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Halfway in you climbed the steepest portion but I measured that asAnd one last tidbit that makes me think I went that way is that when I compare my tracks with someone who describes the walk as not having any special difficulties, it looks the same to me. But someone with better map skills could confirm that.
Sounds like backup here is a good idea, because you never know. People do the darndest things, or tecnology fails, or both.But I can’t imagine that anyone will walk this camino without absolutely excellent map/navigation skills or a GPS.
And one last tidbit that makes me think I went that way is that when I compare my tracks with someone who describes the walk as not having any special difficulties, it looks the same to me.
My apologies. I edited my post to strike out just. I thought the steepest part of the Napoleon was 30% but it is 15% (450m over 3km).That wikiloc track shows 2000 feet of elevation gain, mostly in a mile and a half. Which is no small thing. I don't know what that works out to in terms of slope. But whatever - it's nothing to sneeze at.
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The blue line are your tracks, @peregrina2000 , the green line is the other person.
Halfway in you climbed the steepest portion but I measured that asjust13%.
Edit: apology below.
I'm thinking it must be something else altogether. Because the person described it as not especially difficult. Alan and gyro describe something that was definitely challenging.which would mean that @alansykes and @gyro probably took the more difficult northerly green route?
It would be shorter overall but I am not trying to shorten my overall distance. I am trying to avoid very steep ascents while not straying too far from an established path.Oh! What a good idea.
Or...would it be shorter from Amer - less backtracking?
(From Wikipedia)Olot (Catalan pronunciation: [uˈlɔt]) is the capital city of the comarca of Garrotxa, in the Province of Girona, Catalonia, Spain. The city is known for its natural landscape, including four volcanoes scattered around the city center. The municipality is part of the Zona Volcànica de la Garrotxa Natural Park. Olot is also well known for its cultural activity, with historical art movements like Olot school or factories of religious imagery
BTW. Olot is not a place of interest only to geophiles - it has history and much else, too:
(From Wikipedia)
Lots of information here; it really looks fantastic:
สล็อตเว็บตรง ฝากถอนไม่มีขั้นต่ำ สล็อตทรูวอเลท ใหม่ล่าสุด 2023
สล็อตเว็บตรง ผู้ให้บริการ เว็บสล็อต ถูกกฎหมาย เข้าไปเลือกวางเดิมพัน สล็อตแตกง่าย แตกจริง ได้อย่างปลอดภัย ทำให้นักพนันสามารถสร้างกำไรwww.catalonia-valencia.com
To get there, just keep going in the Via Verde from Sant Esteve. There look like there are alternatives that are more adventurous, but that VV is gorgeous, and most expedient. It's about 5km from SEdB.
Sabine, I would trust your menu intuition anywhere. And yes...it does look nice! More than nice - that salad on their landing page looks like heaven.11.90 € for a menu del dia
Yum, strawberry salad.Sabine, I would trust your menu intuition anywhere. And yes...it does look nice! More than nice - that salad on their landing page looks like heaven.
Olot is a wonderful place. You could easily spend several days here taking day hikes.BTW. Olot is not a place of interest only to geophiles - it has history and much else, too:
(From Wikipedia)
Lots of information here; it really looks fantastic:
สล็อตเว็บตรง ฝากถอนไม่มีขั้นต่ำ สล็อตทรูวอเลท ใหม่ล่าสุด 2023
สล็อตเว็บตรง ผู้ให้บริการ เว็บสล็อต ถูกกฎหมาย เข้าไปเลือกวางเดิมพัน สล็อตแตกง่าย แตกจริง ได้อย่างปลอดภัย ทำให้นักพนันสามารถสร้างกำไรwww.catalonia-valencia.com
To get there, just keep going in the Via Verde from Sant Esteve. There look like there are alternatives that are more adventurous, but that VV is gorgeous, and most expedient. It's about 5km from SEdB.
Why not? We're meandering all over the countryside, so what's a few days? What was your favorite thing, Laurie?You could easily spend several days here taking day hikes.
Then getting from Rupit to l'Esquirol is a zig-zaggy due west - another 12 -12.5km, with road or a number of off-road options.It is less steep than the recommended route, it goes to Rupit rather than L'Esquirol, is off-road, has a lunch stop and is doable in a Doug day. It is about 17-18klms long.
