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The risk is to them (the unvaccinated) There isn't enough known yet and the vaccination doesn't stop you contracting it...or passing it on.I'm planning to walk this September 2021 provided I'm fully vaccinated. If you are fully vaccinated and sleeping in an albergue with some people who are not vaccinated, where is the risk? Surely you will not get Covid if you are fully vaccinated?
I agree and can't say one way or the other as there are still too many unknowns imo to have complete confidence that these experimental vaccine's will accomplish all they hope to do.The risk is to them (the unvaccinated) There isn't enough known yet and the vaccination doesn't stop you contracting it...or passing it on.
The risk is that vaccination reduces your chance of hospitalisation, ventilation or death from Covid but DOES NOT protect you completely from getting it NOR PASSING IT ON. Success rates for prevention will take some years to establish , as will transmissibility between vaccinated and non vaccinated. We do not know how long till antibodies from vaccines wear off, nor how protective one vaccine will be against multiple variants. We know very little in fact. The vaccines are very helpful but Covid will remain with us from now on, in one form or another.I'm planning to walk this September 2021 provided I'm fully vaccinated. If you are fully vaccinated and sleeping in an albergue with some people who are not vaccinated, where is the risk? Surely you will not get Covid if you are fully vaccinated?
I will wait until it is safe, but am not happy about it.I am happy to wait till it is safe.
There a lot of wisdom in your comments!Easy answer. No.
And maybe not even in 2022.
It's going to take a while for vaccinations to be rolled out, for their effectiveness to be fully understood and for the implications on travel and the Camino to be fully tested in reality.
There are sure to be some backwards steps a long the way.
I'm not a pessimist. Quite the opposite in fact. But also a realist.
For example, the full vaccine rollout here in Australia will probably not be completed till the end of 2021.
And I'm sure many countries will be far later than that.
I am happy to wait till it is safe.
I will be heading out on one of the Caminos in September. I am vaccinated, I have faith and feel that the lockdowns have damaged many very deeply. I am also a nurse practitioner working daily since this Covid popped up. I am also not wearing a mask while outsideAssuming most of us flying will be vaccinated: If caminos opens up in the late summer or fall, how likely are you to walk in 21? Will you, knowing that a number of peregrinos sharing the room in the albergue may not be vaccinated, still sleep in the same room? If we do not reach herd immunity, how safe would it be to share sleeping quarters with non vaccinated folks? For the sake of everyone , should those sharing a common room be required to show proof of vaccination. I know this may not be a popular idea with some...
Covid and the many ensuing lockdowns have emotionally, and for many financially, damaged us all in one way or another.I will be heading out on one of the Caminos in September. I am vaccinated, I have faith and feel that the lockdowns have damaged many very deeply. I am also a nurse practitioner working daily since this Covid popped up. I am also not wearing a mask while outside
In a month time I will have had my 2 vaccinations ( pfizer). I am planning to walk from Le Puy en Velay to Irun . I intended to go in may or june. I fear that that will not be impossible because of measures of the french government. I expect that during the summer months countries will open up. I would gladly take the risk of sleeping in anAssuming most of us flying will be vaccinated: If caminos opens up in the late summer or fall, how likely are you to walk in 21? Will you, knowing that a number of peregrinos sharing the room in the albergue may not be vaccinated, still sleep in the same room? If we do not reach herd immunity, how safe would it be to share sleeping quarters with non vaccinated folks? For the sake of everyone , should those sharing a common room be required to show proof of vaccination. I know this may not be a popular idea with some...
I wish you well, Arn!My plan is to walk in late August!
The vaccination may not stop you getting covid, only that if you do get it it may not be as serious. Also there is no proof yet that the vaccination stops you from carrying the virus and spreading it. So much has been made very plain in briefings. Personally no plans until 2022, and only then if the science says it is reasonably safe to do so.I'm planning to walk this September 2021 provided I'm fully vaccinated. If you are fully vaccinated and sleeping in an albergue with some people who are not vaccinated, where is the risk? Surely you will not get Covid if you are fully vaccinated?
