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Yarma said:I arrive in SJPDP 16/8/2013. Trying to give myself best chance of completing the adventure, but am finding that I am creating injuries just from the long walking sessions I am doing in preparation.
Should I be this intense ? or just get fit on the Camino?
Really excited to get going and having time of my life, hopefully with all limbs in tack. :wink: :?:
Biggest nightmare is crossing the Pryenees, BRING IT ON !!!!!
Cheers Yarma
Yarma said:I arrive in SJPDP 16/8/2013. Trying to give myself best chance of completing the adventure, but am finding that I am creating injuries just from the long walking sessions I am doing in preparation.
Should I be this intense ? or just get fit on the Camino?
Yarma said:Biggest nightmare is crossing the Pryenees, BRING IT ON !!!!!
HI LaliibeansLaliibeans said:If you can identify whether there is a specific thing causing the injury it's something you can be aware of and work on. Make sure you're stretching and build up slowly to longer distances and pack weights so your muscles can become accustomed to it. Take it slowly, you don't want to impair your Camino with injuries you got while training.
whariwharangi said:Yarma said:Biggest nightmare is crossing the Pryenees, BRING IT ON !!!!!
Its just a long day of walking ... don't psyche yourself out.
Its not pilgrim versus the mountain and it isn't a nightmare.
Training would be anything that gets you fit. Swimming cycling running. Yeah ... okay ... even walking with a pack. Just don't overdo it ... its not a competition and you don't get accolades for the longest distance in the shortest time.
Try aiming for 'fitness as a way of life' and not 'fitness as a way to survive the camino'.
Thank you Margaret I think I am going to focus on the Tortise...... :shock:mspath said:Yarma said:I arrive in SJPDP 16/8/2013. Trying to give myself best chance of completing the adventure, but am finding that I am creating injuries just from the long walking sessions I am doing in preparation.
Should I be this intense ? or just get fit on the Camino?
Really excited to get going and having time of my life, hopefully with all limbs in tack. :wink: :?:
Biggest nightmare is crossing the Pryenees, BRING IT ON !!!!!
Cheers Yarma
Yarma,
Go easy.
Be sure to train while wearing/carrying whatever you plan to take. Tried and true is better than new and never worn/used for all your camino gear. Although training is most important nothing really prepares your body for the daily repeated routine of walking the camino week after week except walking daily with all your kit week after week.
Although I had walked throughout the summer hiking 20 k up the 1060 meter Ibaneta pass via the Valcarlos route the first time in 2004 at 64 to the monastery at Roncevalles was certainly the most physically exhausting day of my adult life then to date. I was pooped! Beneath a deep blue sky and brilliant sun I gasped and ached while my pack felt like bricks. ...But eventually I made it to Santiago walking slowly all the way.
Then I learned the hard way that this is NOT a walk in the park! Just because so many pilgrims have been successful does not guarantee that all will be. Anybody any moment can pull or fall or break anything. The most common injury is the result of trying to walk too far too quickly carrying too much!
Since then I always walk slowly and very easy. Daily distances cited in the guidebooks are not sacred; remember the fable of the tortoise and the hare.
Happy training and Buen Camino,
Margaret Meredith
Hi BamaBama Hiker said:Yarma: You haven't given us much info on yourself -- such as age, level of fitness, where or what on your body that is having problems and injuries. But the fact that you are having injuries is a concern. My brother and I will walk the Camino in October and to date I have now walked the same distance of over 485 miles in the past year in preparation. Being fit BEFORE the Camino will allow you to enjoy your experience. Trying to "Get Fit" on the Camino is going to distract from your enjoyment and overall experience. If you are having blisters or foot problems, it may be your foot gear. Did you get fitted for your boots/shoes by a knowledgeable sales rep at specialty hiking store? Did you get some high end, durable, good quality boots or shoes? Are you tripping or stumble on your walk? Are you using trekking poles to help with your balance? This is only a stab in the dark.
Can you be more specific in what your issues are? That would help us to give you some sound advice. But you are on the right track if you are trying to be in shape for the Camino. And take and practice walking with the clothing and gear you plan to take with you. If it does not do the job now, then you know it will not work later out on the Camino. Let us know.
Buen Camino!
I don't see how this can be true. Typical ground reaction forces for running are two to three times body weight. This is transmitted through the ankles, knees and hips. Depending on how fast one is walking, the ground reaction force is only slightly increased over body weight - associated with the frictional force required for forward propulsion.Camillis said:Actually running downhill is quite a good idea. It sounds idiotic but it it is gentler to your knees than walking.
fostersail1 said:Let me add ... I'm not suggesting that jogging/running is the proper technique. It's fraught with risk and really goes against the Camino spirit. My discussion is the result of a mental disease that many engineers are afflicted with ... too much analysis. I personally have used the zig-zagging technique and that seems to work the best. It slows me down and minimizes the downhill impact on my knees. I'm actually sitting in an apartment in Marseille right now, letting my knee recover from too many mountains on the Camino del Norte. I made it 200km before it gave out.