Ha ha ha, that was back in the early 70s and I have no specific info to give. But my overall memory of traveling through this entire area is one of many beautiful hikes, some hard ascents, great picnics at the top, and lots of charming villages.What was your favorite thing, Laurie?
Once you get to Rupit and you feel shortchanged on walking there is a loop trail that you can take that is described at the link below. The webpage also has some pictures. It is written in Catalan but we all know that the Chrome browser can translate.This route is probably now my preferred route. It is less steep than the recommended route, it goes to Rupit rather than L'Esquirol, is off-road, has a lunch stop and is doable in a Doug day. It is about 17-18klms long.
Puig of the castle of the Bastida
It is a quiet and gentle itinerary that begins with the beautiful views of the village of Rupit and Agullola before arriving on the hill of the castle of La Bastida and back you pass in the middle of a large pine forest and next to the stately homes of La Fontana and El Corriol.
It is done quietly in a little less than 2 hours, there are about 6.5 km to make the whole lap and the difference in level is about 160 m.
Thanks, Rick. Your post got me looking around more in Rupit, rather than being so focused on route-finding. There's quite a bit up there worth exploring:There is also the Ermita de Santa Magdalena. The pictures on the Google Maps page also show the surrounding countryside.
From:XII romanesque church converted into lodging. Located in the famous medieval village of Rupit, in the woods and over a cliff. Accommodation for individuals and groups in nature, with local food and affordable prices. Ideal for meditation and communion with nature. 120m waterfall, 300 km of BTT trails, meditation hall. Perfect to feel the more authentic and traditional heart of Catalonia.
Looks great but according to their website, https://www.santjoandefabregues.com/restaurant/ they have not yet completed construction of the accommodation. The restaurant part looks great though and it looks like they feature that fantastic Catalan burnt creme dish!Sant Joan de Fabregues - Rupit) is basically in the center of town. It's been turned into a restaurant and place to stay:
From:
RESTAURANT LA RECTORIA DE SANT JOAN DE FABREGUES - RUPIT - Prices & Hostel Reviews (Spain)
Book Restaurant La Rectoria de Sant Joan de Fabregues - Rupit, Rupit on Tripadvisor: See traveler reviews, 7 candid photos, and great deals for Restaurant La Rectoria de Sant Joan de Fabregues - Rupit, ranked #3 of 4 specialty lodging in Rupit and rated 4.5 of 5 at Tripadvisor.www.tripadvisor.com
In addition to the 17th c. Santa Magdalena, there's some romanesque as well, one of which (Sant Joan de Fabregues - Rupit) is basically in the center of town. It's been turned into a restaurant
Solution is to stop in Girona on your way to Llançá.In the "not all who wander are lost" category:
Stop the presses, and hold onto your napolitanas.
I have a radical suggestion that may horrify the purists and anyone who is fond of Girona.
But here goes:
[Ducks, runs, and hides...]
Snap! Brilliant. Why didn't I think of that?Solution is to stop in Girona on your way to Llançá.
Hmm, when I was exploring a possible route last year and before I had any "official" maps I naturally explored (virtually) this route but became a bit lost without an overall destination and any idea of the routes that I would need to connect to. Now that you raise it again then I would certainly like to explore it.In the "not all who wander are lost" category:
Stop the presses, and hold onto your napolitanas.
I have a radical suggestion that may horrify the purists and anyone who is fond of Girona.
But here goes:
[Ducks, runs, and hides...]
If you want to come this way, after visiting Olot, there is a not-so-circuitous option.
Simply go direct from Figueres to Olot and then down to the d'En Bas Valley. It's 59.7 km from Figueres to Sant Esteve d'en Bas:
Figueres-Navata 10.5km
Navata-Pont de Besalu 16.8 km
Pont de Besalu-Castellfollit de la Roca 14.9 km
Castellfollit de la Roca-Olot 7.7 km
Olot-Sant Esteve d'en Bas 9.8 km
As opposed to Figueres-Girona-Sant Esteve-Olot-Sant Esteve, which weighs in at 117.5km
It takes you straight through all that magnigicent volcanic landscape, without backtracking. And holey-moley: you will walk over this!!
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And through this!
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That bridge photo came from a very nice article, and was the germ of this idea:
La Garrotxa: Land of Volcanoes
La Garrotxa is arguably one of the most beautiful regions in Catalunya. Located among the foothills of the Pyrenees in the province of Girona, this sparsely populated, fertile land is filled with high ridges, deep valleys, rivers and forests...www.barcelona-metropolitan.com
Wow wow wow. I'm going.
