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I don't know whether this has been raised here in the past. It occurred to me, though, that something I'd very much like to see is a monument, or memorial, to those pilgrims who started out for SdC but for one reason or another never made it. A mercifully small number, as we know, die on the trail, and most of those seem to be commemorated in one way or another. But there are very many others who cannot continue especially for medical reasons. I saw a lot of them on the Francés last year, where—on the later stages especially, to my surprise—people were going down around me left and right. Outside Gonzar, where I was nearly crippled by a bad tendon that reduced my speed for much of the day to around 2 kmh, I greatly feared that I was about to join their number.
I had the occasion to speak with some at the night-stops, and they were taking it very hard. They felt like failures, by and large, and also seemed to experience a kind of guilt that they could no longer take a part in sharing the physical hardships of their friends who were continuing on.
In my own view, a huge amount of good fortune factors into getting to finish one of these things. I've been very lucky, twice. But I'm no tougher or better than innumerable pilgrims who started off with high hopes and to whom the gift of completion was, through no fault of their own, withheld.
If no permanent marker to pay tribute to them exists, it ought to. And if anybody has any good ideas about getting one and wishes to set the wheels in motion, I'm good for the first hundred euro to kick-start the fundraising effort.
I kind of like the idea although I'm not really sure what would that monument really mean to pilgrims that had to stop their pilgrimage location wise. In 2009 I was one of them and I had to finish my Camino in Logrono. Maybe there was someone in Leon? Another one in Astorga? So what would the appropriate location for this monument (a bit exaggerated word perhaps?) be???I don't know whether this has been raised here in the past. It occurred to me, though, that something I'd very much like to see is a monument, or memorial, to those pilgrims who started out for SdC but for one reason or another never made it. A mercifully small number, as we know, die on the trail, and most of those seem to be commemorated in one way or another. But there are very many others who cannot continue especially for medical reasons. I saw a lot of them on the Francés last year, where—on the later stages especially, to my surprise—people were going down around me left and right. Outside Gonzar, where I was nearly crippled by a bad tendon that reduced my speed for much of the day to around 2 kmh, I greatly feared that I was about to join their number.
I had the occasion to speak with some at the night-stops, and they were taking it very hard. They felt like failures, by and large, and also seemed to experience a kind of guilt that they could no longer take a part in sharing the physical hardships of their friends who were continuing on.
In my own view, a huge amount of good fortune factors into getting to finish one of these things. I've been very lucky, twice. But I'm no tougher or better than innumerable pilgrims who started off with high hopes and to whom the gift of completion was, through no fault of their own, withheld.
If no permanent marker to pay tribute to them exists, it ought to. And if anybody has any good ideas about getting one and wishes to set the wheels in motion, I'm good for the first hundred euro to kick-start the fundraising effort.
I don't know whether this has been raised here in the past. It occurred to me, though, that something I'd very much like to see is a monument, or memorial, to those pilgrims who started out for SdC but for one reason or another never made it. A mercifully small number, as we know, die on the trail, and most of those seem to be commemorated in one way or another. But there are very many others who cannot continue especially for medical reasons. I saw a lot of them on the Francés last year, where—on the later stages especially, to my surprise—people were going down around me left and right. Outside Gonzar, where I was nearly crippled by a bad tendon that reduced my speed for much of the day to around 2 kmh, I greatly feared that I was about to join their number.
I had the occasion to speak with some at the night-stops, and they were taking it very hard. They felt like failures, by and large, and also seemed to experience a kind of guilt that they could no longer take a part in sharing the physical hardships of their friends who were continuing on.
In my own view, a huge amount of good fortune factors into getting to finish one of these things. I've been very lucky, twice. But I'm no tougher or better than innumerable pilgrims who started off with high hopes and to whom the gift of completion was, through no fault of their own, withheld.
If no permanent marker to pay tribute to them exists, it ought to. And if anybody has any good ideas about getting one and wishes to set the wheels in motion, I'm good for the first hundred euro to kick-start the fundraising effort.
That would be some monument !!!As I walked CF with a friend two years ago, we discussed this very issue of having a memorial erected in memory of us if we passed away along the Camino. We decided that my memorial would have a tap on the side and would dispense a premium beer.
I've followed the camino forum for a while and I have enjoyed and thrilled to catch more ideas and helpful advices.
However I have not found a simple and fundamental question/answers why the people are taking the camino
and I myself am going to take a full camino walk on April, and I still don't have answer why.
