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tamtamplin said:it seems the shorter time guys are more concerned about comfort, directions, and quite specific operational stuff
and that the longer haul guys speak generally about matters non-material.
KiwiNomad06 said:I don't think having a lot of questions about the basics before you start means you are going to have a less meaningful experience when you walk. And I don't think you have to walk a 'long way' to have a meaningful experience either. Some of those who walk from Sarria do it with an intense sense of purpose.
Margaret
tamtamplin said:like there seems to be this tipping point when a hard physical walk transmutes into a matter of the heart
PilgrimChris said:A 'camino' means a 'way' as in Camino de Santiago - the Way of St. James.
It does not mean to walk the physical route St. James walked to Compostela.
Thank you Ivarivar said:...let's stay on topic... criticizing posts done by others is not really useful or does not really help anyone.
The last two posts has been deleted..
Buen Camino!
Ivar
falcon269 said:I hope all the moderators think that I am being a good boy...
PilgrimChris said:Those who have walked already know something about the 'material' equipment needed and can concentrate more on the 'spiritual' thoughts and feelings they gained along the way afterwards.
Those who have not walked these kind of distances before are going to be more concerned about material things and places to stay, equipment etc. Their 'spiritual equipment' will become know to them as they walk
Caminando said:Not sure if I entirely agree with this Chris ... It could be though, that when you walk the camino that you will confirm your views and offer your thoughts?
Ultreia!
daesdaemar said:I think there's too much brain-exercising going on here. A "camino" within the context of this forum is a walk to Santiago for spiritual/religious/cultural reasons. It's that simple and only one's motivations make it complex.
And I would add - more time to accumulate more friends and a Camino family if you want one. . Lots of people seem to meet their Camino family in the first stages after SJPDP. I wasnt looking to find one, but it seems that's what I needed. Im so glad I did, they enriched my experience hugely.All I can think of were the wild and crazy emotional swings. Moments of elation and exuberance; moments of intense spiritual beauty; moments of mundane laundry; and moments of mundane chores become ritual and rite of pilgrim. Oh and moments of whiny, self-centred self pity (not my prettiest moments!)
The difference between the long and short pilgrim seems to be a simple one: more time to accumulate more moments.
The right person in the right combination of situations probably will discover a deeper spiritual meaning. And I wouldn’t be surprised if others fell out of it.
I met several multi -year walkers. Their experience was different . Not less. Not more. Different. I Alain met some people early and ran into them at the end . They had changed-and I would guess if I checked in now, their perspective changed again.
I’ve also met (here and on the Camino) that we’re doing a “short” Camino, that involve more sacrifice, commitment and reward than I ever will.
Forgive typos-I am using a phone-and that is another thread!
imho
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ive sensed that the type of questions asked by long-haul pilgrims differ from those asked by short distance trekkers
? why is this
? is this so
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it seems the shorter time guys are more concerned about comfort, directions, and quite specific operational stuff
and that the longer haul guys speak generally about matters non-material
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like there seems to be this tipping point when a hard physical walk transmutes into a matter of the heart
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? is it possible that this point can be identified - ? if so how many days does it take before this experience can start happening
Its worth remembering Chris, that it was never claimed that St James walked a 'physical route' to Compostela or to any other place.
He was alleged to have floated in a boat which landed in Padron
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