movement from penetrating. Mine weighs about 2 ounces, so there is not a huge weight penalty. Plus using a poncho means that my backpack is covered from rain, so that mostly offsets the additional weight of the windshell by eliminating the need for a rain cover for the pack.. Plus, I have a ground sheet to sit on, emergency shelter, sun awning for shade, and a number of other things.
But the biggie for me is that it much easier to put on, and take off a poncho. I do not have to stop and remove my pack to put it on. I keep the poncho in a side pocket that I can reach, and if it starts to rain I can grab it and slip it on. Removal is just as easy.
And when the day is filled with off and on rainy periods, being able to quickly put on the poncho allows me to quickly adapt to the weather. When I used a rain jacket, I would balk at wanting to put it on when it started or stopped raining because of the time spend doing so. I would tend to delay doing either, waiting to see if the rain would stop or start.
Anyway, that is what evolved my choice toward the poncho.
A place to attach a trash bag when I am collecting pilgrim debris along the way. Can also be where I put wet, muddy sandals to dry.I'm always fascinated as to why people take carabiners with them.
I take a couple, and always find them useful. For example...I'm always fascinated as to why people take carabiners with them.
I used them for both of these reasons! I also used one to clip my hat to the strap of my backpack if I wanted to take a break from wearing it for a bit and let my head breathe. They are lightweight plastic carabiners as well (not rated for climbing). If you had a different style of pack along, you may not need them. My pack was 'single compartment' so muddy sandals would have made a mess if I could not clip them to the outside. My backpacking pack I have not has a mesh pocket and a few side pouches so things like that, so I wouldn't bring carabiners in that case.A place to attach a trash bag when I am collecting pilgrim debris along the way. Can also be where I put wet, muddy sandals to dry.
Glad to hear it! As I was reviewing it to put it together I was realizing where I could have trimmed even more - but that came from the experience of doing it (no way I could have known everything before going!) I plan to write a page or post that specifically lists 'things from my list that I would not bring if I went again' as right now that info is in there if you read all the descriptions, but is not 'quickly available' on a second read through.Thank you for posting such a thoroughly researched packing list, @spreadsheetdirtbags. This is going to be my new Camino go to packing list.
I loved your comprehensive and well thought out list. I like my two sports bras as I can slip a credit card in through the side holes.
I bring walking shoes, thongs and sandles in case of sore feet and a swop day is needed. I like the blow up pillow idea. Everyones' list has to have the little luxury item . I bring a soft scarf for my pillow which weighs nothing.
Just got my Lisboa cathedral stamp for tomorrow's 2nd attempt this year at the Lisbon/Portuguese camino. This will be my 6th Caminho.....guess I'm also addicted.
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You could try ‘self reporting’ your post to raise the issue with a moderator. The small number who moderate this forum are very responsive and open to a reasoned argument.I'm not sure how to get a post pinned at the top of the 'equipment list' section? I have been reading through a lot of threads on this forum (lurking!), and this post is kind of unique and I think it should be pinned up at the top. I think it's quite different from the 2007 pinned post, and will compliment it well for people looking for overall packing advice! (I've been digging through tons of posts for info =D)
Thanks for the reply! I just got a little excited reading through all the equipment posts (and maybe also a little tired...so much info!) and thought I'd weigh in since I had just done a big overview of the forum content. I don't want to make a fuss, was just trying to contribute where I could. I'll think about it. Thanks again for responding =)You could try ‘self reporting’ your post to raise the issue with a moderator. The small number who moderate this forum are very responsive and open to a reasoned argument.
Thanks for the feedback, this is very kind =)I'm not sure how to get a post pinned at the top of the 'equipment list' section? I have been reading through a lot of threads on this forum (lurking!), and this post is kind of unique and I think it should be pinned up at the top. I think it's quite different from the 2007 pinned post, and will compliment it well for people looking for overall packing advice! (I've been digging through tons of posts for info =D)
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