The stone cross outside A Rúa or A Calle (Ordes) Camino Inglés from Ferrol

Deleted member 73892 · Oct 19, 2017

Can anyone tell me to whom the ancient cross outside either of the two villages is dedicated to, please? I suspect its as you enter A Rúa, but can't be sure.The saint has a sword in hand and looks as though she could be going into/from battle(?) It's on the left hand side as you walk into the village, with the traditional stepped surround, and is probably a pilgrim marker too. There are waste containors set back from the road some ten meters further into the village. It would be great if someone knows, I've checked and searched for links and info but to no avail, and no photos found. If anyone finds a link or photos could they post them please. Many thanks. Keith

Buen Camino. Love, Light and Nature.

Rick of Rick and Peg · Oct 19, 2017

I tried to find some pictures too but I didn't have any luck. I did find that Ordes has quite an impressive collection of outdoor murals: https://www.flickr.com/nearby/43.07...ltime&sort=interestingness&page=1&show=detail

Stephen Nicholls · Oct 19, 2017

In 2014 when I walked the Ingles, my camera didn't have GPS! However these must be close to the area. One in particular is a cross on the back of a PIG! I've tried unsuccessfully to find out the story about that! [/ATTACH]

Stephen Nicholls · Oct 19, 2017

The statue has the date 1737, but that, I believe, is the date of the building of the church.

The state commemorates Saint Pelayo ....

Saint Pelagius of Oviedo

Also known as Pelagius the Martyr, Paio, and Pelayo…

Memorial: 26 June
Profile: left with Moors at age 10 as a hostage for his captured Christian uncle. Three years later, when Pelagius had not been ransomed, he was offered his freedom and a reward if he would convert to Islam and denounce Christianity; he declined. Martyred at age 13.

Born c.912 at Asturias, Spain
Died tortured to death in 925, relics moved to Leon, Spain in 967 then relics moved to Oviedo, Spain in 985

Hope this is of some interest to you.
Buen camino!

TerryB · Oct 19, 2017

Stephen Nicholls said:
In 2014 when I walked the Ingles, my camera didn't have GPS! However these must be close to the area. One in particular is a cross on the back of a PIG! I've tried unsuccessfully to find out the story about that!

We think the pig is one of the symbols used by the Andrade family. (They built the tower at Pontedueme). They are commemorated in the church of San Francisco at Betanzos which has the pig complete with cross on the church roof.

Inside the church is at tomb with the sarcophagos resting on a pig and a bear (I think!).

On the north coast (Ruta do Mar) there is this bronze statue in the plaza at Espasante.

Blessings
Tio Tel

natefaith · Oct 19, 2017

Redhead Keith said:
Can anyone tell me to whom the ancient cross outside either of the two villages is dedicated to, please? I suspect its as you enter A Rúa, but can't be sure.The saint has a sword in hand and looks as though she could be going into/from battle(?) It's on the left hand side as you walk into the village, with the traditional stepped surround, and is probably a pilgrim marker too. There are waste containors set back from the road some ten meters further into the village. It would be great if someone knows, I've checked and searched for links and info but to no avail, and no photos found. If anyone finds a link or photos could they post them please. Many thanks. Keith

Buen Camino. Love, Light and Nature.

Hi Keith, welcome to the Forum and that does ring a bell! I believe @miguel_gp or @JohnnieWalker can answer your question if they're on.

Deleted member 73892 · Oct 20, 2017

Rick of Rick and Peg said:
I tried to find some pictures too but I didn't have any luck. I did find that Ordes has quite an impressive collection of outdoor murals: https://www.flickr.com/nearby/43.07...ltime&sort=interestingness&page=1&show=detail

Thank you for the helpful and interesting reply
Keith

Deleted member 73892 · Oct 20, 2017

Stephen Nicholls said:
The statue has the date 1737, but that, I believe, is the date of the building of the church.

The state commemorates Saint Pelayo ....

Saint Pelagius of Oviedo

Also known as Pelagius the Martyr, Paio, and Pelayo…

Memorial: 26 June
Profile: left with Moors at age 10 as a hostage for his captured Christian uncle. Three years later, when Pelagius had not been ransomed, he was offered his freedom and a reward if he would convert to Islam and denounce Christianity; he declined. Martyred at age 13.

Born c.912 at Asturias, Spain
Died tortured to death in 925, relics moved to Leon, Spain in 967 then relics moved to Oviedo, Spain in 985

Hope this is of some interest to you.
Buen camino!

