Angie94
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Perfect! thanks so much...ry a book called "Camino Lingo" by Reinette Novoa and Sylvia Nielsen (our very own sillydoll). Even if you don't remember them all the book is quite light and small so could even be carried.
I have been attempting to learn some Spanish for the last few months. I am using a couple of different methods (programs) but much of what I am learning will not necessarily apply to what I might need while walking the camino, although I will continue with my studying as I hope to become fluent some day. But for now, I was wondering if I might get a bit of help with some specific phrases that can be used on the camino. And questions that might be asked of me in Spanish, for example I didn't even know what "Que tal?" was until the other day when I was reading a book written by someone who walked the camino, (which means How's it going?) I tried to search through the threads and see if this request has already been asked but couldn't find it if it has. I have picked up a few of the more important ones (from the couple of pages of translations offered in the John Brierley guide book) such as how to make a reservation and where is the bathroom! Thanks in advance...
Language Timothy !De nada chica
well so far this is a lot of what I am running into...Part of the problem with most language courses is that they teach you phrases you're never likely to use.
I was a big fan of Coffee Break. Now at the end of the first course (lessons 1-40), and increasingly frustrated by too much time spent on repetitive and unnecessary explanations and comments in English. It's a good one to start with though, if you want a leisurely pace.Another excellent podcast is called Coffee Break Spanish. You can get it for free on itunes.
I may not be much help because I studied Soanish for years, never reaching fluency. I had to learn Camino vocabulary and got better each day. I ended up by week 2 speaking 85% Spanish.Try Michel Thomas. He has a cd course in Beginners' Spanish and Advanced Spanish. It's really user-friendly and focuses on learning basic rules that you can then apply to lots of situations. . . . really good for learning fast! Available through Amazon. Also available free through the library system in the UK.
Hope this helps.
Mine was the opposite; if I spoke in Spanish, I could not always understand the response; mostly because the response was too rapid for my ability to catch it all. I love the language and hope to keep improving as I go.I purchased a CD program that I listen to whenever I'm driving. Unfortunately, I understand MUCH more than I speak.
Great idea - and keeping it simple. I'll see what I can up with and will PM you. I'm in.Check also out my old thread here https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/multilingual-camino-dictionary.31060/ I haven't worked much lately on this project (shame on me!!!) but there is still already some good material in the referenced Google doc AND you can always add some phrases you want to know/have translated to it and one of us might get around doing it. Buen Camino, SY
It seems there are different parts of the brain primarily involved in speaking and understanding speech, Broca's and Wernicke's areas respectively. Perhaps that at least partly explains why some of us find it easier to speak than understand or vice versa. I even find it more an effort to understand spoken English, my native language, than speak it. Reading and writing are easier for me than speaking or listening, in any language (provided the Roman alphabet is used!).Mine was the opposite; if I spoke in Spanish, I could not always understand the response; mostly because the response was too rapid for my ability to catch it all. I love the language and hope to keep improving as I go.
Great idea - and keeping it simple. I'll see what I can up with and will PM you. I'm in.
That one threw me for a while, too. Especially when repeated three times in rapid succession, "Vale vale vale," all to add emphasis to something the young man was saying. But then, that's why I like to travel the world.It took me a while to figure out that " vale" was a term like ok in English.
Oh!Just don't expect a quick answer, I am in Sevilla at the moment, starting to walk the Via de la Plata tomorrow. SY
I agree that the Pimsleur series is great, but in my case (for French) it was better for learning vocabulary than learning to express myself - depends on what you're after. For my learning style, being in a classroom where there's interaction and feedback works best. Look around your city for a quality private school that gives once-weekly classes at a time that works for you, or check a local college's continuing education program. There are also an internet hook-up sites (and I mean that in the NON sexual sense!) where you can find someone with whom you can practice the language you want to learn via skype or facetime with someone who wants to practice English. I think you'd find learning to express yourself and understand a bit in Spanish would serve you better than just learning a few Camino-specific phrases.I have been attempting to learn some Spanish for the last few months. I am using a couple of different methods (programs) but much of what I am learning will not necessarily apply to what I might need while walking the camino, although I will continue with my studying as I hope to become fluent some day. But for now, I was wondering if I might get a bit of help with some specific phrases that can be used on the camino. And questions that might be asked of me in Spanish, for example I didn't even know what "Que tal?" was until the other day when I was reading a book written by someone who walked the camino, (which means How's it going?) I tried to search through the threads and see if this request has already been asked but couldn't find it if it has. I have picked up a few of the more important ones (from the couple of pages of translations offered in the John Brierley guide book) such as how to make a reservation and where is the bathroom! Thanks in advance...
Thanks for the tips! I have just downloaded Coffee Break Spanish, part 1 is free all others have a fee. I use an app on my iPhone, Google translate. I can put any phrase I want into it and it gives me the Spanish, including sound. I can listen to the whole sentence or break the sentence down into phrases so that I can understand it better. Best thing is that the app also retains the phrases when I am off line. If I need to look up a new phrase tho I do need Internet connection. I am not good at languages but I have learnt a few useful words and phrases and hope it's a good basis for starting my Camino soon. So it works for me.
Tourists are "guiri's"
I've read that "buenas" is more common than "hola
hasta luego - is more common than adios.
Camino Lingo is Marvelous!Try a book called "Camino Lingo" by Reinette Novoa and Sylvia Nielsen (our very own sillydoll). Even if you don't remember them all the book is quite light and small so could even be carried.
Thank you for that Jeff, at my age, I am calling half my English words thingamajigs!! ShannonGood "fillers" while you're thinking of what to say:
a ver = let's see . . .
pues = well (as in "well now . . . ")
entonces = so . . .
and if you can't remember what a thing is called ask for a
cosa = thingamajig
cosita = a little whatsit
Broca's Area is involved in speech, at least in speech processing but is not primarily responsible for it and the same goes for Wernicke's Area and decoding heard language. Language is about the most complex thing the brain does and a lot of parts are involved in it (including cognition, working and long-term memory and emotion). The only thing one can say with any certainty is that the more you do it, the better you get at it: the brain builds stronger neural pathways to eventually develop automaticity. Like you, I struggle to comprehend spoken language, especially not my own. I practise by listening online e.g. RTVE live and podcasts and don't let anyone tell you sub-titles won't help, they do, whether in Spanish or English, particularly if you are more of a visual thinker.It seems there are different parts of the brain primarily involved in speaking and understanding speech, Broca's and Wernicke's areas respectively. Perhaps that at least partly explains why some of us find it easier to speak than understand or vice versa. I even find it more an effort to understand spoken English, my native language, than speak it. Reading and writing are easier for me than speaking or listening, in any language (provided the Roman alphabet is used!).
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