Yes. We walked the Via Francigena last July to October and stayed in some dormitories in Italy. Just followed standard covid rules.Assuming most of us flying will be vaccinated: If caminos opens up in the late summer or fall, how likely are you to walk in 21? Will you, knowing that a number of peregrinos sharing the room in the albergue may not be vaccinated, still sleep in the same room? If we do not reach herd immunity, how safe would it be to share sleeping quarters with non vaccinated folks? For the sake of everyone , should those sharing a common room be required to show proof of vaccination. I know this may not be a popular idea with some...
Being a physician, I diligently follow the Covid news. Unfortunately, there are already reports of small numbers of people who have been fully vaccinated who have acquired the disease. The vaccines are not 100% effective. In those affected, the disease appears to be mild, and perhaps more importantly, they are contagious.I'm planning to walk this September 2021 provided I'm fully vaccinated. If you are fully vaccinated and sleeping in an albergue with some people who are not vaccinated, where is the risk? Surely you will not get Covid if you are fully vaccinated?
Exactly.I will sleep in an albergue when all of the below are true:
- I have the time available to walk a Camino
- Both my own country and Spain are not saying travel is a bad idea
- I have both doses of the vaccine
Unfortunately there are 2 problems here, and they are related to a third that I will list as 2bI'm planning to walk this September 2021 provided I'm fully vaccinated. If you are fully vaccinated and sleeping in an albergue with some people who are not vaccinated, where is the risk? Surely you will not get Covid if you are fully vaccinated?
My main concern with regards to travel in Spain has always been what danger I might be to others. I expect to be fully vaccinated by sometime this summer. As soon as I am, I shall be looking for information as to whether Spain is open to pilgrims. If it is, I shall go in September, to walk the Levante to the VdlP in Zamora, to the Sanabres, and on to Santiago. Most of the albergues on the Levante have very low occupancy and it is a seldom walked camino in general. By the time that I am on the VdlP, I expect that it will be late season, with few pilgrims. I shall not ask anyone whether the albergues are being policed for vaccinated pilgrims only. I shall continue to take whatever precautions are recommended to protect others. As a senior, I expect that my chances to walk caminos will be limited and I should not wish to miss this opportunity. But if information suggests that I shall be an additional risk to others, I shall reconsider.
Exactly, this.Unfortunately there are 2 problems here, and they are related to a third that I will list as 2b
1) Vaccines are not reliably able to prevent becoming infected.
2) People vaccinated can still express symptoms of COV-19 — merely in reduced form; or, as now, they may be a symptomatic carriers.
2b) problems 1 and 2 for the vaccinated traveler tromping across a country, eating in group settings along the way, visiting religious sites and museums presents a hazard to the aged/rural/unvaccinated locals who can still end up dying from your asymptomatic infection.
Or, you know, I could risk causing an outbreak in which 60% of a small village gets sick because of my symptomatic carrier status.
Exactly, this.
Those intrinsically safer unknowingly (and potentially uncareingly) affecting their fellow beings.
Thanks for sharing your informed, professional opinion.Being a physician, I diligently follow the Covid news. Unfortunately, there are already reports of small numbers of people who have been fully vaccinated who have acquired the disease. The vaccines are not 100% effective. In those affected, the disease appears to be mild, and perhaps more importantly, they are contagious.
Fully vaccinated, I am hoping to go late September. Booked for that date. For extra precaution, I will be staying in hotels rather than albergues, just to be extra careful. If proof of vaccination is required, I am sure the albergues will be safe. In Canada, we are hearing from our medical experts that fully vaccinated at 72% of the country we will not have to wear masks or social distance.Assuming most of us flying will be vaccinated: If caminos opens up in the late summer or fall, how likely are you to walk in 21? Will you, knowing that a number of peregrinos sharing the room in the albergue may not be vaccinated, still sleep in the same room? If we do not reach herd immunity, how safe would it be to share sleeping quarters with non vaccinated folks? For the sake of everyone , should those sharing a common room be required to show proof of vaccination. I know this may not be a popular idea with some...
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