Thank you Stephen, your reply is much appreciated. Very interesting, although not the cross I have in mind... and dreamt about! I wish I had taken a photo and made a note - maybe I have tio do the Camino Inglés again. Regards, Keith., PS this posting is, at least, bringing-up some interesting information

Deleted member 73892 · Oct 20, 2017

natefaith said:
Hi Keith, welcome to the Forum and that does ring a bell! I believe @miguel_gp or @JohnnieWalker can answer your question if they're on.

Hi Natfaith - thank you for that, I hope they spot my post and can help. Best wishes, Keith

Deleted member 73892 · Oct 20, 2017

Thank you TerryB - your reply is very interesting and helpful, much appreciated. Best wishes, Keith

TerryB said:
We think the pig is one of the symbols used by the Andrade family. (They built the tower at Pontedueme). They are commemorated in the church of San Francisco at Betanzos which has the pig complete with cross on the church roof.
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Inside the church is at tomb with the sarcophagos resting on a pig and a bear (I think!).
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On the north coast (Ruta do Mar) there is this bronze statue in the plaza at Espasante.
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Blessings
Tio Tel

Deleted member 73892 · Oct 20, 2017

Stephen Nicholls said:
In 2014 when I walked the Ingles, my camera didn't have GPS! However these must be close to the area. One in particular is a cross on the back of a PIG! I've tried unsuccessfully to find out the story about that! [/ATTACH] View attachment 36926 View attachment 36927

Hi Stephen - I've just checked your other photos - DSCF 6704 looks promising - do you remember where it is or any details about it? Thanks. Keith

JohnnieWalker · Oct 20, 2017

Hola, the only place I can think of is before A Rua where the Church of San Pedro de Ardemil is on the Left hand side entering the village. Whereas the Church of San Pelayo is on the Right. After the church of San Pedro there is a notable Cruceiro - a saint wielding a sword is most likely Santiago Matamoros but I'd need to check. I've uploaded a pic of the church if that helps jog memories!

Deleted member 73892 · Oct 20, 2017

JohnnieWalker said:
Hola, the only place I can think of is before A Rua where the Church of San Pedro de Ardemil is on the Left hand side entering the village. Whereas the Church of San Pelayo is on the Right. After the church of San Pedro there is a notable Cruceiro - a saint wielding a sword is most likely Santiago Matamoros but I'd need to check. I've uploaded a pic of the church if that helps jog memories!

Hola! That's great, Mr Walker I'll check it out. Any further info gratefully received. Love, Light and Nature. Keith

Stephen Nicholls · Oct 23, 2017

Redhead Keith said:
Hi Stephen - I've just checked your other photos - DSCF 6704 looks promising - do you remember where it is or any details about it? Thanks. Keith

It's VERY close to the church that Johnnie Walker mentions - see my reply to him [below]. When I say 'very close' I mean probably within 100 metres!!
In my diary it says: "We walked on towards A Rua, passing the rather amazing statues in the outskirts of Ardemil. I have no idea what they were all about ...."

As you can see from the statue of Saint James, I am standing beside it. This gives some idea of the enormous size of the statues!

Stephen Nicholls · Oct 23, 2017

JohnnieWalker said:
Hola, the only place I can think of is before A Rua where the Church of San Pedro de Ardemil is on the Left hand side entering the village. Whereas the Church of San Pelayo is on the Right. After the church of San Pedro there is a notable Cruceiro - a saint wielding a sword is most likely Santiago Matamoros but I'd need to check. I've uploaded a pic of the church if that helps jog memories!

Greetings, young Johnnie!
I went to Mass in that church, and thought you might like to see a couple of pictures [or three!] My diary says "After 3 kms during which I had been accompanied by distant barking dogs, constant singing of the birds and the occasional cuckoo, I reached the church of San Pedro in Ardemil in good time for mass at 10:00. Almost everyone was standing outside the church at 09:55. It reminded me of funerals in the UK where folk unaccustomed to being in a church tend to remain outside until the very last moment. The Mass, readings, sermon and Holy Communion lasted for 22½ minutes. Mind you, I believe the priest was saying it at such a speed that even the locals would have had difficulty following."
The inside of the church was beautiful [see photos].

Blessings from grey England ....

Deleted member 73892 · Oct 23, 2017

Stephen Nicholls said:
It's VERY close to the church that Johnnie Walker mentions - see my reply to him [below]. When I say 'very close' I mean probably within 100 metres!!
In my diary it says: "We walked on towards A Rua, passing the rather amazing statues in the outskirts of Ardemil. I have no idea what they were all about ...."View attachment 36978 View attachment 36979 View attachment 36980
As you can see from the statue of Saint James, I am standing beside it. This gives some idea of the enormous size of the statues!

