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Heel Spur

Al the optimist

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After last year's Caminos I have been diagnosed with a calcium growth on my heel. I don't know why but it hurts more some times than others. I am doing the stretching suggested by the quack but it doesn't make much difference. It is interfering with any training for this year's planned Camino Madrid. :( Anyone else have this problem?
Just returned from 6 days in Barcelona where I found that it caused me some problems while walking around. :mad: So I am getting concerned about this year's walk. :( (Mind you I did have a bad cold and was therefore permanently tired and in lower than normal spirits. Though they were raised when greeted back Tuesday afternoon by my youngest daughter who promptly persuaded me to go with her to Granada to visit the Alhambra in two weeks time. Flights booked even before I left her!) So some hill and heat walking practice soon?
Seriously though. I am now thinking the Frances from Pamploma might bean advisable option instead of the Madrid/Frances this time. That way I have much more opportunity to have shorter days/transport as I find necessary.
 
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Oh no, Al! I developped a heel spur last fall, courtesy of the Camino del Norte. Started feeling the pain by Portugalete, certainly Pobena, and just kept walking, but shorter days. I wasn't about to sit in a hotel for 2 weeks waiting for my flight back home after all. But this clearly did a lot of damage. I limped for over two months after getting back home.

I now where my new Camino shoes with my orthotics when ever I leave the house, and my Birkies at home, as suggested by my podiatrist. The only time I wear shoes that are not ugly is at work. This beind said, the last two mornings I have felt pain when getting up from bed. So it is clearly not solved. I have my second visit with my podiatrist tomorrow, so we can discuss what an ultrasound may have revealed. According to the Xray doc there is quite a bit of damage, so I have my fingers crossed. But the good news is that since I've been wearing my orthotics so much the one for the affected foot no longer feels unconfortable, as it did before regular use.

I always thought that a cortisone injection could be a last minute solution if my foot didn't heal in time, but those should only be done with an ultrasound so they can deposit the cortison around the affected area, not piercing the fascia.

I will report back after my appointment tomorrow morning. Other recommendations were ice and stretches, and looking at making slight adjustments to my orthotics. Will see ... But I would suggest you consult a podiatrist and see what solutions you could come up with so you can enjoy your next Camino.
 
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I cannot help in anyway, Al, but I wanted to express my sorrow with your problems & hope that you (& Anenome) find a solution. I also want to say how much I appreciate your humour on this forum.
Suzanne :)
 
Thanks people. Your comments are appreciated. I have visited an optometrist. Sorry to hear you are suffering too Anemone and Annie. Any input to the thoughts of the Frances being a better option anyone?
 
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Al, sorry to hear of your problem and pray that it is resolved so that you are able to walk at least somewhere. Perhaps you/we ought to revive your thread from last year and add yourself to it as once again there seem to be a number having to postpone their Caminos, or change their routes/plans.
 
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After last year's Caminos I have been diagnosed with a calcium growth on my heel. I don't know why but it hurts more some times than others. I am doing the stretching suggested by the quack but it doesn't make much difference. It is interfering with any training for this year's planned Camino Madrid. :( Anyone else have this problem?
Just returned from 6 days in Barcelona where I found that it caused me some problems while walking around. :mad: So I am getting concerned about this year's walk. :( (Mind you I did have a bad cold and was therefore permanently tired and in lower than normal spirits. Though they were raised when greeted back Tuesday afternoon by my youngest daughter who promptly persuaded me to go with her to Granada to visit the Alhambra in two weeks time. Flights booked even before I left her!) So some hill and heat walking practice soon?
Seriously though. I am now thinking the Frances from Pamploma might bean advisable option instead of the Madrid/Frances this time. That way I have much more opportunity to have shorter days/transport as I find necessary.

Hi, Al,
A heel spur put an end to my first Vdlp in 2008. I made it to Cáceres and knew it was stupid to continue. I had an xray in a hospital in Cáceres, and it clearly showed a hook-shaped protrusion on my heel. For me, the healing process was uncomplicated but annoying, just staying off it as much as possible. I was living in Portugal at the time and could not for the life of me find a walking cast. They seem to be generally unavailable on the Iberian peninsula, don´t know about the rest of Europe, but it is a great device because it keeps you mobile while altering the foot strike to avoid coming down on the problem area. So in my case, it would have been with a tilt forward so I wouldn´t strike on the heel. If you can find one, it might really help with the recovery, while allowing you to visit the Alhambra without doing more damage.

