- Time of past OR future Camino
- First one in 2005 from Moissac, France.
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PS The inflatable mat was very expensive, I remember. Unfortunately I do not remember any details, neither size folded up, nor open, nor weight, nor price. Will have a look in the internet now.
It doesn't mention the silent P...as in sea.
They are selling mats for men and mats for women??? What a hoax
@KinkyOne, I thought that you might like this extract from the product description of one such mat:They are selling mats for men and mats for women??? What a hoax
Perfect for side sleepers, the extra height of this mat lets hips sink deeper into it without touching the ground.
Somehow the upper baffles delaminated after a year of use.
Depends how tough you are and how much weight you want to carry! For me, 100% necessary partly for the warmth but mostly for the comfort.I would think that outside of winter, early spring and late autumn, insulation wouldn’t be necessary?
Does the warmth insulation actually contribute to cushioning comfort? I recall sleeping on an air mattress during a camping trip, and getting cold as the mattress had no insulation, but it was comfortable enough otherwise.Depends how tough you are and how much weight you want to carry! For me, 100% necessary partly for the warmth but mostly for the comfort.
I am interested in this as well. My simple understanding is that the aim is to reduce the rate of heat transfer from the body to the ground, ie not letting the heat out. It's like walking on a stone floor compared to carpet - they can both be at the same ambient temperature but in bare feet, the stone floor will always feel colder because the stone transfers heat more efficiently. It is cooling your feet down quicker than carpet might. All this goes to how long it takes to get uncomfortably cold during a cold night. Higher R-value mats should delay this.Does the warmth insulation actually contribute to cushioning comfort? I recall sleeping on an air mattress during a camping trip, and getting cold as the mattress had no insulation, but it was comfortable enough otherwise.
Does the warmth insulation actually contribute to cushioning comfort? I recall sleeping on an air mattress during a camping trip, and getting cold as the mattress had no insulation, but it was comfortable enough otherwise.
@davebugg - fab posts!! - So ... tell me if I am wrong (or if anyone else has tried this), but it seems that carrying both an inflatable mat and a closed cell mat could be interesting ... lay closed cell mat down as an insulating 'first line of comfort' base and then lay the inflatable on top?
When I camped for a few days the last thing I wanted to do was travel with a huge sleeping mat rolled up and strapped to my pack. On reaching De Los Padres Albergue in Puenta la Reina I casually asked the Hospitalero if someone had left a sleeping mat behind. He led me to a room with multiple cupboards and opened up each one - there they were , hundreds of orphaned mats. I took one and made a donation , then a week or so later I left it at another albergue.
I really like this one from decathlon
FORCLAZ TREKKING INFLATABLE MATTRESS TREK 700 AIR XL - YELLOW
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Super light/easy to blow up and comfortable.
Hi all - this a spin-off to the "thinking about tents" thread ... it looks like tenting will become more popular when the Camino opens, the hope being that refugios will allow distancing pilgrims to put up tents; in their gardens, on their forecourts, etc, for a reduced fee - allowing access to the facilities .. (so a free-standing tent then)
... but what to sleep on? ... seems like veteran thru-hikers have stronger or fitter bodes than old and achey pilgrims like me so I thought it would be great to hear personal experiences with various sleeping mats..
What are the basics? Comfort, weight, pack-down size? Solid or self-inflating?
With thrifty head on I bought a cheap Silentnight inflatable - big and heavy! and although it works 'well', it seems pretty uncomfortable to me and after a couple of nights I get really achey so I think we may need to throw out our budget conscious thoughts here.... lots of 'best sleeping mats' sites out there but what about doing our own?
Your mat - what are you? Young and fit? Old and achey? How comfortable is it in the middle of a tired night? What does it weigh? How small does it pack down? What did you pay? Was it worth the money? What mats have you got rid of to get the one you have now? Why?
Just want to say that I know nothing about this .. I have researched online and they ALL say they are the best mat .. so ... this isn't about me or what I should take but for all of us, we need to know! Especially we amateur (and probably ancient) campers who would prefer a big sprung mattress (in a hotel) so, please, tell us!