Here are the maps:
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Sure! Happy to. But which one?To save me some time, would you please post your map so that I can import it into my mapping tool. GPX, KML or KMZ are all fine if emailing or KMZ if you use this thread (thanks).
I walked on the Camí from L'Esquirol to a spot about 8 km before Vic. At that spot there was a sign for the PR-C40, which is a local trail to the monastery of Sant Pere. First, the route goes through the very nice little town of Tanyoles with its pretty romanesqe church.
In fact, it would be easy to slice a few kms off this walk, because there was a sign pointing the way to the center of Tanyoles long before I got on the PR-C40. But this was such a nice walk, I wouldn't work hard to shorten it. From Tanyoles, the trail was rugged and overgrown in some spots, but all in all it was amazing.
My first surprise was several neolithic sites from about 2500 BC. One was a sacrificial altar (Pedra del Sacrifici) and the other was a burial ground (you can see a human figure carved in the rock). They were just sitting there out in the open in the middle of the woods. I was impressed. A totally unexpected bonus.
According to Google, Peak visiting time looks to be at noon, with the afternoon being equally quiet.When @peregrina2000 suggests a detour it's usually worth the extra effort. So it was this year with Sant Pere de Casserres, a largely 11th century Benedictine monastery perched high up on a narrow peninsular over a loop where the Ter River turns into the Sau reservoir. It's not easy to get to (the path is narrow and sometimes steep and overgrown) and it's not near anywhere - ~10km off from Roda de Ter on the camino, and c20km back to it at Vic - but it is serenely lovely, both in its position and its architecture. And of course, arriving at opening time of 10am, I had the place entirely to myself, other than the custodian and an eagle overhead.
I walked on the Camí from L'Esquirol to a spot about 8 km before Vic. At that spot there was a sign for the PR-C40, which is a local trail to the monastery of Sant Pere. First, the route goes through the very nice little town of Tanyoles with its pretty romanesqe church.
In fact, it would be easy to slice a few kms off this walk, because there was a sign pointing the way to the center of Tanyoles long before I got on the PR-C40. But this was such a nice walk, I wouldn't work hard to shorten it. From Tanyoles, the trail was rugged and overgrown in some spots, but all in all it was amazing.
My first surprise was several neolithic sites from about 2500 BC. One was a sacrificial altar (Pedra del Sacrifici) and the other was a burial ground (you can see a human figure carved in the rock). They were just sitting there out in the open in the middle of the woods. I was impressed. A totally unexpected bonus.
According to Google, Peak visiting time looks to be at noon, with the afternoon being equally quiet.When @peregrina2000 suggests a detour it's usually worth the extra effort. So it was this year with Sant Pere de Casserres, a largely 11th century Benedictine monastery perched high up on a narrow peninsular over a loop where the Ter River turns into the Sau reservoir. It's not easy to get to (the path is narrow and sometimes steep and overgrown) and it's not near anywhere - ~10km off from Roda de Ter on the camino, and c20km back to it at Vic - but it is serenely lovely, both in its position and its architecture. And of course, arriving at opening time of 10am, I had the place entirely to myself, other than the custodian and an eagle overhead.
Count us in!@VNwalking and others will undoubtedly be visiting the Romanesque, Gothic Sant Vincenç de Besalú as it is rated as a national treasure.
Yay!Count us in!
It is astonishing what surprises this thread is uncovering.⁹Places to see in Besalú, there is Circusland, a circus museum at Plaça del Prat de Sant Pere, 15, 17850 and on the web at https://circusland.org/ , this gets great reviews.
Of course, as @VNwalking already pictured and also in Besalú is the stunning Pont de Besalú. There is also a restored Ritual Jewish Bath and a (unrestored) medieval synagogue, both at Sinagoga de Besalú.
@VNwalking and others will undoubtedly be visiting the Romanesque, Gothic Sant Vincenç de Besalú as it is rated as a national treasure. Nearby is the monastery Sant Pere founded in 977 by Count Besalú (Wilfred the Hairy).
All of the routes I describe here join at Montserrat, and from there you can follow the Camino Catalán, which itself has two options, one through Zaragoza (which joins the Frencés in Logroño, I believe) and one more northerly through Huesca and San Juan de la Peña (which joins the Aragonés in Santa Cilia de Jaca).