These walking casts are used frequently in the US for broken ankles, feet, etc, but can also be configured to help with other problems that will heal so long as you don´t keep pounding them.

That was also the year I changed my orthotics from hard plastic to silicone, and I have never had another problem. Knock on wood. My doctors (orthopedist in Portugal, podiatrist in US) concur that the cause was the result of innumerable foot strikes with a hard orthotic underfoot. I did get a cortisone shot in Portugal but I´m not really sure it helped much.

Wishing you a good recovery, Laurie
 
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After last year's Caminos I have been diagnosed with a calcium growth on my heel. I don't know why but it hurts more some times than others. I am doing the stretching suggested by the quack but it doesn't make much difference. It is interfering with any training for this year's planned Camino Madrid. :( Anyone else have this problem?
Just returned from 6 days in Barcelona where I found that it caused me some problems while walking around. :mad: So I am getting concerned about this year's walk. :( (Mind you I did have a bad cold and was therefore permanently tired and in lower than normal spirits. Though they were raised when greeted back Tuesday afternoon by my youngest daughter who promptly persuaded me to go with her to Granada to visit the Alhambra in two weeks time. Flights booked even before I left her!) So some hill and heat walking practice soon?
Seriously though. I am now thinking the Frances from Pamploma might bean advisable option instead of the Madrid/Frances this time. That way I have much more opportunity to have shorter days/transport as I find necessary.

Al, I'm so sorry to hear this. For what it's worth I will throw in my experience. Some years ago I developed pain in one of my heels while on a business trip and saw an orthopedist as soon as I got home. She x-rayed the foot and announced that the bad news was that I had plantar fasciitis but the good news was that I didn't have a bone spur. She said I wanted to avoid getting a bone spur because that would require a cortisone shot, which is quite painful, and that surgery on bone spurs rarely works well. She gave me a prescription for ibuprofen, physical therapy, heel cushions, directions to wear only well-supported shoes, and a pamphlet to read. The pamphlet had critical information: it said when there is inflammation in the body the body's response is to send calcium to that area. The calcium builds up and forms a bone spur. That is why it is so critical to take the ibuprofen when there is inflammation. I took the drugs and had the physical therapy for a long time. It seemed to do nothing. The heel cushions, however, were a godsend. I could walk anywhere with the cushions.

As a fluke, some months later I was reading a magazine while waiting in the dentist's office and read that the number two cause for Americans to see an orthopedist the year before (1998) was for plantar fasciitis. Following this little article was an effective exercise for this problem, pulling the big toe toward the body and holding for 30 seconds three times. This was not part of the physical therapy I had received. Well, I did the exercise and it completely cured the problem. I have to keep it up or I start getting tight in the arch of my foot.

Shortly after the diagnosis I was buying ugly, well-supported shoes in the ugly shoe store and struck up a conversation with another customer. She was a geologist who walked the fields daily. She had developed plantar fasciitis and ignored it. She developed a bone spur, had to have the cortisone shot (was painful, she said), and now had prescription orthotics, which was the only way she could manage her problem, but it was managed. She said she was doomed to wear ugly shoes (no high heels) the rest of her life. I, on the other hand, have not had to wear the heel cushions for many years.

Then, again in physical therapy for a frozen shoulder, I mentioned to the new physical therapist about the great exercise I had learned for plantar fasciitis. She cut she me short and said, "it's the toe pulling one isn't it?" Of course it was. Sit on a chair or couch, pull the knee up on the edge of the couch and pull the big toe toward you. Hold for thirty seconds, repeat two more times. You will feel the pull in the arch. Do this twice daily.

I suspect you will have to get prescription orthotics, drugs or shots, and continue the exercises. I work with someone now who recently got her orthotics ($400.) and it is taking her quite a while to adapt. So, get them and begin breaking them in. I hope this information helps you and any others dealing with plantar fasciitis.
 
