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Outerwear is my last remaining dilemma before I start walking on September 7. I expect to finish around October 20. It's the variation in temperatures that's confusing me. I tend to run cold but sweat a lot and will quickly shed layers. I'm taking one short and two long sleeve, ultra lightweight SPF shirts. Here are my choices: ultra lightweight down jacket; ultra lightweight down vest; long sleeve technical fleece with hood; long sleeve pullover fleece, short zipper. I'm willing to take 2 of them if necessary. I know everyone has their own opinion but I'm really torn here! Any advice is appreciated. Thanks.
Outerwear is my last remaining dilemma before I start walking on September 7. I expect to finish around October 20. It's the variation in temperatures that's confusing me. I tend to run cold but sweat a lot and will quickly shed layers. I'm taking one short and two long sleeve, ultra lightweight SPF shirts. Here are my choices: ultra lightweight down jacket; ultra lightweight down vest; long sleeve technical fleece with hood; long sleeve pullover fleece, short zipper. I'm willing to take 2 of them if necessary. I know everyone has their own opinion but I'm really torn here! Any advice is appreciated. Thanks.
Here are my choices:
- ultra lightweight down jacket;
- ultra lightweight down vest;
- long sleeve technical fleece with hood;
- long sleeve pullover fleece, short zipper.
Thanks, and let me clarify. I'm going by the terms used in the book, "Walk Far Carry Less" and I should have said "insulating layer" rather than outerwear. I have: baselayer: Patagonia long underwear. Mid layer: 1 pair REI convertible Sahara pants, 1 pair yoga pants, 3 pairs socks, 2 lightweight long sleeve (SPF 50+) and 1 lightweight short sleeve shirt (Patagonia capilene). I have a hooded, vented North Face rain jacket, a sun hat, and a fleece beanie. It's the insulating layer I'm having trouble with.Your title says "Outer wear" but I'm not sure that your choices correspond well. I love my down vest and always take it for evenings and chilly nights. I have never worn it walking, even though I like to dress warmly.
I understand from your post that you are looking for something in addition to your "one short and two long sleeve" shirts. My recommendation would depend very much on your rain wear. Combining a rain jacket with any light layer or two (such as your ) will be warm enough for the chilliest walking days. However, if you are planning a poncho for rain, you might want a different choice for clear cold days. Then it gets to personal preference - the hood might be annoying and less versatile than a separate buff or hat; the pullover doesn't have as good temperature control because it can't be fully zipped and unzipped.
Helpful as always, Davebugg!Maybe this will give you an idea of what will work during your time on Camino. Below is a list of my "closet" that I carry in my pack. Besides it being used during the early to late Fall on the Camino last year, it is about the same as what I used to thru hike the Pacific Crest Trail and the Colorado Trail (most of which sits above 9,000 feet / 2743 meters in elevation. And for the thousands of other backpacking miles I have done.
The total weight is around 3.4 pounds.
- Pants -- REI, Classic Sahara Convertible, Zip-Off Legs
- Baselayer Top -- Smartwool 150 long sleeve OR Patagonia Capiline, lightweight long sleeve
- Baselayer Bottom - Smartwool, Lightweight
- Hat - wool beanie
- Windshell Jacket - Patagonia, Houdini
- Insulating Layer -- Mountain Hardwear, Ghost Whisperer Vest
- Socks -- Smartwool Phd, Crew, Light Padding x 2
- Extra insoles x 1
- Poncho ---
Zpacks, Cuben FiberFrogg Toggs Ultralite- Gloves -- North Face, polartec
The clothing that I wear usually consists of running shorts and a long sleeved synthetic and lightweight shirt. All of the clothing can be used in various layering configurations to provide a comfort range from 25F to very hot. This is just an example of how a layering system can be flexible and cover a wide temperature range which is more than sufficient for the time of year you are going over the Pyrenees and Galicia.
Given the other things you are taking, I'd recommend the down vest.It's the insulating layer I'm having trouble with.
I would wear a down jacket, for sure! I wouldn't need it during the daytime because I sweat a lot but once I sat down and cooled off a bit I'd definitely want to bundle up! I also am of a certain age so I really appreciate your comments.I feel the cold, even the cool of the evening. Beta-Blockers and blood thinners add to my bodies inabilities to cope with warm humidity while walking or cool breezes while relaxing in the evening on a terraza or even in some of those old stone buildings where the heating won't get sparked up 'till November.
I would take a down jacket at that time of year. Not for hiking in; I'd probably hike in shorts and a light short-sleeve shirt but I'd want that down jacket handy for whenever I came to rest and I started to cool down. I'd definitely want it for sitting out after the sun has gone down and the mountain breezes are slipping down & across the lowlands. I underlined "I would" because I was talking about me at a certain age with certain health conditions and a certain tolerance to ambient temperature and my own personal comfort levels.
I know nothing about the OP's needs, circumstance or tolerances so I cannot directly answer their question. I guess I could ask @Evvie what they would wear sat out in the wilds where they come from on a night in October & suggest they adjust for climate variance.
Thanks, and let me clarify. I'm going by the terms used in the book, "Walk Far Carry Less" and I should have said "insulating layer" rather than outerwear. I have: baselayer: Patagonia long underwear. Mid layer: 1 pair REI convertible Sahara pants, 1 pair yoga pants, 3 pairs socks, 2 lightweight long sleeve (SPF 50+) and 1 lightweight short sleeve shirt (Patagonia capilene). I have a hooded, vented North Face rain jacket, a sun hat, and a fleece beanie. It's the insulating layer I'm having trouble with.
I appreciate your comments!
I've had skin cancers too and that's the reason I'm taking the long sleeved shirts (they're SPF 50). My REI pants can zip off to shorts. I'm also taking a pair of sun gloves.I have had many skin cancers so took two long sleeved shirts and two pairs long pants wearing one set at a time. I also had long tights, one cotton t-shirt and one polar fleece no sleeve vest and one pair of light weight shorts plus one not expensive raincoat plus a sleeping sheet. I get cold usually but was perfectly fine with this. I also had a hat and normal, foldable umbrella. There are shops along the way to buy extra if you need them
I agree. I don't understand the purpose of half zip fleece.My one suggestion is to use a FULL zipper fleece instead of a pullover fleece.
Maybe this will give you an idea of what will work during your time on Camino. Below is a list of my "closet" that I carry in my pack. Besides it being used during the early to late Fall on the Camino last year, it is about the same as what I used to thru hike the Pacific Crest Trail and the Colorado Trail (most of which sits above 9,000 feet / 2743 meters in elevation. And for the thousands of other backpacking miles I have done.
The total weight is around 3.4 pounds.
- Pants -- REI, Classic Sahara Convertible, Zip-Off Legs
- Baselayer Top -- Smartwool 150 long sleeve OR Patagonia Capiline, lightweight long sleeve
- Baselayer Bottom - Smartwool, Lightweight
- Hat - wool beanie
- Windshell Jacket - Patagonia, Houdini
- Insulating Layer -- Mountain Hardwear, Ghost Whisperer Vest
- Socks -- Smartwool Phd, Crew, Light Padding x 2
- Extra insoles x 1
- Poncho ---
Zpacks, Cuben FiberFrogg Toggs Ultralite- Gloves -- North Face, polartec
The clothing that I wear usually consists of running shorts and a long sleeved synthetic and lightweight shirt. All of the clothing can be used in various layering configurations to provide a comfort range from 25F to very hot. This is just an example of how a layering system can be flexible and cover a wide temperature range which is more than sufficient for the time of year you are going over the Pyrenees and Galicia.
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