First, the Cami de Rodes. It begins in the Monastery of Sant Quirze de Colera and comes over the French border at Coll de Banyuls. It continues on to the Monastery of Sant Pere de Rodes. It continues through Paul, Vilajuiga and Vilabertran. There it joins up with the so-called Via Augusta. This route, the Via Agusta continues till Girona.
Then there is the Camino de Coll de Banyuls. This camino is not marked between from Coll de Banyuls to the monastery of Sant Quirze de Colera. But from Sant Quirze de Colera this route is marked until Rabós de l'Empordá and Perelada. At that spot it joins with the Cami de Rodes, and the two continue as one towards Vilabertran and Girona.
So, the Cami de Rodes and the Camino de Coll de Banyuls take slightly different routes, and join up in Perelada and then both go to Girona.
In Girona, the Via Agusta continues towards Fornells de la Selva, Riudellots, Mallorquines, until reaching Sant Celoni, Granolleres, Sabadell, Terrasa, and finally Montserrat. This route is not yet marked.
Third is the Ruta del Ripollés. This camino begins in Coll d'Ares which is on the French border. It continues towards Molló, Camprodón, Ripoll, Roda de Ter, and Vic. From Vic, the route reaches Montserrat going through L'Estany and Navarcles. No guide yet and marking is needed before Vic.
Fourth, the Generalitat (the Catalan regional government) has picked bits and pieces of those routes to come up with what it called the Cami St. Jaume. It starts on the coast near the border, in Port de la Selva/Llanca, and then goes to Sant Pery de Rodes. It goes then to Girona (tracking the Cami de Rodes), where it gets to the Via Augusta. But, instead of continuing on the Via Augusta, it hooks up back to the north, on a route it has invented, until it gets to Roda de Ter, which is on the Ruta de Ripollés. It then stays with that historic route through L'Estany, Navarcles, Manresa, till it reaches Montserrat.
Laurie, I know you eventually threw your hands up in despair of finding any clarity about the spaghetti of routes hereabouts. And I actually don't mean to start a discussion of the merits of each of these routes again - but it puzzles me that our direct route from Figueres to Olot does not seem to figure in any of the historic ones. The Ruta del Ripollés (in bold above in the first quote) is close, and goes through Vic, but from another direction altogether.But one thing I can say is that any route that goes through Girona AND Vic is apparently not a historical camino (not that the FRRP book would be) but rather a concoction that puts together two nice destinations!
According to my friend there are four historical routes going through Perpignan and into Catalunya. Here they are:
Font Romeu going through Puigcerda
Coll d'Ares-Mollo (which is what I described above as the Ruta del Ripolles)
Coll de Panissars - La Jonquera (called the Via Augusta)
Coll de Banyuls (Via Heraclea and Cami de Rodes)
But now I am even more confused because this Coll de Panissars route is yet another one I hadn't talked about in my first post.
With all these riding schools, maybe we could actually ride this camino? Places to board horses for the night are usually much scarcer than they seem to be hereabouts. Joking, but it would be nice to be able to do. (Very off topic, but I went down an equine-sized rabbit hole and found this wonderful option of a roundtrip on horseback from Covarrubias on the Ruta El Cid. A nice side trip from Burgos...)Can Genassa, a riding school (again).
Having seen pilgrims walking with a donkey carrying their gear, I had thought of getting one so that my darling could walk longer stages without a backpack (which we did in 2018 on five stages of the Norte thanks to Correos and their paq mochila). And on the really long stages, she could ride the donkey.With all these riding schools, maybe we could actually ride this camino?
AJGuillaume,Having seen pilgrims walking with a donkey carrying their gear, I had thought of getting one so that my darling could walk longer stages without a backpack (which we did in 2018 on five stages of the Norte thanks to Correos and their paq mochila). And on the really long stages, she could ride the donkey.
I know how to organise it in France, but I wouldn't know in Spain.
There is another thread where two pilgrims from outside Europe with one weeks experience of being with a donkey were asking about buying or hiring a donkey to walk the Camino Frances. There is some information there.Having seen pilgrims walking with a donkey carrying their gear, I had thought of getting one so that my darling could walk longer stages without a backpack (which we did in 2018 on five stages of the Norte thanks to Correos and their paq mochila). And on the really long stages, she could ride the donkey.
I know how to organise it in France, but I wouldn't know in Spain.