Hi, I've used the Thermarest NeoAir XLite for years. It has an insulating R value of about 4 and mine is a short, ultra lightweight at 8 ounces. I've used it on some of the hardest, blue plastic covered, cold albergue mattresses, concrete floors, ground, airport floors etc. It is the cat's meow. It packs really small and it is easily inflated by mouth with about 8 good breaths. Most of the experienced long distance walkers that I know use this matress also. Have a look here; https://www.thermarest.com/sleeping-pads/fast-and-light/neoair-xlite-sleeping-pad/neoair-xlite.htmlHi all - this a spin-off to the "thinking about tents" thread ... it looks like tenting will become more popular when the Camino opens, the hope being that refugios will allow distancing pilgrims to put up tents; in their gardens, on their forecourts, etc, for a reduced fee - allowing access to the facilities .. (so a free-standing tent then)
... but what to sleep on? ... seems like veteran thru-hikers have stronger or fitter bodes than old and achey pilgrims like me so I thought it would be great to hear personal experiences with various sleeping mats..
What are the basics? Comfort, weight, pack-down size? Solid or self-inflating?
With thrifty head on I bought a cheap Silentnight inflatable - big and heavy! and although it works 'well', it seems pretty uncomfortable to me and after a couple of nights I get really achey so I think we may need to throw out our budget conscious thoughts here.... lots of 'best sleeping mats' sites out there but what about doing our own?
Your mat - what are you? Young and fit? Old and achey? How comfortable is it in the middle of a tired night? What does it weigh? How small does it pack down? What did you pay? Was it worth the money? What mats have you got rid of to get the one you have now? Why?
Just want to say that I know nothing about this .. I have researched online and they ALL say they are the best mat .. so ... this isn't about me or what I should take but for all of us, we need to know! Especially we amateur (and probably ancient) campers who would prefer a big sprung mattress (in a hotel) so, please, tell us!
Combining pad and inflatable is exactly what we do. The inflatable for comfort and the pad for deflation insurance (happened about twice in 10 yrs of backpacking, but still....) and insulation in winter. Our first inflatables lasted ~ 10 yrs and 100+ nights before failing when the coating got brittle, pretty good. I'm an active 74yr side sleeper with sometimes severe back problems. Have tried many ~ 2.5in. thick inflatables on store floors and concluded that comfort-wise they're very similar when used partially deflated - I lie on my side and bleed air until my spine is level and hips and shoulders are just off the ground. Used this way I can't tell the difference between quilting styles or price. We chose less fancy Big Agnes models, but others probably would have been fine. The "stuff sack" inflation system fills them in 4-5 cycles - quick, easy, no moisture. Just about any light weight closed cell model will do for the pad, am currently using a ridged roll up type though "blue foam" is fine, hip length is sufficient for insurance. Incidentally, this is the most comfortable sleeping system for my back and becomes my "regular bed" when things are bad.@davebugg - fab posts!! - So ... tell me if I am wrong (or if anyone else has tried this), but it seems that carrying both an inflatable mat and a closed cell mat could be interesting ... lay closed cell mat down as an insulating 'first line of comfort' base and then lay the inflatable on top? Or would this be overkill?
Wrap them in one roll, two is not much bigger than one@Richard -"If so try two yellow closed cell mats and see if they meet your needs. "
Now that is an interesting idea! So cheap too!! Thanks!!
Let me add a suggestion. The Multimat Superlite is only 190 grams (175 striped down) and is warm enough for summer in Spain.
Multimat - Superlite 8
Sleeping mat, ultra-light and ultra-compact for competitive challenges & backpacking 100% British manufactured from unique, ultra-lightweight polyolefin foam The ultimate in weight reduction Eyelets and lightweight attached webbingwww.multimat.uk.com
Ever tried a balloon bed at only 100g?
I’ve still got one from my past mountain marathon events.
They rely on having lots of time in the evening to blow the balloons up. (This is serious!)
You get a good nights sleep and everyone else keeps warm laughing.
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