I don't know whether this has been raised here in the past. It occurred to me, though, that something I'd very much like to see is a monument, or memorial, to those pilgrims who started out for SdC but for one reason or another never made it. A mercifully small number, as we know, die on the trail, and most of those seem to be commemorated in one way or another. But there are very many others who cannot continue especially for medical reasons. I saw a lot of them on the Francés last year, where—on the later stages especially, to my surprise—people were going down around me left and right. Outside Gonzar, where I was nearly crippled by a bad tendon that reduced my speed for much of the day to around 2 kmh, I greatly feared that I was about to join their number.
I had the occasion to speak with some at the night-stops, and they were taking it very hard. They felt like failures, by and large, and also seemed to experience a kind of guilt that they could no longer take a part in sharing the physical hardships of their friends who were continuing on.
In my own view, a huge amount of good fortune factors into getting to finish one of these things. I've been very lucky, twice. But I'm no tougher or better than innumerable pilgrims who started off with high hopes and to whom the gift of completion was, through no fault of their own, withheld.
If no permanent marker to pay tribute to them exists, it ought to. And if anybody has any good ideas about getting one and wishes to set the wheels in motion, I'm good for the first hundred euro to kick-start the fundraising effort.
On the topic of memorials,I am due on Camino from Burgos in August and have been asked by friends of the late Pilgrim and much missed Forum member Philip Wren to bring back photos of his memorial tree.I met Philip before my first Camino,we were introduced by one of those friends of his to give me advice about my Journey.Philip turned up laden with armfulls of photos,books,memoribilia and enthusiasm and painted a picture only a total addict could.On telling him of my departure date Philip said that due to commitments and health he was unable to do a full Camino,but would meet me somewhere out there based on his expectation of my speed etc.Alas Philip passed away whilst I was further back ,and I did not hear for several days,so we never met.After I found out I walked in sadness dedicating all I saw and touched to Philips memory ,and feeling his spirit was with me to SDC.I believe his memorial is in Moratinos,but not sure if it is "on the way" .Can anyone out there assist this long winded request ?I don't know whether this has been raised here in the past. It occurred to me, though, that something I'd very much like to see is a monument, or memorial, to those pilgrims who started out for SdC but for one reason or another never made it. A mercifully small number, as we know, die on the trail, and most of those seem to be commemorated in one way or another. But there are very many others who cannot continue especially for medical reasons. I saw a lot of them on the Francés last year, where—on the later stages especially, to my surprise—people were going down around me left and right. Outside Gonzar, where I was nearly crippled by a bad tendon that reduced my speed for much of the day to around 2 kmh, I greatly feared that I was about to join their number.
I had the occasion to speak with some at the night-stops, and they were taking it very hard. They felt like failures, by and large, and also seemed to experience a kind of guilt that they could no longer take a part in sharing the physical hardships of their friends who were continuing on.
In my own view, a huge amount of good fortune factors into getting to finish one of these things. I've been very lucky, twice. But I'm no tougher or better than innumerable pilgrims who started off with high hopes and to whom the gift of completion was, through no fault of their own, withheld.
If no permanent marker to pay tribute to them exists, it ought to. And if anybody has any good ideas about getting one and wishes to set the wheels in motion, I'm good for the first hundred euro to kick-start the fundraising effort.
On the topic of memorials,I am due on Camino from Burgos in August and have been asked by friends of the late Pilgrim and much missed Forum member Philip Wren to bring back photos of his memorial tree.I met Philip before my first Camino,we were introduced by one of those friends of his to give me advice about my Journey.Philip turned up laden with armfulls of photos,books,memoribilia and enthusiasm and painted a picture only a total addict could.On telling him of my departure date Philip said that due to commitments and health he was unable to do a full Camino,but would meet me somewhere out there based on his expectation of my speed etc.Alas Philip passed away whilst I was further back ,and I did not hear for several days,so we never met.After I found out I walked in sadness dedicating all I saw and touched to Philips memory ,and feeling his spirit was with me to SDC.I believe his memorial is in Moratinos,but not sure if it is "on the way" .Can anyone out there assist this long winded request ?
Thank you.For more describing the evolution/location of the memorial to Philip Wren please see
https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/memorial-for-methodist-pilgrim-phil.18899/
and
http://moratinoslife.blogspot.fr/2014/03/a-tree-for-philip-wren.html?m=1
Philip Wren's presence is greatly missed by his digital family here on the forum.
May he be at peace.
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