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I don't think so but I'am not sure.Yes, going right to the source is always best! Although right now I only know approximately when I'll be there. I guess my question boils down to, is the internal dorm only for men?
Yes, going right to the source is always best! Although right now I only know approximately when I'll be there. I guess my question boils down to, is the internal dorm only for men?
@BalaHaha! Yes, Google can come up with some good ones (as can any online translator, to be fair...). But I can usually figure them out. I think you direct translation is the one, though. Thanks!
I have a friend who is may be Spanish-speaking, so I'll ask her to help with my email about attending night prayer and lauds. Who know what I might come up with, lol.
Meanwhile, if anyone has stayed there and knows first hand about about attending those from either the external guest house or places on town, please chime in.
Hi Bala:Google translate strikes again, lol.
I'd like to stay at Samos Abbey later this spring. Their website lists two types of accommodation: an "internal hospedería (only miscellaneous)" [their words] and an "external hospedería (mixed) 50 meters from the monastery."
Hmmmmm..... I'm clueless. Internal and external is fairly obvious. But who or what is "miscellaneous"?? And do I qualify?The page translates too quickly for me to catch the Spanish words. I'd really appreciate it if someone could shed some light on this!
While we're on the subject, is attending the liturgy of the hours open to those staying at other accommodations in town, or just to guests at the Abbey (miscellaneous or otherwise)? I've gone on retreat with the Trappist monks in upstate New York, and it's awesome. I'd love to something similar on pilgrimage in Spain.
Many thanks!
I actually ended up staying at the Hostal just diagonal from the monastery. And I had in the restaurant the best Caldo Gallego of the whole camino!! Really! The little hotel with all the bay windows. The walk to and from Samos is memorable. Felt like what the camino must have been like many centuries ago. NOT to be missed.Google translate strikes again, lol.
I'd like to stay at Samos Abbey later this spring. Their website lists two types of accommodation: an "internal hospedería (only miscellaneous)" [their words] and an "external hospedería (mixed) 50 meters from the monastery."
Hmmmmm..... I'm clueless. Internal and external is fairly obvious. But who or what is "miscellaneous"?? And do I qualify?The page translates too quickly for me to catch the Spanish words. I'd really appreciate it if someone could shed some light on this!
While we're on the subject, is attending the liturgy of the hours open to those staying at other accommodations in town, or just to guests at the Abbey (miscellaneous or otherwise)? I've gone on retreat with the Trappist monks in upstate New York, and it's awesome. I'd love to something similar on pilgrimage in Spain.
Many thanks!
Hi Bala:
I stayed in the Monastery in 2015. It is "donation" and is one large co-ed room. I don't remember it being cold and damp, but it was in late June. Vespers are just before the evening Mass. They were not as impressive as I had thought they might be. There were only a few monks participating, most of them quite elderly and you could hardly hear them; it was more like mumbling. The monastery tour is well worth the time, even if you don't understand Spanish. The floor to ceiling paintings in the cloister are amazing. Since I do speak Spanish, I asked if I might do the reading at Mass, and was allowed to do it.
Mass reading:
These pictures are amazing. Wow! I am so looking forward to seeing them in person.Here are some pics of the paintings.
Haha! Go figure!My favorite Google Translate story: a few years ago it would sometimes translate “Portugal” as “Canada”!
I actually ended up staying at the Hostal just diagonal from the monastery. And I had in the restaurant the best Caldo Gallego of the whole camino!! Really! The little hotel with all the bay windows. The walk to and from Samos is memorable. Felt like what the camino must have been like many centuries ago. NOT to be missed.
@Bala , hi
I stayed at Samos Monastery in the latter part of October 2017.
Entrance to the 40 (or so) bed dormitory is directly from the left hand side of the road with two restaurants opposite on the right hand side of the entrance the village. The large ablutions room with separate stalls with doors for toilets and showers and common hand basins is to the left of the dorm. There were blankets available, which I used. That was about it.
I walked in of the road without a booking. Both genders were present. The hospitaleros were welcoming and knowledgable.
On arrival I asked if I could attend Vespers and/or Compline and if there was a Eucharist and/or blessing for pilgrims. I was told none of this was possible. The detailed explanation given made sense to me. The hospitalero seemed to be in regular contact with abbot (or prior) and this was a long term policy going forward.
Hope this answers (some of) your questions.