Sorry to hear this Al. You have been so kind and sympathetic with our disappointments. Good news here is that my husband is cured amd starts his Camino from home on Monday week. I join him near Frómista and hope my tendonitis doesn't come back...

So Al, do all the excercises and take it SLOWLY! Buen Camino
 
Thanks all.
Does that help you see the bright side of everything?
Glad you got it and could see clearly my poor attempt at humour.
I had seen a podiatrist but hadn't seen much progress so I thought some new rose tinted specs might improve how I looked at the future? Only wear walking boots with gell insoles except on very rare occasions, stretch exercises, try rest but need some fitness level. I feel sorry for the publican at the end of my normal training walk - his profits must be plunging!
 
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I am sorry about your foot, and it is encouraging to hear all the positive stories about how people manage such problems. At the moment I am also in "rest" mode because I seem to have bruised one foot from some aggressive walking on hard sidewalks with clunky old hiking boots that I was trying to "use up". It is taking weeks to get better (I think I detect slow progress). I'm not walking the camino until October, so I am forcing myself to let it heal now, while there's lots of time.
 
Allan,
I'll throw in my tuppence halfpence worth. It just might give you more insight into your problem. My heart goes out to you.

During Summer 2001 I had heel pain every morning, just like someone was sticking a digger into the sole of my heel. It was always gone in about 15 minutes after getting up. I was too busy to take heed of a pain that vanished after 10 minutes. my day was spent walking the dog early, standing dispensing in pharmacy, running home at lunch hanging out clothes , work again in afternoon, prepare dinner, walk with husband after dinner, look after four teenage boys etc etc.

After a week of a ballroom dancing holiday I woke up on Sunday 21st October and could not walk with the pain. Holding on to the walls I made the 17 steps to the toilet.........14 months later I went to wedding in the South of Spain in a wheelchair. That is the short version.

I had Plantar Faciitis in both feet. It did not respond to rest which my GP. had ordered. When I got to a specialist he explained that the Facia was highly inflamed in both feet and the cause was the calf muscle being so tight. He sent me to a hospital next day where they made night splints for me. Plaster casts as large as wellington boots which I had to wear at night. They keep the foot at right angle to the leg and thus stretch the muscle.
He also sent me to a specialist physiotherapist who took plaster casts of my feet and sent away for the orthotics. I now have six pairs and never go without them.
She showed me how to do the physiotherapy, stretching the calf muscle by leaning on the kitchen counter and keeping the leg very straight trying to reduce the angle between the leg and the floor. ,count to 30. relax knee do it again 10 times. Then do it with the other foot. Do the physio four or five times a day.
It is so boring. I found listening to an audio book helped.

Recovery was so slow. I begged for injections. " You are too bad" they "would be no use" I was told. I was promised that if I was faithful to these three things I would recover. night splints , orthotics and physio. I was faithful. I recovered. Recovery was slow, BUT I CAN WALK AGAIN But it still growls around the door at times and I do my physio. It is years since I let it get bad enough to have to use the night splints again. But I keep them ,just in case.

So there is light at the end of the tunnel, But maybe you have to take care of yourself right now.

My understanding is that heel spurs develop to easy the stress on the facia.

I would do the toe towards the knee before I leave the bed in the morning and it stretches the muscle just that little bit that it needs.

Being the optimist you can say that being a man you do not feel the pain and regret of having to forgo wearing stylish shoes!!

Hope you have a great time in Granada,

Lydia,

P.S. Keep a can of something in the freezer and roll your feet on it to cool them
 
So sorry to hear about that Al. I have a heel spur that flared up over 10 years ago and lasted months ... the doc said it was the biggest spur he had ever seen. After buying new shoes and using inserts it eventually went away and stayed away for over a decade ... then last summer I did a lot of bare foot walking (no supportive shoes) and on some training walks I only wore my general duty walking shoes not my trekking boots or shoes and I did not use inserts (lazy!) ... and it came back with a vengeance. I figured my Camino was over .. finished ... kaput ... but it only lasted 2 months this time and I wised up ... only training in my keen hiking mids and getting custom orthotics for both my boots AND my alternative walking shoes. It went away quickly after that but I know it's still lurking even though I no longer feel it or any pain I still am a bit worried extended walking every day could cause a relapse. That's one of the reasons I am starting VERY slowly and don't plan initially on trying to cover as much ground in a day as most do. I hope with some loving care and a little luck your spur does a similar disappearing act. Don't despair yet it might go away as quickly as it appeared as long as you take whatever steps you can to eliminate whatever might have cause it to flare up.
 