I have an image in my mind that has caused me to respond to this topic. My wife and I did the Frances last year. She's a city girl and had never done anything like this before. I'm the athletic type and have spent a lot of time in the mountains. During our climb up the Pyrenees she suffered, not being at all accustomed to it. I walked along beside her with little effort. On the decline, we completely flipped roles. As we left the paved road behind and started the steep descent towards Roncesvalles, my knees screamed. Each step excruciating. Elaine took off like a gazelle; jogging, running, with complete joy in her heart. She'd conquered the Pyrenees. That image in my mind of her happiness during that days descent will last till my dying day.
Which I am not! I normally take the suggestion that I am as an insult, but I presume it was said in good faith.fostersail1 said:Spoken like a true engineer!
This sounds awkward. I've never seen anyone go down a moderate hill like that. On some steep or difficult sections, it might happen, but I doubt anyone would be able to run down these anyhow.fostersail1 said:When walking down hill, our body essentially comes to a near stop with each step, our knees absorbing the constant deceleration.
I am not sure what evidence there might be for that. What there appears to be is plenty of evidence that it generates ground reaction forces of two to three times body weight.fostersail1 said:When jogging, our forward momentum is more uniform, smoother.
dougfitz said:This sounds awkward. I've never seen anyone go down a moderate hill like that. On some steep or difficult sections, it might happen, but I doubt anyone would be able to run down these anyhow.fostersail1 said:When walking down hill, our body essentially comes to a near stop with each step, our knees absorbing the constant deceleration.
I am not sure what evidence there might be for that. What there appears to be is plenty of evidence that it generates ground reaction forces of two to three times body weight.fostersail1 said:When jogging, our forward momentum is more uniform, smoother.
dougfitz said:Which I am not! I normally take the suggestion that I am as an insult, but I presume it was said in good faith.fostersail1 said:Spoken like a true engineer!
This sounds awkward. I've never seen anyone go down a moderate hill like that. On some steep or difficult sections, it might happen, but I doubt anyone would be able to run down these anyhow.fostersail1 said:When walking down hill, our body essentially comes to a near stop with each step, our knees absorbing the constant deceleration.
I am not sure what evidence there might be for that. What there appears to be is plenty of evidence that it generates ground reaction forces of two to three times body weight.fostersail1 said:When jogging, our forward momentum is more uniform, smoother.
Hi! I'm not sure I completely agree with this, although I do understand where you're coming from. Being fit and having trained will probably allow you to walk further each day and anticipate your pace and distances more easily.Bama Hiker said:Being fit BEFORE the Camino will allow you to enjoy your experience. Trying to "Get Fit" on the Camino is going to distract from your enjoyment and overall experience.
I no longer run or jog, but I tried to replicate the effect identified in an earlier post on my walks on the weekend.whariwharangi said:When I'm brave enough, or foolish enough, to break into a mild jog on a downhill slope it just feels better, the impact on my knees seems to be smoother.
Both walks were on slopes that varied from slight to being steep enough to have stone or log steps along the trails, with everything in between. There are a couple of places in the Camino that were as steep, but not many. On both times, I walked parts of the track with poles, and others without.fostersail1 said:When walking down hill, our body essentially comes to a near stop with each step, our knees absorbing the constant deceleration.
jpflavin1 said:Yarma:
I am not sure what to suggest you do to prepare for walking a half marathon or more everyday for a month. I am not sure you can. You can take long walks with and without pack. You can work out to build up your shoulders and back but nothing can totally prepare you for the Camino.The Camino is not a walk in the Park.
That said, I believe this walk is very doable for anyone.
My suggestion would be to get yourself good shoes/boots with vibram or similar soles. Make sure they fit and you break them in before you leave. Your feet are very important. Listen to them. If something does not feel right, stop, and take care of them (feet).
Start slowly, I can not emphasize this enough. (let your body adjust) - 30+ days, 20 to 30km's per day.
Pack as light as possible (very few do the first time).
The Camino will dictate the rest. The best thing you can do is to listen to it and your body.
Ultreya,
Joe
Wear footwear that fits; it may be larger, or it may be your regular size. Do not automatically buy one size bigger; one-half size may be enough to accommodate liner socks and quality wool/blend socks. Buy the boots and train in them with the sock combination you plan to use. Boots that are too small are guaranteed to be uncomfortable and give you blisters, but boots that are too large may also cause blisters. Boots should fit, not be a particular size. I buy my regular size and have never had a blister.1. Wear shoes one size bigger then usual
I am with falcon here, but come at the problem this way. Get your camino footwear fitted properly by someone who knows what they are doing in a store with a fitting slope.falcon269 said:. Do not automatically buy one size bigger
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