- Time of past OR future Camino
- 2021
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Parador Nacional de Santo Domingo de la Calzada, Palacio de Burgos, Monasterio San Zoilo, Hotel Real Colegiata, Parador de Villafranca del Bierzo, Parador Nacional de Monforte de Lemos, Hostal dos Reis Católicos (2 nights) - that’s the kind of old and traditional accommodation that you find along a famous Spanish pilgrimage trail but not along the trails in the Alps where you may have to stay in more modest places.You see hiking Spain is expensive, at least much more than England and France.
Being neither religious or spiritual, but honest, that's how I registered.I’ve always wondered about the people who are registered as “solo cultural” by the Oficina del Peregrino in Santiago ... who are they? Are they people who just want a last sello in their passport? They were 5000 in May 2019 and about 30,000 last year (2018).
So I suppose you didn’t ask for and didn’t get a Compostela?Being neither religious or spiritual, but honest, that's how I registered.
Correct. But I discovered that i was given a Compostela after my first Camino despite not asking for it. I only realized it when I compared the two certificates that I received on my first and second Caminos, and found that they were different. I had assumed that I had received the "welcome" certificate both times.So I suppose you didn’t ask for and didn’t get a Compostela?
I did my 1989 Camino solo for purely cultural reasons. I was living in Spain at the time and passionate about medieval history, culture, and architecture. The Camino seemed ideal for someone with those interests.I’ve always wondered about the people who are registered as “solo cultural” by the Oficina del Peregrino in Santiago ... who are they? Are they people who just want a last sello in their passport? They were 5000 in May 2019 and about 30,000 last year (2018).
WHAAAAT??? I'm from Slovenia, ex-climber and this is just crazy, far out!!! I'll guide you 9 days for 500€ (my fee without your food and accommodation expenses)....
9 days Hiking the Julian Alps in Slovenia - $5,600
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$6400 for nine days = $700+ per day. Very, very pricey.
Worse than the outrageous cost is the fact that the tour group is going to be sequestered for meals and will probably walk together with their guide(s). Chances of interacting with other walkers is thereby greatly diminished. As our POTUS would say, "Very sad!"
They are not selling it as a pilgrimage. They are selling it as walking/hiking plus heavy doses of culture. It’s a Cultural Route ....
1989 must have been a time when contact and interaction with other walkers, today considered by many as an essential characteristic of camino walking (it is feared that the NatGeo travellers might not experience it in the way they could or should!) was minimal or didn’t exist, because overall numbers of pilgrims were so much lower.I did my 1989 Camino solo for purely cultural reasons. I was living in Spain at the time and passionate about medieval history, culture, and architecture
This isn’t the first time that a trip with such an extraordinary price tag, with luxurious accommodation and sections that are part bussing/part walking, turns up on the forum. I often feel compelled to defend the right to coexistence of these travellers but if innermost truth be told I don’t really want to see them on the Francés trails. But I don’t want to see them on Alpine trails either ...That's true. The product is labeled as:
"Spain: Walking the Camino de Santiago"
This isn’t the first time that a trip with such an extraordinary price tag, with luxurious accommodation and sections that are part bussing/part walking, turns up on the forum. I often feel compelled to defend the right to coexistence of these travellers but if innermost truth be told I don’t really want to see them on the Francés trails. But I don’t want to see them on Alpine trails either ...
You should, Kinky...go for it! A great idea!WHAAAAT??? I'm from Slovenia, ex-climber and this is just crazy, far out!!! I'll guide you 9 days for 500€ (my fee without your food and accommodation expenses).
I mean why I don't do this for living??? Stupid, stupid, stupid KinkyOne!!!
I typically like to do my own planning but a KinkyOne Expedition could be fun - it might be hard to sell to the folks at home though. A name change might help;-)WHAAAAT??? I'm from Slovenia, ex-climber and this is just crazy, far out!!! I'll guide you 9 days for 500€ (my fee without your food and accommodation expenses).
I mean why I don't do this for living??? Stupid, stupid, stupid KinkyOne!!!
The PCT is such a young trail - wait until it’s a thousand years old. The thing about the accommodations listed is of course, that they are part and parcel of the history of the pilgrimage to Saint James. I would love to stay in all of them for that reason.Thank goodness there are no Paradors on the Pacific Crest Trail
Kathar1na, you are like a living, breathing, walking history book...and that's a compliment! I've seen you often on other threads too, and yep, it's true!The PCT is such a young trail - wait until it’s a thousand years old. The thing about the accommodations listed is of course, that they are part and parcel of the history of the pilgrimage to Saint James. I would love to stay in all of them for that reason.
Oh stop itKathar1na, you are like a living, breathing, walking history book...and that's a compliment! I've seen you often on other threads too, and yep, it's true!
Not that it matters much and I didn’t check them all but I think that the majority of the Camino Paradors were originally either purpose built pilgrim hostals/hospitals or monasteries who also housed and cared for pilgrims. Royalty contributed to the funds as they believed this was good for their immortal souls.Do we think that the Royalty staying at Paradors had a similar pilgrim experience as a peasant farmer?
At least it’s cheaper than a trip to the Moon.A friend sent me this link. Don’t know what to think. I guess it would be good for those that want a taste but they don’t tell you anywhere that this doesn’t qualify for the Compostela.
Maybe we are getting too close to plain tourism without any spiritual aspect on this one.
Spain Pilgrimage: Walking El Camino de Santiago 2020 | National Geographic Expeditions
0 Days / 0 Nightswww.nationalgeographic.com
So I checked and I’ve changed my mindNot that it matters much and I didn’t check them all but I think that the majority of the Camino Paradors were originally either purpose built pilgrim hostals/hospitals or monasteries who also housed and cared for pilgrims. Royalty contributed to the funds as they believed this was good for their immortal souls.
I have just returned to New Zealand from my third Camino francis inside two years I am addicted. I even have a book about to go to the editors on the subject . The book called God's Cocaine. The addiction of the Camino.. I have told you this so you know squarely what camp I am in. What I want to say is I am worried where the Camino is going. The changes I have seen over only two years. Good luck to all and God bless.A friend sent me this link. Don’t know what to think. I guess it would be good for those that want a taste but they don’t tell you anywhere that this doesn’t qualify for the Compostela.
Maybe we are getting too close to plain tourism without any spiritual aspect on this one.
Spain Pilgrimage: Walking El Camino de Santiago 2020 | National Geographic Expeditions
0 Days / 0 Nightswww.nationalgeographic.com
I disagree KinkyOne tours would be a sellout! However, one could only guess at the clientele that the name could attract. I think walking might be low down on their list of priorities! LOL!I typically like to do my own planning but a KinkyOne Expedition could be fun - it might be hard to sell to the folks at home though. A name change might help;-)
If you would really like to publish that book then I have to correct you on using "Francis" name. That's a route in Italy named after St.Francesco de Assisi.I have just returned to New Zealand from my third Camino francis inside two years I am addicted. I even have a book about to go to the editors on the subject . The book called God's Cocaine. The addiction of the Camino.. I have told you this so you know squarely what camp I am in. What I want to say is I am worried where the Camino is going. The changes I have seen over only two years. Good luck to all and God bless.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, You are indeed @HilariousI disagree KinkyOne tours would be a sellout! However, one could only guess at the clientele that the name could attract. I think walking might be low down on their list of priorities! LOL!
For that a Price....such ancillaries should be free!!And of course this does not include: Airfare, Visas, Alcoholic Beverages, Insurance, Gratuities, Boo-Boo and Blister Care, Earplugs, or Permethrin.
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