We have no experience whatsoever with equidae, @Doughnut NZ . Which is why I wouldn't venture out there with a donkey unless I had proper tutoring.You haven't mentioned if you or your wife have any experience with Equidae. If you have strong experience then this is a possibility. Without strong experience of working with and caring for horses/donkeys then I suspect that a donkey over any real distance would add more problems than it solved.
With or without a hiking cart, I have -sometimes- been a donkeyPossibly a simpler option would be a hiking cart that you could pull (you become the donkey) for your backpacks.
That earliest riding school/accommodation place I mentioned (the one on the way to Vic http://www.panorama-trails.com/) has a number of 6-7+ day treks on offer in this region, both guided and self guided. If they don't already have a trek along this route then they may be prepared to put one together but it probably won't be cheap.With all these riding schools, maybe we could actually ride this camino? Places to board horses for the night are usually much scarcer than they seem to be hereabouts. Joking, but it would be nice to be able to do. (Very off topic, but I went down an equine-sized rabbit hole and found this wonderful option of a roundtrip on horseback from Covarrubias on the Ruta El Cid. A nice side trip from Burgos...)
Yup. No doubt. This wouldn't be either; it turns out that while some of us repeatedly go to Spain to walk, others are repeatedly going to ride! Who knew? My dressage days are many decades in the rear view mirror, but I can very well imagine how much fun this would be.If they don't already have a trek along this route then they may be prepared to put one together but it probably won't be cheap.
Mucho dinero!Yup. No doubt. This wouldn't be either; it turns out that while some of us repeatedly go to Spain to walk, others are repeatedly going to ride! Who knew? My dressage days are many decades in the rear view mirror, but I can very well imagine how much fun this would be.
Yeah. I didn't even get curious enough to check, assuming it'd be several caminos-worth of dinero, flights and all.Mucho dinero!
Yesterday we got a "Welcome Back to the World" catalog for Viking's river cruises. 10 days for "Portugal's River of Gold". Two days in Lisbon, transport to Porto and a day there, then cruising up and then down the Douro with some land excursions. You can extend your tour by two nights to visit Braga and SdC.Mucho dinero!
VN,Before we move on, here is something of interest at the very beginning.
So if you want to take a day or so in Llança to get over jetlag, this would be a fun diversion that would fully ground you in a vivid experience of place.Fragrance Maker Dares to Sniff ‘What Life Really Smells Like’
Crafting scents that demand a brave nose, and leading smelling tours through a landscape in Catalonia painted by Dalí, an evangelist of odor urges people to catch a whiff of the “sublime.”www.nytimes.com
Yes, exactly. Which is why I thought it would be a very nice camino warm-up.Within this NYT account the flavor of the tea favored at the nearby monastery of Sant Pere de Rodes is mentioned; thus another link in your ever growing virtual chain.
I am an old IBM Systems programmer, I grew up on overnights and strong coffee. Thanks for your concern though. I wanted to get this thread moving again so we can finish it and move on.Doug, thanks for making these lists. You are going above and beyond. IT'S 1:30 AM IN AUCKLAND. Go to bed.
I’ll admit I always thought cruises were silly. Then during a tour of Egypt part of the trip was an Ambercrombie and Kent cruise, small ship with about a dozen cabins but because of terrorism, there were less than a dozen passengers including our tour guide. Something to be said for chilled hibiscus tea and an ice cold wash cloth handed to you as you reboard, and towels turned into swans in your cabinYesterday we got a "Welcome Back to the World" catalog for Viking's river cruises. 10 days for "Portugal's River of Gold". Two days in Lisbon, transport to Porto and a day there, then cruising up and then down the Douro with some land excursions. You can extend your tour by two nights to visit Braga and SdC.
10 days from $3,300 US and SdC extension from $650. So something like $300/day.
I'll walk, thank you.
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I haven't, but hey - I'm not throwing any bocadillos at anyone.et he who’s never stayed in a parador cast the first bocadillo
With a short day we have time to explore. Any other recommendations?The road down to Vic from Sant Pere de Casserres was not exciting, but once down in the fertile plain it was fun to see the farmers putting the land to bed for winter, with one or two late harvests - a field of maize, and some sunflowers - still being gathered in.
Vic must be a fun town usually, but Saturday night's paseo, with all the bars and restaurants closed, was a very subdued affair.
The episcopal museum is such a treat, with the soaring romanesque Tower of the cathedral to guide you there. Relatively small, so you have a chance to look at the masterpieces thoroughly, rather than rushing past and getting what I call "museum fatigue" when you see so much stuff you can't really absorb it.
