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Numbers are up (as always) and September can be extremely busy,
Yes, it's peak season for those starting from St Jean Pied de Port, but not necessarily from Carrión de los Condes. Most of the September "bed race" occurs between St Jean and Pamplona. After that the pilgrim traffic tends to spread out, as there are more intermediate towns to stay in.although you will be walking at one of the peak times. There will doubtless be bed-race stories on here in September; as there is every April
There will doubtless be bed-race stories on here in September; as there is every April - but it’ll be fine.
Actually, numbers on the Frances are very close to 2017/2018 and may actually be down on some months.Numbers are up (as always)
More and more pilgrims are using electronic devices. and tour services all along the Camino. Tour services have an impact on bed availability. The will reserve an entire albergue or two. So instead of lodging being spread out it becomes concentrated. Good luck if you plan on staying in a small town with limited beds. Advance booking using electronics also impacts availability. Good luck arriving early to assure a bed. Advanced booking has made that irrelevant. Also in the afternoon you will find many pilgrims bent over their phones spending a considerable amount of time arranging lodging and communicating back home. Not relaxing and socializing with others.I will commence in Carrion de Los Condes sometime September. What, if anything, do I need to take into account this time around or would I find helpful? I do not plan to pre-book stays unless I learn while on route it is imperative. Honestly, I don't want to overthink this trip. I just want to grab my previous credentials, fly, and go. Is this being foolish?
More and more pilgrims are using electronic devices. and tour services all along the Camino. Tour services have an impact on bed availability. The will reserve an entire albergue or two. So instead of lodging being spread out it becomes concentrated. Good luck if you plan on staying in a small town with limited beds. Advance booking using electronics also impacts availability. Good luck arriving early to assure a bed. Advanced booking has made that irrelevant. Also in the afternoon you will find many pilgrims bent over their phones spending a considerable amount of time arranging lodging and communicating back home. Not relaxing and socializing with others.
BLEET BLEETI think that when people ask for a long term perspective that it would be better to look at the actual numbers rather than just assuming that because lots of people have recently bleeted about increasing numbers that those bleets were factual.
I walked late May thru early Pamplona.Yes, it's peak season for those starting from St Jean Pied de Port, but not necessarily from Carrión de los Condes. Most of the September "bed race" occurs between St Jean and Pamplona. After that the pilgrim traffic tends to spread out, as there are more intermediate towns to stay in.
Yes, it's peak season for those starting from St Jean Pied de Port, but not necessarily from Carrión de los Condes. Most of the September "bed race" occurs between St Jean and Pamplona. After that the pilgrim traffic tends to spread out, as there are more intermediate towns to stay
It will be very very hot so start early--no later than 7AM, especially if heat adversely affects your exercise toleranceI will commence in Carrion de Los Condes sometime September. What, if anything, do I need to take into account this time around or would I find helpful? I do not plan to pre-book stays unless I learn while on route it is imperative. Honestly, I don't want to overthink this trip. I just want to grab my previous credentials, fly, and go. Is this being foolish?
Certainly overall numbers for pilgrims to Santiago are up. But that doesn't mean they are up everywhere along every Camino at every time of the year. What I've been seeing is that some routes or sections are up a lot (Sarria to Santiago on the Frances, Porto to Santiago on the Portugues) others are not up so much or, by some reports, are actually down (SJPdP to Sarria on the Frances).BLEET BLEET
In what world of statistics are you living that the numbers on the Camino are NOT up over the past six years?!?!
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While Holy Years cause spikes in the numbers, the overall reported Pilgrims Office numbers consistently show an upwards trend of more pilgrims receiving Compostelas. This does not include those repeat walkers who choose not to seek that documentation but still take up beds and trail on the route.
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And finally - anecdotally - having walked multiple routes since 2017 and served twice as a hospitalero, it’s definitely obvious that the statistical trend is correct.
Thanks.Certainly overall numbers for pilgrims to Santiago are up. But that doesn't mean they are up everywhere along every Camino at every time of the year. What I've been seeing is that some routes or sections are up a lot (Sarria to Santiago on the Frances, Porto to Santiago on the Portugues) others are not up so much or, by some reports, are actually down (SJPdP on the Frances).
But I'm not sure if those reports of reduced numbers on the earlier parts of the Frances are in comparison to six years ago or more recent numbers, or if they are just applicable to certain times of the year.
Depending on your situation, you don't have to prebook. Many don't unless they have a need such as shipping a bag or are uncomfortable with just walking to a place they feel like stopping.Thank you everyone! The use of electronics to pre-book does seem a bit alarming and will be new for me, but I'm still going to go with the flow and see how the day unfolds each day. I'm excited!!!
Curious to hear if you had any trouble finding a place to stay. Albergue or hotel?Cost!!!! Walked 2013, 2019 and walked in September 2022. Cost up a bit from 2019. However, just finished CF from SJPP a few weeks ago June/July 2023 walking in my typical fashion, staying at the same or similar places to last September and it was completely shocking that In only 9 months the cost of many things had GREATLY increased from food, meals, to private rooms and some albergues. It really added up over the entire trip. I was not entirely prepared for that.…haha.
I've just came back from my 3rd CF, last one was in 2019 and many places were closed. Mostly places to eat and drink along the path but many shut down. I guess Covid took it's toeI will commence in Carrion de Los Condes sometime September. What, if anything, do I need to take into account this time around or would I find helpful? I do not plan to pre-book stays unless I learn while on route it is imperative. Honestly, I don't want to overthink this trip. I just want to grab my previous credentials, fly, and go. Is this being foolish?
No problem finding a bed or room. I was traveling with my 10 year old grandson. Our strategy: We booked ahead before leaving in places we wanted to stay such as Borda (fantastic) and first few nights from SJPP. Of the 37 nights, We stayed in eight Albergues dorm rooms, and the rest a combo of private rooms in Albergues, one Airbnb, one hotel, and a camp. We called ahead one or two days for places we really wanted to stay. Albergues always seemed to have bunks available if we couldn’t get a private room. Staying in between the popular stops was pleasant and sometimes quite empty. We booked Santiago before we left so we could stay at Hospederia San Martin Pinario with pilgrim rate for last three nights.Curious to hear if you had any trouble finding a place to stay. Albergue or hotel?
To me, waiting in the long line at the Pilgrim Office was one of the highlights of the Camino. Reunion time!More pilgrims with electronic devices. Fewer with just a guide book. More bag shipping than 2016. Faster train from Santiago to Madrid than 2016. Bus and train now co-located in Santiago. In Santiago the Cathedral doesn't have scaffolding and you can tour the Portico de Gloria. Pilgrim office has a new system for compostellas which is faster, but in my opinion less "pilgrimy" with printed compostellas and no standing in lines commiserating with others.
Kia ora @Vacajoe (greetings and may you be in good health)In what world of statistics are you living
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