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Basically what Sabine posted, plus the fact that the newspaper makes a point of stating that the couple did not obey the instructions of the rescuers who had told them to stay put after getting the 911 call.Dang did I put this message in the wrong spot AGAIN! Let's go through this one more time...
Hi.
I am having a difficult time trying to decipher Spanish especially since I know very few words. And my computer has let me down as far as working as my translator.
I'm trying... but in the meantime, could/would you or any one translate this for me. I would like to know why they needed rescuing?
Gracias
Marigold Mama
I don't know about the wrong spot - you have posted twice on this thread, which seems to be the thread you wanted!Dang did I put this message in the wrong spot AGAIN! Let's go through this one more time...
Hi. I am having a difficult time trying to decipher Spanish especially since I know very few words. And my computer has let me down as far as working as my translator.
I'm trying... but in the meantime, could/would you or any one translate this for me. I would like to know why they needed rescuing? Gracias
Marigold Mama
Thank you that helps me a whole lotta.I don't know about the wrong spot - you have posted twice on this thread, which seems to be the thread you wanted!
The article said that they were disoriented (and presumably lost) because of fog. The responders told them to stay where they were, but they walked on and eventually were found.
I'm puzzled by all this ...http://www.lne.es/asturias/2017/08/07/rescatados-peregrinos-perdieron-niebla/2146386.html
Two pilgrims were found by the emergency services .
Desorientated , nervous and cold but in good health.
The pilgrims were well equipped.
Stay safe there.
I'm puzzled by all this ...
And this is exactly why I don't believe in ultralight travel
I'm puzzled by all this ...
And this is exactly why I don't believe in ultralight travel
I wish it had been that nice for us in May. We had much warmer temps that killed us.The lows in the past few days have been 8 and 9. That is insane for August.
That's sounds about right. Weird. The sign is easy seen when you hit the road. It's only about 20 ft away and the trail is easily seen. Sounds more like distracted hikers who never looked at the guide books that tell you to cross the roadAccording to the news they were found in Cabral. So, apparently they were doing Hospiitales and when they got to the road in Alto de la Marta they followed the road (right) instead of crossing it and follow the Camino towards Puerto del Palo (left).
"At 17.51 hours, those affected again contact the emergency service. They say that they have moved a little and indicate that they believed that they are arriving at Bustantigo and Peñafeita." ???!!!.
Did they have a GPS?
I had a cloud come in when I was on top of the Hospitales route, and visibility was nil, when seconds before the weather had been ideal. As the cloud came in I hurried to put my back against the wall of one of the stone ruins to at least be protected on one side.That's sounds about right. Weird. The sign is easy seen when you hit the road. It's only about 20 ft away and the trail is easily seen. Sounds more like distracted hikers who never looked at the guide books that tell you to cross the roadAt least they are safe. I think it's funny that in the picture there is high ceiling and no heavy clouds. And they are wearing shorts. So if they got cold they couldn't put on pants and a warm layer? Hmmm.
Yes, getting disoriented in fog can happen to anyone. Calling for an emergency response hopefully wouldn't be the normal response. A well equipped Pilgrim, would get off of the road and stop. They would have snacks/food, water, sleeping bag or liner (temperature of 9 C (48 F) , raingear, windbreaker, extra socks, whatever for more clothing. They are not going to freeze to death, starve or dehydrate. They were young, presumably in fair health, this is not an emergency to me. An emergency is a matter of possible life or death. To change location after calling for assistance only adds to problem.The article say that "They were well equipped." Fog can be disorienting - could happen to any of us.
I'm puzzled by all this ...
And this is exactly why I don't believe in ultralight travel
Yes, getting disoriented in fog can happen to anyone. Calling for an emergency response hopefully wouldn't be the normal response. A well equipped Pilgrim, would get off of the road and stop. They would have snacks/food, water, sleeping bag or liner (temperature of 9 C (48 F) , raingear, windbreaker, extra socks, whatever for more clothing. They are not going to freeze to death, starve or dehydrate. They were young, presumably in fair health, this is not an emergency to me. An emergency is a matter of possible life or death. To change location after calling for assistance only adds to problem.
Calling for an emergency response in the case of severe weather conditions exposes the emergency responders to the same hazards posed by the conditions.
Any Pilgrim needs to show a bit of self reliance.
Did some research on that route and yes, you are right ... all my research so far has been on the Camino Frances. I'm still saving up to go on my trip. My nephews were scared of mountain fog when they visited us here the first time. Fog can be spooky to city dwellers.The Primitivo is very , very , very different to Camino Frances,.
One is a walk in the park.
They were also well equipped according to the article.
Well...I have been trying to find a Google Maps or GPS track for the Hospitales route. Would be nice to know where I'm going if I encounter a heavy fog, but worst case I guess I would turn around and descend, or if it was that dodgy, pitch tent and wait it out. I guess a guide book is a must for this route.
Glad they got off without any injuries, but why they must have gone up knowing the weather was possibly going to be off. I checked the weather online, on most days, prior to walking.
or GPS track for the Hospitales route.
Any suggestions?
Tia Valeria, I am curious, what alternatives would a guidebook give? I can't think of any once you decide to climb up.Personally we would not walk without a guide book as it gives the alternatives and often safety advice.
You have to decide at the split, and then also if the weather is bad at the road up to Puerto de Palo (from Pola). The alternative is given of walking the road, not the tracks where it is possible to lose the arrows/mojones at the crossings as the track cuts the corners off the zig-zags. Other places also have alternatives and also cycists alternatives. (CSJ guide to the Primitivo.).Tia Valeria, I am curious, what alternatives would a guidebook give? I can't think of any once you decide to climb up.
Thank you for your reply. I appreciate all the help from all you gracious Forum Members.Basically what Sabine posted, plus the fact that the newspaper makes a point of stating that the couple did not obey the instructions of the rescuers who had told them to stay put after getting the 911 call.
Thank you. I appreciate your response and the information from you.I don't know about the wrong spot - you have posted twice on this thread, which seems to be the thread you wanted!
The article said that they were disoriented (and presumably lost) because of fog. The responders told them to stay where they were, but they walked on and eventually were found.
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