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Thanks for the quick response, @henrythedog Focus of my question is whether others have read of similar reports and *where* this might be taking place. I have asked these questions of the Camigas poster and will report back if I get additional info. My most immediate concern is for the safety of current walkers.This is sexual assault, and needs to be called-out as such.
I’ve most certainly not lived a sheltered life by any stretch of the imagination, but I can only recall one case remotely close to where I’ve lived which stands comparison.
I suppose we are focussed on Camino routes; and there is a considerable mileage to consider, but these reports do come up with disturbing regulatory.
Rhetorically: what the hell is this all about?
Please, please - report any issues such as this (in Spain using the ‘AlertCops’ app) otherwise go the nearest police station, enlisting the help of your accommodation provider or the nearest facility you can find.
Yes, sorry - in UK law such behaviour would clearly be treated as sexual assault. I understand that in Spain (I don’t know about Portugal) it might not. Indeed ‘assault’ in Spain might require a medical report before the police would be involved.Thanks for the quick response, @henrythedog Focus of my question is whether others have read of similar reports and *where* this might be taking place. I have asked these questions of the Camigas poster and will report back if I get additional info. My most immediate concern is for the safety of current walkers.
Other issues you raise: I don’t know if Portuguese law defines this behavior as sexual assault so I am not using that term here, regardless of my own thoughts on this. I understand from popular culture reference to studies of criminal behavior that “peeping Tom” behavior can escalate to “flashing” to physical assault, so this behavior could be on a spectrum that may or may not escalate (I am a researcher by profession but not at all on this topic). Regardless, I know from personal experience and popular reports that an unknown man exposing his genitals non consensually to a woman (or child, which is, by definition non-consensual, or other person, regardless of gender) can feel extremely threatening and can cause lingering psycho-social effects.
Reporting: I asked the posters on Camigas, gently and without judgement, if they had reported and what was the police response. No answer yet.
Update: Location was on the Roman road near ponte de Lima. Sounds like a few different groups or individual women saw this person and reported his description and nearby car license plate to, possibly, the owners of Casa Fernanda to report to police.A post on the Camigas Facebook page mentions a recent encounter with a man wearing a mask who exposed his genitals to a female pilgrim somewhere on the Portugues. It must be before Corgo (because the poster mentions meeting another, second, female pilgrim at casa fernanda who also recently encountered a person matching the description).
Does anyone on the forum have additional information?
This guy wasn't the brightest bulb was he? How dumb to park his car nearby.Sounds like a few different groups or individual women saw this person and reported his description and nearby car license plate
I don’t know if the car was his. I’m just trying to share info from the post on Camigas Facebook. Another poster on that site mentioned a young Portuguese guy who seemed to be walking and who made comments that seemed odd to the poster. It’s not clear to me that the car had anything to do with the man who the reporter said exposed his genitals while approaching her while wearing a mask.This guy wasn't the brightest bulb was he? How dumb to park his car nearby.
I think you live in Portugal, right? Do you know the answer?There seem to be frequent reports of flashers etc. on the Camino in Portugal. But I only read posts suggesting reporting to authorities in Spain. In Portugal there is the European emergency number 112. I wonder if there’s an app like Alert Cops or a comparable Portuguese civil guardia?
Also from the UK and fully concur with this although I don’t know how it is seen from a criminal standpoint either. I would like to see society stop using the word ‘flasher’ as it almost trivialises it. Certainly thinking back to lates 70s/80s UK sitcoms ‘flasher’ were often depicted (almost romanticised!!!!) as harmless, nerdy old men, with a bald head and a cheeky smile, and I am not sure we have moved on far enough. Irrespective of whether they go on to commit other sexual crimes I would love to see the full force of the law come down hard.This is sexual assault, and needs to be called-out as such.
I’ve most certainly not lived a sheltered life by any stretch of the imagination, but I can only recall one case remotely close to where I’ve lived which stands comparison.
I suppose we are focussed on Camino routes; and there is a considerable mileage to consider, but these reports do come up with disturbing regulatory.
Rhetorically: what the hell is this all about?
Please, please - report any issues such as this (in Spain using the ‘AlertCops’ app) otherwise go the nearest police station, enlisting the help of your accommodation provider or the nearest facility you can find.
I do live in Portugal but don’t know the answer, sorry.
Here is a lot of information: https://www.safecommunitiesportugal.com/find-information/police-in-portugal/There seem to be frequent reports of flashers etc. on the Camino in Portugal. But I only read posts suggesting reporting to authorities in Spain. In Portugal there is the European emergency number 112. I wonder if there’s an app like Alert Cops or a comparable Portuguese civil guardia?
Thanks. Perhaps the forum should make clear to pilgrims on the Camino Portuguese who they contact in case of emergency and danger. I think it is different depending on whether you are in Portugual or in Spain.Here is a lot of information: https://www.safecommunitiesportugal.com/find-information/police-in-portugal/
The answer is, yes, there is a Portuguese equivalent of the Guardia Civil, the Guarda Nacional Republicana (GNR) who seem to have a similar range of duties and cover the whole country with the exception of major cities
The number to call in both Spain and Portugal is 112.Thanks. Perhaps the forum should make clear to pilgrims on the Camino Portuguese who they contact in case of emergency and danger. I think it is different depending on whether you are in Portugual or in Spain.
I've edited my previous post with another link that may help.Thanks. Perhaps the forum should make clear to pilgrims on the Camino Portuguese who they contact in case of emergency and danger. I think it is different depending on whether you are in Portugual or in Spain.
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