ClintBallinger
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- Time of past OR future Camino
- 2020. I used to live in Pamplona & did an archaeological dig in Roncesvalles, know many Camino towns
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You probably missed what it says when you click on one of the links: Temporary visa holders do not need an exemption to depart Australia. They can leave at any time, as long as border restrictions in their home country allow them to return. In general, foreign residents can often leave their country of residence - the problems may start when they want to come back again.Unless I am missing something here, you are not allowed to leave Australia
Our friends in Vienna called around and the authorities they spoke with said that the military should have allowed them in because of their Spanish residency cards, but in the moment there was no one for Nate to appeal to and the military was rushing them to book their return flights to Spain.
I have no first hand knowledge. I've followed a few current blogs of people walking from SJPP to Roncesvalles. Not a single one said anything about temporary border controls still in place and I am 100% certain that people would have mentioned it because it would have been so exceptional. In any case, there are no border controls at the mountain pass and there have not been any such controls during the recent lockdown and other Covid-19 measures.But I wanted to double check if they are checking passports or anything now - I am afraid a local border official might see the US passport and decline entry
By everything I have read I am technically "legal" ...guess what I was afraid of was something like the Vienna experience above.Hey everyone...thanks for the input!Walking in the rain at moment and on phone, still reading replies.
Jungleboy- you are correct ppl can't leave Australia now, even non Australian residents. However, I have obtained permission for other reasons. Thanks though
On some of the other replies (I only skimmed). I am almost sure whoever wrote that what matters is not passport but country of flight origin/residence is correct.
Anyway, I am also almost sure no one ever checks at the pass after Orisson. Just double checking.
My larger problem might be at the Portuguese border...(?)
OK, although you are not travelling to Austria, I found some information online that may help to understand what happened at Vienna airport and alleviate your fears concerning entry into Portugal from Spain. Viennaairport.com has this to say (translated from German and dated 24 August 2020):By everything I have read I am technically "legal" ...guess what I was afraid of was something like the Vienna experience above.
Wow- thank you so much! All these details are what kept me from pulling the trigger on expensive tickets. You have been an immense help- wisdom of the crowds.OK, although you are not travelling to Austria, I found some information online that may help to understand what happened at Vienna airport and alleviate your fears concerning entry into Portugal from Spain. Viennaairport.com has this to say (translated from German and dated 24 August 2020):
Persons who enter Austria from one of the following states and have their residence or habitual abode [...] in one of these states may enter without restriction. For this purpose, the person entering Austria must provide credible evidence that he or she has not been in any other country other than [...] the aforementioned countries in the last 10 days. The following countries are currently on this list: [...] Spain (Canary Islands) [...].For entry from all other countries into Austria, either a negative COVID-19 test (not older than 72 hours) or a 10-day quarantine must be presented. When entering Austria from the following COVID-19 risk areas, there is no free choice between test or quarantine - a negative COVID-19 test must be presented upon entry. This applies to entry from: [...] Spain (mainland and Balearic Islands) [...]
The current situation in the EU and in Schengen and in the UK is quite a mess: hugely different rules about requirements for test, quarantine etc etc when crossing borders, and every other day one or two of these rules seems to get modified. To my knowledge, you will currently not encounter anything of this sort at the Spanish-Portuguese border.
Just to clarify: I don't know what the situation was like when they travelled but the current situation is clear: If you are a US passport holder and fly directly from Santiago to Vienna, you have to present a negative PCR test that is not older than 3 days or 72 hours and you have to start to quarantine for 10 days in Austria. (Erfolgt eine Einreise nach Österreich durch Drittstaatsangehörige direkt aus einem EU-/Schengenstaat, so haben diese einen negativen PCR-Test (nicht älter als 3 Tage bzw. 72 Stunden) vorzuweisen und zusätzlich eine zehntägige Quarantäne anzutreten). This is because mainland Spain is currently considered by Austria as a region without a stable Covid-19 situation.Our friends in Vienna called around and the authorities they spoke with said that the military should have allowed them in because of their Spanish residency cards, but in the moment there was no one for Nate to appeal to and the military was rushing them to book their return flights to Spain.
Just to clarify: I don't know what the situation was like when they travelled but the current situation is clear: If you are a US passport holder and fly directly from Santiago to Vienna, you have to present a negative PCR test that is not older than 3 days or 72 hours and you have to start to quarantine for 10 days in Austria. (Erfolgt eine Einreise nach Österreich durch Drittstaatsangehörige direkt aus einem EU-/Schengenstaat, so haben diese einen negativen PCR-Test (nicht älter als 3 Tage bzw. 72 Stunden) vorzuweisen und zusätzlich eine zehntägige Quarantäne anzutreten). This is because mainland Spain is currently considered by Austria as a region without a stable Covid-19 situation.
Although this is not directly relevant for this thread, which is about travelling between France, Spain and Portugal, I mention it to point out how different the situations can be when travelling within the EU and/or within the Schengen area. There are currently considerable differences between the entry conditions of the various EU or Schengen countries when travelling between these countries.
It is important to consult official sources and preferably as close to departure time as possible. Unfortunately, a lot of the up to date information is often only available online in the country's language and not always easy to find.
This is only for people who fly to Spain and arrive at an international airport in Spain. It is explained under the link. Click on the large question mark in the top right corner or watch the explanatory video clip. Pilgrims who walk from Saint-Jean-Pied-de-Port to Roncesvalles do not have to fill in this Spanish health form.anyone entering Spain at the moment is required to have filled in a ‘health form’. You can do it online and they give you a code you have to show if asked. .. I don’t know how they check it if you’re entering on foot though...
Here are the details:
I am really sorry that this happened. I see on the website that Vienna airport does have a PCR test station on site and it grandiosely says that it's for "all passengers". Nowhere does it say that some groups of passengers may have to present the test upon entry. The rules change so quickly that it is tricky to stay up to date, especially when a country or a region is suddenly declared to be a risk zone by another country.Austria had just implemented new rules on August 10 saying that travelers from Spain would need to present a Covid test taken within the last 72 hours OR take a test upon arrival at the airport
This is only for people who fly to Spain and arrive at an international airport in Spain. It is explained under the link. Click on the large question mark in the top right corner or watch the explanatory video clip. Pilgrims who walk from Saint-Jean-Pied-de-Port to Roncesvalles do not have to fill in this Spanish health form.
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