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My name is Rebecca and I am a recovering plantar fasciitis (you say: "Hello Rebecca."). I injured myself last spring walking in oversized clogs on cobble stones in Seattle's Pike Place market. Wham! Right heel pain. I didn't know what it was, and didn't worry about it too much. It just didn't go away. I didn't see anyone for it until August. I have been in phy.ther. about 5 months (didn't do any good) until....

I heard that the owner of the physical therapy front taped feet for treatment of plantar fasciitis. Now, why didn't they tell me this after months of exercises and stretching? $$$ Anyway, he used a tape called Leuko tape (Amazon) with white sport tape to support and cradle the foot. I goggled "video for taping the foot for plantar fas. and got this: http://www.heel-that-pain.com/plant...s_taping.php?gclid=CPPTz7bZxsQCFVQ8gQodjZAA2w I asked him to show me how to tape it myself and he said I needed a doctor to do it right (wrong). The goggle video shows you how, and I have taped my own foot successfully for over a month and it is working.

Since taping, I found that the healing processes is faster and the pain manageable (if not gone). I also am taking Aleve if it seems inflamed. The tape is waterproof and usually stays on for a week. The tape is going with me to Spain.

I leave in 22 days, and what I have come to is this: I am called to carry the prayers of my family and friends to Spain and to listen and mediate about my future career. I am called to be in Spain for 40 days. I may or may not walk all 500 miles, but I will walk what I can, and humbly carry the faith of those left behind. If I have to, I will travel ahead to Sarria and walk/hobble to Santiago de Compostella. We have to work out what works. Just my two cents. $.02 ;-)
 
Thanks people. Your comments are appreciated. I have visited an optometrist. Sorry to hear you are suffering too Anemone and Annie. Any input to the thoughts of the Frances being a better option anyone?
All, if you have visited an optometrist, that may be the root of the problem ;0)
 
Thanks people. Your comments are appreciated. I have visited an optometrist. Sorry to hear you are suffering too Anemone and Annie. Any input to the thoughts of the Frances being a better option anyone?

Only that you may have more options to hop a bus/taxi/train if necessary, AND, you will have all of us behind you my friend,
 
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After last year's Caminos I have been diagnosed with a calcium growth on my heel. I don't know why but it hurts more some times than others. I am doing the stretching suggested by the quack but it doesn't make much difference. It is interfering with any training for this year's planned Camino Madrid. :( Anyone else have this problem?
Just returned from 6 days in Barcelona where I found that it caused me some problems while walking around. :mad: So I am getting concerned about this year's walk. :( (Mind you I did have a bad cold and was therefore permanently tired and in lower than normal spirits. Though they were raised when greeted back Tuesday afternoon by my youngest daughter who promptly persuaded me to go with her to Granada to visit the Alhambra in two weeks time. Flights booked even before I left her!) So some hill and heat walking practice soon?
Seriously though. I am now thinking the Frances from Pamploma might bean advisable option instead of the Madrid/Frances this time. That way I have much more opportunity to have shorter days/transport as I find necessary.
Sorry I can't offer any remedies - hope you get well soon. Only comfort that comes to mind is a glass of good spanish wine! Your daughters suggestion to visit Granada is wonderful - The Alhambra is one of those places that enrich the soul - enjoy.
 
. . . I have visited an optometrist. . . .

Al, if you have visited an optometrist, that may be the root of the problem ;0)

Al, maybe what you meant was that you visited an Optimist?

Just to throw in my experiences, both of which happened before my Camino.