Hi Stephen - it seems that as it's of a saint with a sword, Johnie's suggestion that it is probably St James - 'The Big Man' himself, would make sense, even be logical (by my meagre expeirence, I'm not aware of other sword-wielding saints on any Camino - but please let me know if there are any). It answers a very important question for me and sets me upon a special path (again). Thank you to you all, its been fascinating and informative. LLN Keith

Stephen Nicholls · Oct 24, 2017

Redhead Keith said:
Hi Stephen - it seems that as it's of a saint with a sword, Johnie's suggestion that it is probably St James - 'The Big Man' himself, would make sense,

Keith - if you click on that picture to bring it up to full size, you'll see it's an enormous statue of St James [or a pilgrim], but there is no sword - he's just holding a pilgrim's staff.

Dennis M · Nov 11, 2017

@Redhead Keith buen camino. I’ll check my photos and hope I can help you find the right photo.

Tia Valeria · Nov 11, 2017

JohnnieWalker said:
Hola, the only place I can think of is before A Rua where the Church of San Pedro de Ardemil is on the Left hand side entering the village. Whereas the Church of San Pelayo is on the Right. After the church of San Pedro there is a notable Cruceiro - a saint wielding a sword is most likely Santiago Matamoros but I'd need to check. I've uploaded a pic of the church if that helps jog memories!

I have finally found our photo of the cruceiro at A Rua (Buscas) It only shows one side, but may have Santiago on the other side. (I have checked the location with @JohnnieWalker 's guide and Google 'street view')

Pelegrin · Nov 11, 2017

Stephen Nicholls said:
In 2014 when I walked the Ingles, my camera didn't have GPS! However these must be close to the area. One in particular is a cross on the back of a PIG! I've tried unsuccessfully to find out the story about that! [/ATTACH] View attachment 36926 View attachment 36927

As @Terry B said the pig is the symbol of the Andrade family. Under the pig the coat of arms.

Dennis M · Nov 12, 2017

@pontedeume

Dennis M · Nov 12, 2017

to Bruma

Dennis M · Nov 12, 2017

St James.. pointing Go West

Dennis M · Nov 12, 2017

@Betanzos

Dennis M · Nov 12, 2017

Heading to Siguero

Dennis M · Nov 12, 2017

@Stephen Nicholls already posted this .. just posting on a different look... I think that's all I can find.. however, i'll keep looking around since i have lots of photos

MarkN · May 24, 2022

Stephen Nicholls said:
In 2014 when I walked the Ingles, my camera didn't have GPS! One in particular is a cross on the back of a PIG! I've tried unsuccessfully to find out the story about that! [/ATTACH] View attachment 36927

Hello, Sorry to revive an old thread, however I was wondering the same thing about that pig cross as I walked by it today, especially when I then saw it on a church later that evening in Betzano. The first one is located as you walk out of Mino on a quiet side road. It's called CRUCEIRO DA PONTE DO PORCO (leyenda de Roxin Roxal) which you can search Google maps to find the exact location.

Theresa Brandon · May 24, 2022

Rick of Rick and Peg · May 24, 2022

MarkN said:
Hello, Sorry to revive an old thread, however I was wondering the same thing about that pig cross as I walked by it today, especially when I then saw it on a church later that evening in Betzano. The first one is located as you walk out of Mino on a quiet side road. It's called CRUCEIRO DA PONTE DO PORCO (leyenda de Roxin Roxal) which you can search Google maps to find the exact location.

Here's the legend of the pig. The webpage gives it in Galician(?) and again in Spanish. Of you use Chrome to translate the second, Spanish, version of the story is translated better.

A lenda da Ponte do Porco

A Ponte do Porco é unha pequena aldea na desembocadura do Río Lambre, de gran beleza natural, e débelle o seu nome a un feito histórico que alí acaeceu, ou tal vez fose unha lenda... Don Nuno Freire de Andrade, señor medieval das terras de Pontedeume, tiña unha filla chamada Tareixa. Tiña tamén

www.pousadoira.com

Here's its location:
CRUCEIRO DA PONTE DO PORCO (leyenda de Roxin Roxal)

CRUCEIRO DA PONTE DO PORCO (leyenda de Roxin Roxal) · Aldea Ponte do Porco, 12, 15630 A Ponte do Porco, A Coruña, Spain

Tourist attraction

maps.app.goo.gl

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