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Portugal or Italy for next Camino

Peosta

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances (2010, 2015, 2017)
LePuy - St. Jean (9/18-10/18)
We walked Camino Frances 2x. Walked
Le Puy to SJPP 2018. Which route next? Portugal or Italy ?
 
Camino(s) past & future
CF April 2016 April - Jun
Del Norte, Finesterre 2018 May - Jun
I've done the CF and del Norte. Hoping for the via Francigena next year if my foot heals! The planning of which one to do is so enjoyable.....Happy planning😊
 

Stripey Socks

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances- 2013,Via de la Plata-2014, Portuguese - 2016, Via Francigena - Italy 2018

leicoppes

Member
Camino(s) past & future
camino frances2013 camino primtivo2015 camino portugues2017
During the Camino Primitivo in 2015 I met a couple from Belarus.In2016 they visit me and last year they also visit me,the reason way did they visit me last year was(as they told me)There was allmost not a thing of Pelgrimspirite during their walk to Rome.During the way back Home to Minsk they visites me because Irina &Anatoly wanted to see a pelgrim
 

Peosta

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances (2010, 2015, 2017)
LePuy - St. Jean (9/18-10/18)
During the Camino Primitivo in 2015 I met a couple from Belarus.In2016 they visit me and last year they also visit me,the reason way did they visit me last year was(as they told me)There was allmost not a thing of Pelgrimspirite during their walk to Rome.During the way back Home to Minsk they visites me because Irina &Anatoly wanted to see a pelgrim
Thank you so much for your input!!!
Pilgrim spirit is an important aspect for us also! We have been reading a lot about both walks and couldn’t decide. But I think now the decision is made. We should do Portugal!
Also, we love the Brierly guide and we just received the 2019 edition. We will look forward to walking with him!
Again, thank you so much for relaying those thoughts to us.
 

RumAndChupacabras

Do unto other's as you would have them do unto you
Camino(s) past & future
Jul-Sept 2019 ~Apr. 2018 Oviedo, Santo Toribio, Covadonga~May/June 2016 Portuguese
@Peosta ...
While my first Camino (Portugues) was a REAL EYE OPENER for personal growth...WOW! Was it ever beauuuuuutiful!!!
 

roving_rufus

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances (2013-2015) Camino Portugues from Lisbon (2017-2019) Via Francigena (2018-??)
I am wary of dismissing the pilgrim spirit of Via Francigena but it is a very different type of pilgrim walk compared to Camino Frances or Português which I have done.
While I haven't yet reached as far as Italy yet (I am walking it all in sections) I have encountered "pilgrim spirit" but as there are very few pilgrims it is not the comraderie of the popular Camino routes. But I have encountered generosity, welcome, interest along the route so far. I have had locals be amazed at the craziness of being a pilgrim to Rome. I have been invited to eat or stay at people's homes or given some fruit or snack. I met few other pilgrims but when I did it was cause for celebrating. It shouldn't be compared to the growth that has occured on the major Camino routes which have major infrastructure and many pilgrims.
I have walked the Camino Frances and Portugues in sections and to be honest the "pilgrim spirit" on each has been different. And equally I found a very different "pilgrim spirit" walking on the Camino Frances in January than when I walked in the more main season of the route.

The question may be more about what you think "pilgrim spirit" is.
 

Bradypus

Antediluvian
Camino(s) past & future
Too many and too often!
The question may be more about what you think "pilgrim spirit" is.
Absolutely! Some time back I read a post in which someone said that she felt the less-walked routes were not for her because they lacked "the Camino vibe". By which she seemed to mean large numbers and a large and bustling pilgrim infrastructure. Walking the Via Francigena I was occasionally saddened to hear Camino veterans complain that the VF was "not as good as the Camino" meaning that it was quieter, more expensive and demanded greater effort and planning on the part of the pilgrim. I found no shortage of pilgrim spirit amongst those who chose to make the journey despite those perceived problems and I gained a great deal from their company at points along the way.
PS. My first chance encounter with another pilgrim on the Via Francigena took place in the small parish albergue in Orsieres in the Swiss alps. Three of us there that night. I had started my walk in Canterbury, the others starting from their homes in Belgium and the Netherlands. Just the first of a number of people I met who were making a very deep and serious commitment to a long and physically demanding journey. No shortage of spirit there.
 
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Peosta

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances (2010, 2015, 2017)
LePuy - St. Jean (9/18-10/18)
Thank you to all who have responded to my question. Yes, I understand and agree with what you are saying about definition of pilgrim spirit.
When we started our walk in LePuy, FR, I missed the spirit we felt on the Camino Frances. But I gradually adapted and grew to love the quiet. And, yes, we had lovely experiences with the pilgrims we did get to know.
What guide books did you use for the Via Francegena ?
We walked 6 weeks in FR. We enjoyed that amount of time so are thinking of doing that amount of time again.
I love this discussion and your comments!
Thought provoking as we get ready for our next walk. This is the beauty of the Camino and this blog!
We lost our beloved 38 year old son to cancer one year ago today. Our walks have been so important to us on this journey of healing.
❤🌈🙏
 

Bradypus

Antediluvian
Camino(s) past & future
Too many and too often!
What guide books did you use for the Via Francegena ?
I did not use a guidebook. I made my own route as far as Besancon and joined the official VF route there. Until the Swiss/Italian border I mostly navigated with pages from a road atlas and information from various internet sites. Once in Italy I used maps and accommodation lists downloaded from the official VF website.
 

Stripey Socks

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances- 2013,Via de la Plata-2014, Portuguese - 2016, Via Francigena - Italy 2018
Thank you to all who have responded to my question. Yes, I understand and agree with what you are saying about definition of pilgrim spirit.
When we started our walk in LePuy, FR, I missed the spirit we felt on the Camino Frances. But I gradually adapted and grew to love the quiet. And, yes, we had lovely experiences with the pilgrims we did get to know.
What guide books did you use for the Via Francegena ?
We walked 6 weeks in FR. We enjoyed that amount of time so are thinking of doing that amount of time again.
I love this discussion and your comments!
Thought provoking as we get ready for our next walk. This is the beauty of the Camino and this blog!
We lost our beloved 38 year old son to cancer one year ago today. Our walks have been so important to us on this journey of healing.
❤🌈🙏
The app on the https://www.viefrancigene.org/en/ website is better than any guidebook as they update it. I was always a guidebook fan, but after day 2 using the app, I was a convert. You can download the maps and use it offline so you are not draining your data. You still have to use a healthy dose of common sense, but it is incredibly easy to use. Mel
 

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