I got plantar fascitis (why does spell check insist on changing this to Fascists??) from running, a few years ago. Finally went to a podiatrist and he recommended the stretching exercises and our friendly-old Camino staple, Voltaren. At that time (maybe still) it was only available by prescription in the States. I used it, recovered quickly, and I brought one half full tube on my Camino, which I was able to share with some Pilgrims in their time of need.

Frozen shoulder, the heel spur of the upper regions. When I could no longer raise my left arm over my head, I went to an orthopedic surgeon. He recommended physical therapy at first. When that didn't help, he recommended a cortisone shot. He told me it would work pretty quickly but the relief would not last long, maybe three months.

I was hesitant but had no choice.

I got the shot. It was no more painful than any other injection. Relief was almost instantaneous - I felt better before I left his office. No exaggeration - I could tell the difference as I was putting my arm into the sleeve of my coat out in the waiting room.

That was six years ago. I never had to go back. My frozen shoulder is unstuck. If needed, I would have the cortisone shot again. My fear was the only thing that kept me suffering unnecessarily for weeks/months.

Visit your inner optimist. Then your podiatrist.

We need you on the Camino.

And down with Plantar Fascists!!!

Kathy
 
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So, went to the podiatrist to find out about my ultra sound results. No tear of the plantar fascia (yet!) on the heel spur but the poor thing is twice as thick as it should be. And the injury dates back to September. Or does it. Podiatrist thinks the injury happened before and "my walk" made it worse.

But ... because of that pain I apparently misused other bits of me: the peroneous longus.

So I am now getting a second, and softer king of orthotic, alternating between this new one and the traditional one every few hours. The new one is a Vasilyi Hallux Limitux Danaberg orthotic. No Rx required, but adjustements could be. I will let you Google and readh the science behing it. Have not seen them, have not tried them. Just letting you know where I am at.

Oh, and I am to freeze a small bottle of water and roll it under my foot when ever I get a chance, wear my Birkies at home and not a shoe with no support. As for day time, I may have to quit my job to wear my hicking runners all they day long ;0)

May you find a way to get out there and enjoy yourself, without hurting yourself any further.
 
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After last year's Caminos I have been diagnosed with a calcium growth on my heel. I don't know why but it hurts more some times than others. I am doing the stretching suggested by the quack but it doesn't make much difference. It is interfering with any training for this year's planned Camino Madrid. :( Anyone else have this problem?
Just returned from 6 days in Barcelona where I found that it caused me some problems while walking around. :mad: So I am getting concerned about this year's walk. :( (Mind you I did have a bad cold and was therefore permanently tired and in lower than normal spirits. Though they were raised when greeted back Tuesday afternoon by my youngest daughter who promptly persuaded me to go with her to Granada to visit the Alhambra in two weeks time. Flights booked even before I left her!) So some hill and heat walking practice soon?
Seriously though. I am now thinking the Frances from Pamploma might bean advisable option instead of the Madrid/Frances this time. That way I have much more opportunity to have shorter days/transport as I find necessary.
Hi Al, sorry to hear of your heel problems, I hope that one way or another you will overcome it and be able to continue your Caminos.....As you were the first person to welcome me to the Forum and tell me that I had ...number of sleeps until I set off, they were in the hundreds then, now I find myself with only about 15 sleeps left and I am getting nervous, have I done all the homework,check, will my legs hold out, hopefully, am I fit enough, maybe,etc. etc. walk it I will, as we say here may the road rise to meet you, and may the wind always be at your back.....Ps..My Aunt lived in Wolverhampton all her life, I visited there once way back.......Best wishes and many more Buen Caminos..
 
After last year's Caminos I have been diagnosed with a calcium growth on my heel. I don't know why but it hurts more some times than others. I am doing the stretching suggested by the quack but it doesn't make much difference. It is interfering with any training for this year's planned Camino Madrid. :( Anyone else have this problem?
Just returned from 6 days in Barcelona where I found that it caused me some problems while walking around. :mad: So I am getting concerned about this year's walk. :( .
I get heal spurs too. They come and go for me. I currently have pain from mine. This usually means t Is time to buy a new pair of shoes. Within a week that usually resolves the pain. I've had them since childhood. Massaging by rolling your foot on a golf ball to lengthen the muscles in the arch of your foot also helps
 

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