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Br. David said:if you wake up in the night feeling cold then brace yourself, get up and go and empty your bladder (even if you think that you don't need to) - it makes an astounding difference when you get back into the bag
Br. David said:HHmm - you don't really need to know the science do you - you get into an aeroplane or trust the doctor without saying that I'm sure - so ask yourself what your use of such a sentence is intended to convey .. to me, and to others ...
Br. David said:don't pooh pooh it or criticise it,
WolverineDG said:Bridget & Peter, whenever I'm cold at home, I get up & do something. The activity makes you warmer because it gets your blood pumping. And of course, sliding back under the covers after being out in the cold will make you feel warmer too
Bridget and Peter said:Br. David said:if you wake up in the night feeling cold then brace yourself, get up and go and empty your bladder (even if you think that you don't need to) - it makes an astounding difference when you get back into the bag
I'm sorry, bro, I need to know the science for that - why on earth would doing a wee make one warmer? Please explain further.
Canuck said:Bridget,
Here is science explained for you, in layman's terms, hopefully, making sense:
This is called Bladder Cooling Relex(BCR) and it is a segmental reflex believed to be triggered by menthol sensitive cold receptors in the bladder wall, mediated by a spinal reflex pathway. This spinal reflex weakens with age and certain disorders. It keeps you from deep sleep. After emptying your bladder, you feel better, sleep better and deeper, hence not noticing the cold.
Canuck said:After emptying your bladder, you feel better, sleep better and deeper, hence not noticing the cold.
In essence, you're not feeling warmer, just not noticing the cold as much.
Bridget and Peter said:And then you go back to sleep because you're not busting any more.
Canuck said:Keep a hot bottle in your backpack..
Yes, it was amazing how freezing cold it was in church albergues this past May.liner
I'd consider that except for the fact that I'll be finishing up in October and it's sure to be colder.
The second reason is the few people I've talked to who had to sleep on cold marble floors of the church or other buildings...
I've finished a couple of caminos in late Nov and did a Pyrenese crossing in March (back when you could). I use a down quilt and a silk liner. The quilt can be folded and used as sandwich layers, or as a blanket. I was always toasty warm and sometimes too warm.I've been searching for a sleeping bag lately as well. I'm going in November/December, so I need something suitable for low temperatures as it could get pretty cold! For established camino walkers - what sort of temperature rating should I be going for? Can anyone reccommend one that's lightweight as well as warm?
~jo
The quilts that I bought from Costco last year are all down. I cut them in half, and it's the perfect size (and weight) to tuck inside a silk liner.I've finished a couple of caminos in late Nov and did a Pyrenese crossing in March (back when you could). I use a down quilt and a silk liner. The quilt can be folded and used as sandwich layers, or as a blanket. I was always toasty warm and sometimes too warm.
The quilt came from Costco, but I believe they have changed the contents from down to primaloft, so I don't know what temps the new ones will cover.
I bought a new one this year and discovered it's primaloft.The quilts that I bought from Costco last year are all down. I cut them in half, and it's the perfect size (and weight) to tuck inside a silk liner.
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