Really? Were I to judge by recent popular threads the average pilgrim is looking to book a parador while walking from the shower naked except a small towel over their head and toe socks, while next to a backpack filled with sleep sack, edibles, and a frying pan.I haven't, but hey - I'm not throwing any bocadillos at anyone.
I detour for every giant ball of string on Route 66, and pretty much anything old, spiritual, or funny off the Camino. Could we see the temple and ride in a balloon? I occasionally see them flying overhead here but never land, although a British Special Forces sgt fell though a neighbor’s roof a month or so ago when his parachute failed to openOh! A Roman Temple! Nice find, @Smallest_Sparrow .
One thing I wonder about is the sand surface of the Plaza. Is it used for horses? Dr. Google is not much help, but I don't have the time to go down a rabbit hole.
That would make sense, I’ll try to find out. Of course my first thought wasn’t horses, it was beach volleyball tournaments. My SoCal childhood is showingOne thing I wonder about is the sand surface of the Plaza. Is it used for horses?
Most popular answer on the internet is “playground for children”; some mentioned the market but stalls can be set up on stone as well as sand;the one I found most reasonable was “holdover from when live animals were in the market”.That would make sense, I’ll try to find out. Of course my first thought wasn’t horses, it was beach volleyball tournaments. My SoCal childhood is showing
If I were to invent a story for this I would say that the sand was there from the old days before they started using bull rings. Bull fighting is now illegal in Catalonia.One thing I wonder about is the sand surface of the Plaza. Is it used for horses? Dr. Google is not much help, but I don't have the time to go down a rabbit hole.
This makes an interesting Rorschach.If I were to invent a story for this I would say that the sand was there from the old days before they started using bull rings. Bull fighting is now illegal in Catalonia.
Based on the location of the temple, I was either at the El Temple Coffee and Bar or the 80s Spirit Vic. I am not sure if their names are in English or if Googlemaps translates them. I am sorry not to be able to help with a restaurant recommendation. I had a few tapas at the outdoor table with wine served from what is probably my favorite wine bottle label ever. It is priorat, which is a very strong, high alcohol Catalán wine, so be careful.4 min walk from the Placa Major (where hopefully we find a market or HOT AIR BALLOONS!!!) to the temple. Several restaurants around there…until we hear which one @peregrina2000 recommends I vote Mediterranean View attachment 106824
Some of these suggestions sound great, unfortunately, according to Google the restaurant Moira is permanently closed.The Top 10 Things To See And Do In Vic Spain
Read our guide to what to do and see in Vic the Catalan town renowned for its cured meats.theculturetrip.com
In the immediate vicinity of the Roman Temple is Cerveseria Dickens. Any pub named after Dickens that also serves Guinness is a must visit for me.Straight from the official site of turismedevic. Translated by the unofficial peregrina2000.
Why is there sand in the Plaza Mayor?
The central part of the Plaza Mayor has never been asphalted. The reasons may be serveral, because in this space and over time a large number of activities has taken place — bullfights, spectacles, races, concerts. Probably the most unlikely reason given is that it’s because the market has taken place here since medieval times. Whatever the reason, today we maintain the plaza’s condition because of the tradition, because it is one of its most typical features.
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And yes, whoever mentioned the Roman temple. After a wonderful visit to the medieval art museum — do not miss this — I had a long rest in a café right next to the columns. Very nice.
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My vote is LA CREPERIA4 min walk from the Placa Major (where hopefully we find a market or HOT AIR BALLOONS!!!) to the temple. Several restaurants around there…until we hear which one @peregrina2000 recommends I vote Mediterranean View attachment 106824
It’s beginning to look like we may not be catching that hot air balloon ride…oh well, next timeMy vote is LA CREPERIA
It’s a good thing I spent so much time walking around the museumJust off the town square is a bakery that specializes in "baby" cupcakes that are large and look more like muffins called Cal Tuset. See https://www.caltuset.com/ that gets a good rating on G Maps.
What about cafeteria el centre?There is a children's sandpit in one corner of the Plaça Mayo. Unfortunately I couldn't find any cafes bordering the square with a decent rating on G Maps, best get our coffee elsewhere.
Well spotted, I missed that in my rush to the bridge, well worth a stop. Although one of the reviews mentions that it is expensive.What about cafeteria el centre?
