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Just don't go strictly by the guidebooks. Find places in between "stages" and make nice to the locals.
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that is true, figures are for compostelas awarded; however 10% seems a bit low. honestly i do not think anyone knows how many people are on the camino. many of the cities and towns on the camino are popular domestic tourist destinations, so you can't gauge by hotel occupancy...I just read some interesting information re the actual numbers of pilgrims on the Camino Frances. Apparently the numbers quoted are for those having completed the Camino and have received their Compostela. They are only 10% of the actual number walking each year. So the projected numbers are based on completed walks.
It is the celebration of the 1,000 Years Pilgrimage by St. Francis of Assisi and I suspect Pope Francis' current t popularity will be a factor to bring the pilgrimage numbers up. I start in Sahagun in late June 2014 and I've been reading that private rooms in places like O'Cebreiro and Samos have been sold out for while.
Still lower than medieval times! What did Ostabat have in the old days, 20 or 30 pilgrim hostels?. Estimates were 500,000 or more a year.
Newfy makes a good point. I'm off to look at some history.
Those pilgrims were probably a lot less demanding. They would have taken whatever lodging was provided - or slept rough.Still lower than medieval times! What did Ostabat have in the old days, 20 or 30 pilgrim hostels?. Estimates were 500,000 or more a year.
That seems like a lot of pilgrims a year if you consider that the population in Europe circa 1200 was around 16 million. In any case, I am sure the numbers were very high.Still lower than medieval times! What did Ostabat have in the old days, 20 or 30 pilgrim hostels?. Estimates were 500,000 or more a year.
Perhaps refugios should move into having small people sleep on top of large people?
That seems like a lot of pilgrims a year if you consider that the population in Europe circa 1200 was around 16 million. In any case, I am sure the numbers were very high.
All promoted by the pope in order to generate funds after the Moorish control of Spain.i have seen estimates of a million. A quick search found this:
". In the 11th and 12th centuries, millions of people from all over Europe made pilgrimages to Santiago. It has been estimated that in the 12th century 10 percent of the population of Europe was involved in making or in some way supporting the pilgrimage to Santiago. In the 12th Century there were so many pilgrims traveling to Santiago that a Moorish emissary traveling to Santiago complained of the delays on the road."
http://www.aromasysabores.com/camino/historical_background.html
i have seen estimates of a million. A quick search found this:
". In the 11th and 12th centuries, millions of people from all over Europe made pilgrimages to Santiago. It has been estimated that in the 12th century 10 percent of the population of Europe was involved in making or in some way supporting the pilgrimage to Santiago. In the 12th Century there were so many pilgrims traveling to Santiago that a Moorish emissary traveling to Santiago complained of the delays on the road."
http://www.aromasysabores.com/camino/historical_background.html
Hi,
230,000 seems like a very high number. Let's say 20% walk in the 6 month low season, that means that April to September about 1000 pilgrims a day reach SdC, can that be right?
Anyhow, there were beds available in Astorga, Foncebadon, Ponsferrada and Villafranca over the last four days. No rushing, 7 30 starts and stops for coffee!
Regards
George
Not my number, and yes, about a 1000 a day, especially in late july and august when the spaniards are on vacation and hit the trail
http://www.caminodesantiago.me/2013-statistics-for-the-camino-de-santiago/
Not my number, and yes, about a 1000 a day, especially in late july and august when the spaniards are on vacation and hit the trail
http://www.caminodesantiago.me/2013-statistics-for-the-camino-de-santiago/
Then would it be advisable/necessary/possible to make a reservation at Roncesvalles albergue? Im sure all 230000 won't show up in one day, but still... Suddenly 180 beds are not looking like a sure thing
Then would it be advisable/necessary/possible to make a reservation at Roncesvalles albergue? Im sure all 230000 won't show up in one day, but still... Suddenly 180 beds are not looking like a sure thing
You CAN reserve in advance using the email address on the albergue webpage.
However, in season there are additional monastery albergue overflow spaces available; hence, I doubt that you would need to actually reserve. Nevertheless a confirmed reservation would provide peace of mind as you trudge up the Ibaneta pass.
The choice is your's to make!
Margaret Meredith
I'll take my chances then! Trying to avoid falling into over-thinking and over-planning trap ))
I am a SpaniardSounds like you wish the Spanish shouldn't be on the Camino? Anne
Except for the city of Zaragoza, it is ignored (businesses will close)This is slightly off the track of the thread but is Spanish National Day on the 12th October celebrated in a big way? If all goes well we should be around Milede at that time and just wondered if we should make sure we get accommodation beforehand. Thanks
My country as well! Just stating a fact regarding pilgrim numbers. In any case, more than half the pilgrims are now foreigners and they tend to walk in spring and summer too.Well it is their country and they have holidays ...I always walk in april...by choice...never problems with finding a bed.
Absolutely no problem the last 5 nights in Espinal, Pamplona, Puente La Reina, Estella or Torres del Rio.
Some sore feet and joints, but plenty of wine and beer being consumed to keep spirits high
Perhaps refugios should move into having small people sleep on top of large people?
It's our fault here on the forum. Our enthusiastic comments do attract too many people!
So the camino is a very boring, not spiritual place, too crowded, too long, dirty and dangerous place. And the people are nasty. The movie 'the way' is paid by the tourist industry and gives a false picture.
People should really stay away from it!
It is the celebration of the 1,000 Years Pilgrimage by St. Francis of Assisi and I suspect Pope Francis' current t popularity will be a factor to bring the pilgrimage numbers up. I start in Sahagun in late June 2014 and I've been reading that private rooms in places like O'Cebreiro and Samos have been sold out for while.
The point is the Españoles have their vacation now and take the oportunity to walk from Sarria, Tui,Ferrol etc. The Camiño Francès from Sarria is very populair by schools, preparing the new schoolseason and building up teamspirit by walking togetherJust got back from Santiago and there were 'waves' of tourist groups (30-50 people) parading down the Camino after Sarria. Mind you, nothing wrong with that, just find it odd they do not spread out a bit more. In any case, the more the merrier!
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