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Maps from OpenStreetMap will often show trails and small roads that Google's maps don't. There is also an app, OSMand, that works on Android (not sure about Apple) that will work offline with OSM to show where you are on a previously downloaded map. Maps can be viewed online at http://www.openstreetmap.org/I couldn't find any wikiloc tracks, but notice from Google Maps that there are villages along the way and that some even have albergues...
And now there are more ideas thanks to Castilian...these old routes, Castilian, are new to me...so I had to look them up. Here are a few links so that if others are curious they'll give you a sense of them. Veeeerrrry interesting ideas! Speaking of the mountains and natural landscapes these caminos cross, one of the websites says, " A gift for these times of pollution and excess cement."P.S.: Don't forget that out of Pamplona you have the Viejo Camino to Santiago de Compostela (aka de Pamplona branch of the Camino Olvidado). It joins in Aguilar de Campoo with the (Bilbao branch of the) Camino Olvidado and it joins the Francés in Columbrianos, next to Ponferrada. Of course, you can go to Ponferrada and take the Camino de Invierno... If you are walking the Vía de Bayona (aka the Burgos branch of the Camino Vasco del Interior), you can take the Viejo Camino in Miranda de Ebro.
Ah my friend the GR 82! I walked on it out of SDdS this spring, by mistake. It made for a magical morning. And a very long day--because I was going in another direction altogether. But it was worth it (check out the view!). And then I noticed it again near Santa Maria de Lara, going straight over the hill. At that point I was glad to be on the St Olav...Once in Huerta de Arriba, follow the GR 82 till Santo Domingo de Silos (you can easily find info about that GR online).
Real maps? Do tell, Tinkatinker...www.stanfords.co.uk
Hmm, try this one: http://www.stanfords.co.uk/ Been my favourite shop since the '60's. Away from the touristy stuff & the fluff they have presses full of real maps of real places. (I'm ex-Ordnance Survey). They carry good stock levels of the IGN.es series and will track down early Mapos Militares editions to fill gaps.Real maps? Do tell, Tinkatinker...
And I tried that link but got an error message. A site search is in order.
And now there are more ideas thanks to Castilian...these old routes, Castilian, are new to me...so I had to look them up.
Oh, to be able to just walk in a store and have access to these things! Lucky you Tinkatinker.Hmm, try this one: http://www.stanfords.co.uk/ Been my favourite shop since the '60's. Away from the touristy stuff & the fluff they have presses full of real maps of real places. (I'm ex-Ordnance Survey). They carry good stock levels of the IGN.es series and will track down early Mapos Militares editions to fill gaps.
This actually sounds like fun. But I'm not 20 anymore, so also a bit more of a challenge!in much of rural Spain and especially in mountain country a track goes from the village to the highest meadows / grazing. It does not cross the heights. You need to improvise that bit and then pick up the track down to the next valley.
Castilian, you never cease to amaze. There's a ton of good information there! Thanks.This forum might be the best source for the Viejo Camino (aka the Pamplona branch of the Camino Olvidado) so you didn't have to look too far away.
I am the Invierno whisperer.
Well, I just did a cursory check of CRs (and from my memory) to find that there are:
One each in: Banos de Rio Tobia, Mansilla de la Sierra, Barbadillo de Pez, Villaespasia, and Mansilla de la Sierra.
Two in: Anguiano--which looks like a particularly cool place: photos here. It has a bean festival and dances on stilts--oh, and a huge gothic monastery. Can you get much better than that?
That (natch!) was my intention in posting the thread in the first place as I'd gotten hooked by the landscape around the Lara Valley. The map at the top of the thread shows what I was thinking--basically the very long way from Najera to Burgos through the Sierra de la Demanda and then intersecting the St Olav at Santa Maria de Lara. (Who needs an excuse to go back there, but the church was closed on Good Friday.Do any of these hikes in the Sierra de la Demanda offer ways to patch together a walk from Najera to the San Olav? I admit I'm having trouble keeping the route in my mind, but it looks wonderful.
I do everything without a GPS.Would you do this without a GPS, Viranani?
@Viranani, I saw this thread last year and became envious. I hope the following may be of use to you in planning your camino.Actually the way looks pretty straightforward, though (unfortunately) it would mostly be road walking--so a good map or GPS would allow one to find ways to get around that.
Does the track look like this one? {Link to track}From Valganon there is a wonderful looking track across the mountains to Barbadillo del Pez
It is lovely, and you're right--it doesn't go even near Burgos. But. The San Olav and Ruta de Lana/Ebro do, and the GR82 intersects these routes at the church of Santa Maria de Lara, Covarrubias, and Santo Domingo de Silos. You could turn towards Burgos at any of these places. If you wanted to visit SDdS, you could walk to Covarrrubias on the GR82, then take the Ruta de Lana over to Silos, returning to Covarrubias the next day on the GR82--and from there take the San Olav up to Burgos. If SDdS isn't so big a deal for you, you could just continue on the San Olav from Santa Maria de Lara. All sorts of options.The GR82 looks like a lovely route to enjoy the Demandas, S.Domingo de Silos and the Montes de Oca but sadly doesn't provide an alternative 'camino' path to Burgos.
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