Kia kaha (take care, be strong, get going)
Women are allowed only the the mixed dormitory. Mice outnumbered the pilgrims when I was there, but it is artistically adorned. The bed and food are better in the hostal across the street!
Well, I'd read about the bedbug problems, the damp cold air, and also that the road walking to get to Samos can be rather treacherous, and now mice! The hostel and hotel across the road are sounding like a pretty good alternative, along with the best soup ever!
I think you may find out if you look at the name of the cleric ...there is a statue of what appears to be a previous abbot. In the inscription below the statue is the name of the cleric plus the word 'Australia'.
I visited Samos monastery in 2011 and I was told by the guide that there only 13 monks in residence. In such a huge building it is remarkable. The renovations of the whole building was carried out in the early 2000's and was paid for by the Spanish government.
And now a question: inside in the first quadrangle from the visitors entrance and on the right in the walkway around the quadrangle there is a statue of what appears to be a previous abbot. In the inscription below the statue is the name of the cleric plus the word 'Australia' Since I am from Australia I would love to know the connection. The guide was unable to help. Does anybody out there know?
The guided tour is well worth doing.
can you share (briefly) why no guests at mass or vespers? Monks too elderly and infirm?
Santo Domingo de Silos has a similar fate. All the monks show up to sing vespers, and there are about two per decade of age, so under twenty total. Similarly, men can dine in silence, meditate, and sleep with the monks, but not women. The Cisterciense convent in Santo Domingo de la Calzada admits guests to vespers and sings/chants from behind a partition away from the view of the audience. Only women are able to join the nuns for other activities, but the convent also operates a coed albergue and a hotel.Very sad. I wonder how long it will be able to remain open as an active monastery.
Santo Domingo de Silos has a similar fate. All the monks show up to sing vespers, and there are about two per decade of age, so under twenty total. Similarly, men can dine in silence, meditate, and sleep with the monks, but not women. The Cisterciense convent in Santo Domingo de la Calzada admits guests to vespers and sings/chants from behind a partition away from the view of the audience. Only women are able to join the nuns for other activities, but the convent also operates a coed albergue and a hotel.
-- There are some other places I would stay if you are looking for a few days retreat.
Isn’t it wonderful to discover these connections. After my first Camino, on arrival at the Cathedral in Santiago, I decided to avail myself of the availability of confession in English. After reciting the pro-forms we all learned as kids, and admitting several years absence from this particular sacrament, the priest interrupted and asked me where I was from. When I told him Western Australia he was delighted to tell me about one of their monks at the Benedictine Monastery in Santiago who’d spent two decades at New Norcia. He told me the garden of the monastery was full of trees and plants that this monk had brought back as seeds and saplings.Hi David
When the monk in the shop heard we were from Perth he took us to see the statue of Dom Salvado who started the monastery in New Norcia. We have a local pilgrimage from Subiaco to New Norcia in the footsteps of Dom Rosendo Salvado. It takes a week and is guided two weeks in September each year. google for more info if you are interested.
Isn’t it wonderful to discover these connections. After my first Camino, on arrival at the Cathedral in Santiago, I decided to avail myself of the availability of confession in English. After reciting the pro-forms we all learned as kids, and admitting several years absence from this particular sacrament, the priest interrupted and asked me where I was from. When I told him Western Australia he was delighted to tell me about one of their monks at the Benedictine Monastery in Santiago who’d spent two decades at New Norcia. He told me the garden of the monastery was full of trees and plants that this monk had brought back as seeds and saplings.
We had a good old chat, and the rest of the process went without a second thought. I was smiling at the curious onlookers when I came out!
I stayed in Hotel Arco de San Juan which is directly opposite the Monastery/ It has its own website. Phone number is +34 947 390 074.
Isn’t it wonderful to discover these connections. After my first Camino, on arrival at the Cathedral in Santiago, I decided to avail myself of the availability of confession in English. After reciting the pro-forms we all learned as kids, and admitting several years absence from this particular sacrament, the priest interrupted and asked me where I was from. When I told him Western Australia he was delighted to tell me about one of their monks at the Benedictine Monastery in Santiago who’d spent two decades at New Norcia. He told me the garden of the monastery was full of trees and plants that this monk had brought back as seeds and saplings.
We had a good old chat, and the rest of the process went without a second thought. I was smiling at the curious onlookers when I came out!
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