I’ll follow you. It took me two weeks to figure out how to get what I wanted to eat.Well spotted, I missed that in my rush to the bridge, well worth a stop. Although one of the reviews mentions that it is expensive.
Me too. I'm hoping @SabineP can join us, as she is the fabulousfoodwhisperer.I vote Mediterranean
Likewise. No worties. We can make ourselves scarce.I’m not good in crowds so expect me to be out of sorts
Spectacular. Those monks knew a good spot when they saw it. Thank God no-one has figured out how to construct a zipline over the river.I saw this picture of the San Pere monastery— how gorgeous is that site?
yet.Spectacular. Those monks knew a good spot when they saw it. Thank God no-one has figured out how to construct a zipline over the river.
Vegetarian!? Oh boy!
Me too. I'm hoping @SabineP can join us, as she is the fabulousfoodwhisperer.
And of course, anything from a bakery. We can pick up some bread for a quick getaway in the morning if nothing else.
Likewise. No worties. We can make ourselves scarce.
Spectacular. Those monks knew a good spot when they saw it. Thank God no-one has figured out how to construct a zipline over the river.
Heck, I even like bad ones. (Just so long as there is no pineapple.Who can resist a decent pizza?
L'Estany has one reportedly fabulous restaurant, Ca La Tona, where I had a long cold drink sitting outside on the patio, and one beautiful little romanesque church and cloister, Santa María L'Estany
I have to say, Laurie's photos look really special.There is an apt. available for rent, it's pricey for one but would be great for a group of four. http://www.monestirestany.cat/castellano/alojamiento-monestir-santa-maria-estany.htm
You have the gratitude of slow walkers, @VNwalking !So Vic-Manresa can be done in 2 long or 3 shorter days. I'll post the longer days, but you should know shorter is completely possible!
I haven't been contributing to this as much as I would like because for most of the year my gateway to the WWW has been only my smartphone.Using google earth I think we’re having tapas,
and some will be getting drunk at el temple cafe and bar.
But I discovered something fun and I’m too unskilled to link it (where’s @Rick of Rick and Peg when I need him): if you put Vic on google earth and go to the museum you can walk around in it. So that’s where I will be for awhile.
edit: actually I think I was in google maps but I just went to google earth and there also. Free admission
Well if I could stumble into it I imagine everyone else has managed. I thought google maps had a better tour than google earth but I had fun with both even if I couldn’t find the dot to tell me what was in front of me. I had fun guessing the saints based on emblems and without a legend I graded myself 100%. I’m really glad I did all that virtual walking in the museum before @Doughnut NZ took us through so many excellent restaurants, bars, and cafes.Commenting further on my post just above, I did do some checking to see if I, or anyone, could post a URL directly to one of the pictures shown in the "Streetview & 360" category shown by Google Maps. It is much more difficult for me to explore this in depth on my smartphone than a PC but after doing my half-hearted check I think that you cannot. Once you get to a place via the maps.app.goo.gl link I think the rest of the clicking is handed by JavaScript.
So it would have been nice if I could have posted a link to the 360 degree streetview-like tour of the museum the @Smallest_Sparrowentioned I don't think it is possible. You've got to supply an awful amount of instructions and directions.
As an aside, Google has an interface to Streetview that allows someone to create a link to show a picture that their streetview cameras has gathered. You can supply location coordinates, direction and such in a URL to link to or display the picture. I used this in the past on the forum but Google now requires that what amounts to a license be included also. Essentially this keeps the picture from being free, the license holder may have to pay for the view. I don't like this but I can't say it isn't fair.
The first couple of paragraphs in the introduction in this article, the picture and its caption shows how this Streetview feature works.
Day 10 Vic - Santa María d'Oló (30.5 km)
Santa Eulalia de Riuprimer (7.5km) is the first potential breakfast stop for early risers.
Cal Sabata http://calsabata.com/ca/casa-rural-preu is another possibility in L'Estany. It consists of three houses, one house is for two people only. One double bed with own bathroom. They advertise a weekend rate of E100 or E250 for a week and so they are not geared for overnight stays but they are worth a try, especially out of season and during the week.L'Estany is a good stopping place for a shorter day, at 19.9 km. It sounds like a very nice stopping place, but seems to have limited options for accommodation:
Santa María d'Oló is a few km off the camino, 8.3km farther on. It significantly shortens what would otherwise be a monster day into Manresa, if you are walking between Vic and Manresa in 2 days.
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