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Thank you for this information. At the moment, when travelling from just about anywhere to Canada, including Spain, Canadians need to be tested and show proof of a negative Covid-19 test in order to be admitted back into Canada. I already knew that I would have to provide a 72 hour negative PCR test when arriving back in Canada, although I shall be fully vaccinated. And getting such a test in Santiago before heading for the Madrid airport will be much simpler than trying to find somewhere in Barcelona to get the test, as would have been necessary with my previous flight bookings. But in any case, this may change at any point in time between now and my flight back to Canada on Nov. 29.When travelling from Spain to Frankfurt and then to Canada, you need to be tested and show proof of a negative Covid-19 test before departure.
I just read this on USA Today news networkThe next challenge to my travel arrangements was totally unexpected. Late this morning, Air Canada cancelled all my reservations, blaming unidentified official compulsion. The new reservations which they sent me did not work for me. There was no available booking that did not necessitate at least one transfer in Europe, outside Spanish territory. Finally, I managed to contact an Air Canada reservations worker, who listened to what I wanted, and gave me most of it, at no additional cost. So now I am flying to Valencia, with one stop in London Heathrow, and home to Calgary from Madrid, with one stop in Frankfurt. No travel through or to Barcelona. I have decided to accept landing in countries which might have unknown versions of pandemic regulations. But I feel confident to manage whatever comes and relieved that expensive and challenging quarantine regulations seem to be lessening. Maybe testing requirements will fade away too. It will be good to be able to focus on walking my camino.
Yes, that's exactly what the Spanish government bulletins, and the US Embassy has stated.I just read this on USA Today news network
‘Americans and many other non-EU nationalities cannot come to Spain for tourism for now.’ So I think you have to have a ‘compelling’ reason if you are not vaccinated.
Karenfromcali,This is a question I’m trying to answer too. I want to fly to the UK first to see family but things are kind of up in the air there right now with the Indian variant. Debating whether to do Camino first then go home to the UK.
Thanks, Jabbapappa, this helps my little brain understand things a bit more--my hang up had been definitions (I am coming from US and after a visit to UK would go to Spain, so do they mean in their regulations me as 'American' or me as having been in UK for for several weeks), which you have helped answer.You'll need the forms to travel from the UK in those circumstances, i.e. you'll have stayed in that country for 2-3 weeks -- but no proof of vaccination is currently required of travellers from the UK to Spain, by exemption from the norm.
By contrast, if you travel from US to UK, stay for 2-3 days, and then travel to Spain, you will need such proof, as you would not in that case be considered as travelling from the UK, but from the US. Only after a long enough stay in a country (can't remember/don't know if that's 10 or 14 days) are you considered for these particular purposes as travelling "from" that country if you then go to another.
The only real exception to these complicated rules is if, having travelled to a country in the EU, you then travel across a land border with another country by land travel (not air or sea), where no particular measures have been implemented for such travel. In that case, then you will only need the papers and stuff to enter the first country, but not the other.
OMG, Albertagirl, what is unidentified official compulsion? I want that embroidered on my pillow.The next challenge to my travel arrangements was totally unexpected. Late this morning, Air Canada cancelled all my reservations, blaming unidentified official compulsion. The new reservations which they sent me did not work for me. There was no available booking that did not necessitate at least one transfer in Europe, outside Spanish territory. Finally, I managed to contact an Air Canada reservations worker, who listened to what I wanted, and gave me most of it, at no additional cost. So now I am flying to Valencia, with one stop in London Heathrow, and home to Calgary from Madrid, with one stop in Frankfurt. No travel through or to Barcelona. I have decided to accept landing in countries which might have unknown versions of pandemic regulations. But I feel confident to manage whatever comes and relieved that expensive and challenging quarantine regulations seem to be lessening. Maybe testing requirements will fade away too. It will be good to be able to focus on walking my camino.
So disappointed to hear, UK just announced they are staying closed until approx July 19th. So you are right, I think Camino first is the right, and maybe only way to go right now. My brother is in Wales and I had really hoped to see him. Will see how things look at a later date. Thank you for your reply! Blessings.Karenfromcali,
I am getting mixed messages but what I think is correct at the moment is UK is still requiring quarantining unless one is coming from certain 'green' countries. Friends who work ambulance services say things have been quite bad in Wales. Scotland of course has its own regulations.
Something is telling me do the pilgrimage first and then see what the policy is for UK. Of course things seem to be changing second by second and there are many entries added over the week that may be more helpful.
The "vaxx passport" is somewhat misnomered, as it covers :So if we are NOT vaccinated we are not allowed in?
The main "specific requirement" where the above is not true, is if the US citizen is travelling not from the US but from a EU or Schengen travel area country.In case there's any confusion regarding Americans traveling to Spain, this still stands:
* Unvaccinated U.S. citizens are still not permitted to enter Spain unless they meet very specific requirements or have already obtained special permission from the Government of Spain. Please check the Spanish regulations carefully before attempting to travel. *
This is interesting -- my own motivation is an obsession with truth, which can sometimes transcend or sidestep information. Sometimes via intuition ; other times via meta-analyses.I enjoy researching and sharing accurate reliable information.
The drop down menu in the SpTH app (mobile or web) has been modified. It now shows the following list of vaccines that vaccinated travellers use to pick the vaccine they had received when applying for the SpTH QR code:the chosen label BioNTech Manufacturing GmbH surprised me. Many people will not know that Pfizer and BioNTech denotes the same vaccine.
Non-EU citizens who do not live in the EU and did not get vaccinated in the EU cannot obtain an EU Digital COVID Certificat as proof of their vaccination, which is, btw, the proper and official name - see partial photo of my own certificate below. The only exception are citizens/residents of Iceland, Norway, Lichtenstein and Switzerland. Claiming otherwise will cause confusion and invite questions of "How can I get this" by non-EU people who cannot get it. USA citizens (topic of this thread) will carry their CDC cards as proof of their vaccination while in the EU.The "vaxx passports" do however concern internal travel in the EU by non-EU citizens, so for example someone travelling from France to Spain on a Camino.
I fail to see how a specifically EU initiative for EU citizens would be illegal. And what's with calling it a "vaxx passport"? It is not that but a EU Digital COVID Certificate. That's all.the discrimination by nationality that you suggest for obtaining the "vaxx passport" would be blatantly illegal in France
The only exception are citizens/residents of Iceland, Norway, Lichtenstein and Switzerland. Claiming otherwise will cause confusion and invite questions of "How can I get this" by non-EU people who cannot get it. USA citizens (topic of this thread) will carry their CDC cards as proof of their vaccination while in the EU.
Just to add: there's a lot of speculation about which options will be available in the future. I stick to what is available at present, especially as regards information for visitors from abroad who are less familiar with current situations in EU countries.with a source citation higher up in the thread
To provide advantages to travel plus events access to these nationalities but not those would be directly contrary to the Equality principles of the French Constitution.I fail to see how a specifically EU initiative for EU citizens would be illegal.
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