- Time of past OR future Camino
- To Santiago + back
2400 km + 950 nmi
160 days
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Thank you for the photo and comment. I had forgotten about the Mont Blanc ultra-trail event! When we walked the TMB many years ago, we happened to meet one of the participants on the eve or a few days before the event who was on a reconnaissance jog. I think he was one of the top runners. He stopped to chat with us and answer our questions. A very gentle and friendly man. Although I feel quite protective about the TMB trail and the Alpine environment in general, I had never perceived the ultratrail event as a threat to the environment or to the peace of mind of those who go there on whatever quest they pursue.We found ourselves “caught up” in a race on the Tour Mont Blanc in September. It was a 200 mile, seven day race over 23 summits and I think there may have been 700 participants. We saw 10 or 11 during the entire seven days. One in particular had a profound almost Camino like impact on us.
You're welcome. This is what the runner was looking at.Thank you for the photo and comment. I had forgotten about the Mont Blanc ultra-trail event! When we walked the TMB many years ago, we happened to meet one of the participants on the eve or a few days before the event who was on a reconnaissance jog. I think he was one of the top runners. He stopped to chat with us and answer our questions. A very gentle and friendly man. Although I feel quite protective about the TMB trail and the Alpine environment in general, I had never perceived the ultratrail event as a threat to the environment or to the peace of mind of those who go there on whatever quest they pursue.
Sad.I may be late to the party with this story, but I just learned of it 20 minutes ago.
To me, it seems completely unnecessary.
http://caminotravelcenter.com/the-c...hosting-the-first-pilgrims-race-in-june-2017/
Or even somebody higher up the ladder?errmmm .... the land may be Spanish but I think the Camino, the pilgrimage, belongs to the Vatican
The cathedrals yes, but every kilometer or the path? I think not.Or even somebody higher up the ladder?
The commercialization of sacred places is a problem, in my humble opinion. The destruction of a sacred place does not happen all at once, but by very small steps or uses of the place that abuse (too strong a word, but it is all I could think of at the moment) its sanctity. It is not abused simply by large numbers as long as the overall purpose of the place is maintained. In this instance of the Camino, it is not that it is a public race of five people or 500 people, it is an abuse of a path that has been used for over a 1,000 years for a purpose of pilgrimage.
I don't find it sad that some voice their opinion publically. I hope that it at least makes people think about what is and is not appropriate. I hope that sacred places throughout the world - Christian and non-Christian alike - are maintained, respected, and valued. I don't see any value in degrading them by conciously ignoring their purpose.
I understand how it would be easy to have a race on a path that is already in use, but I wonder if there are not hundreds of other places that would be just as easy to use?
And in addition, the Camino Travel Center does not organise nor sponsor the race. They have nothing to do with it. They are a tiny local travel agency, a 2-person outfit. They just copy-pasted a news item into the blog on their website. However, apparently thanks to this thread, they have by now attracted at least 50 messages of protest against the event .....! Their blog entries normally attract between 0 and 1 comment. In the meantime, they have added some clarification at the end of the news item on the race.from what I see, the Camino Travel Center seems to be a private entity with no charitable or religious connotations.
Doubtful.Those “corregrinos” are going to hell in a bumbag!
There are also plans for a GAES Pilgrim Race in July 2017 ... anyone read about it?
Only 1000 Euro to sign up for eight days. Quite a bit for a "nonprofit."Read more here--
https://www.pilgrimrace.es/?lang=en
Doubtful.
That seems dangerous (and not very fun for the bikers); very different than an occasional long distance runner. However, there was a bike team training on the Camino in April 2015 and they were very respectful of those of us walking and also very friendly and kind. I think I have a photo.It is a bike race. Hard enough now to have walkers and bikes on the same path; imagine what will happen if the bikes are racing. And if there is mud, presumably that will just be an extra "challenge" - with consequential damage to the path.
Isn't the Camino route a world heritage site? If so, surely there would be implications?I may be late to the party with this story, but I just learned of it 20 minutes ago.
To me, it seems completely unnecessary.
http://caminotravelcenter.com/the-c...hosting-the-first-pilgrims-race-in-june-2017/
"After all, tomorrow is another day." (The correct quote of anguish and hope!!!!)Ach. |i'm off to bed. Tomorrow will be another day.
It's similar to other publicized events - the recent Camino by the Sea project springs to mind - : the owners of the Compostela award system can hand them out as they see fit. Not to all and sundry but to the selected few who did not walk all of the last 100 km, did not have any need to make a secret out of it and were officially awarded their Compostelas.
There is a misunderstanding, the comment refers to this https://www.sailtheway.es/ - people sail along the North coast for 11 days and then walk one day (last year 10 km, this year 15 km) and get a Compostela.Camino by Sea that was recently shown in documentary, as an example of the office making up rules and handing out Compostellas as they see fit; I there there is a profound difference. I watched the documentary...
And yes, the Camino belongs to the Spanish, the same way that Table Mountain in Cape Town belongs to South Africa, etc. The UNESCO is an enabler, not an owner. It's a Spanish CaminoWhich of course makes it their responsibility to take care of but that's another story.
Lots of people have done back to back marathons. Just like lots of people have climbed Everest or walked the Camino. These used to be absurd 'out there' challenges. Not any more.
There is a misunderstanding, the comment refers to this https://www.sailtheway.es/ - people sail along the North coast for 11 days and then walk one day (last year 10 km, this year 15 km) and get a Compostela.
Such a pity. I find this totally inappropriate.I may be late to the party with this story, but I just learned of it 20 minutes ago.
To me, it seems completely unnecessary.
http://caminotravelcenter.com/the-c...hosting-the-first-pilgrims-race-in-june-2017/
The Camino is a complex network of ancient pilgrim routes extending throughout Europe and even into the Middle East -- it is older than the Spanish Nation by far -- it no more "belongs" to any single country than does the Mediterranean Sea.
According to international law what's physically on their land belongs to them. That's after all what's under discussion here. The broad concept of pilgrimage, course not, that's logical.
Will it be followed by competitive praying?Really sad to read of the Camino being used like this..
What's next, relay races around the Vatican?
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