Peggy and David
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- Time of past OR future Camino
- Camino Francis Fall 2018
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Amen!A message that can't be repeated often enough.
I grew up in a family of seven girls! We were restricted to 2 squares for number 1!Fortunately, we were unrestricted for number 2!
That is hysterical! Your fiancee? Worse than my situation!Two brothers & a toilet shared by 4 (mom got her own) that clogged easily. My dad followed my fiance into the bathroom to show him how many sheets to use and how to fold them.
David, I think your problem is that you live ON the Camino Frances...but are confused and think you live elsewhere.I so agree with you - and, yes, it is females .. something to do with the different plumbing down there I think.
I'm fairly certain that the main reason I live alone (apart from being a grumpy old codger) is that I cannot afford the cost of the toilet paper being in a relationship causes. I use one roll about every two weeks but if I have females visit - well, one female for two nights and two or more rolls of toilet paper gone, every time!! - maybe they put it all into a big plastic bag to distribute on the Camino?
signed: confused singleton male
As an engineering student I went on a site visit to the huge Crossness sewage treatment plant in London. Three 11'-6" pipes feed into a chamber with a steel barred grille which acts as a screen.Two brothers & a toilet shared by 4 (mom got her own) that clogged easily. My dad followed my fiance into the bathroom to show him how many sheets to use and how to fold them.
When growing up, my mom showed us 5 kids how much toilet paper we were allowed to use. It was 2 squares for #1 for us girls, and 4 squares(at a time) for #2...no exceptions. She also taught us to wad it, whereas my OH learned to fold it in his family. TMI, TMI!Two brothers & a toilet shared by 4 (mom got her own) that clogged easily. My dad followed my fiance into the bathroom to show him how many sheets to use and how to fold them.
Two brothers & a toilet shared by 4 (mom got her own) that clogged easily. My dad followed my fiance into the bathroom to show him how many sheets to use and how to fold them.
I think men also do nr 2 in the nature and I guess they also use toiletpaper for that or ???? Maybe I don’t want to know
For campers who “leave no trace”, a trowel is standard equipment for burying biodegradable items... maybe there are plastic(lightweight) onesI wish I had an idea for proper communication of this standard to the offenders. This forum is filled with like minded anti-trash people-- and some of us even do some pick-up on our walks.
But with 300,000 people a year walking the end, even a small percentage can leave a lot of tissue. And I believe that once the tissue is there, it encourages others to abuse the landscape.
I absolutely agree. Unfortunately, the people who visit this forum are probably the least likely culprits.I know this topic has been posted several times, but please (ladies primarily) do not leave toilet paper on the trail (or off)! I recently finished the Camino Francis and was dismayed that Pilgrims would disrespect the way for others by carelessly discarding their used tissue. Carrying a small plastic bag adds little weight and can be a receptacle for paper until you get to a trash bin. Better yet, small panty liners allow "drip dry" with no discomfort and are available in every Farmacia and supermacado. Please spread the word!
Me too. I am convinced they secretly eat the stuff. Also, I have noticed that the furniture always seems to get mysteriously rearranged...I so agree with you - and, yes, it is females .. something to do with the different plumbing down there I think.
I'm fairly certain that the main reason I live alone (apart from being a grumpy old codger) is that I cannot afford the cost of the toilet paper being in a relationship causes. I use one roll about every two weeks but if I have females visit - well, one female for two nights and two or more rolls of toilet paper gone, every time!! - maybe they put it all into a big plastic bag to distribute on the Camino?
signed: confused singleton male
Only the furniture we can drag around the room ourselves.Me too. I am convinced they secretly eat the stuff. Also, I have noticed that the furniture always seems to get mysteriously rearranged...
Olé!Only the furniture we can drag around the room ourselves.
Pilgrims certainly steal it! I've recounted before my lapse in leaving an unopened 12 pack of toilet rolls unattended for 5 minutes and every one of them was taken!Me too. I am convinced they secretly eat the stuff. Also, I have noticed that the furniture always seems to get mysteriously rearranged...
That's because you have two daughters, Jeff, and no sons.Pilgrims certainly steal it! I've recounted before my lapse in leaving an unopened 12 pack of toilet rolls unattended for 5 minutes and every one of them was taken!
?? I keep reading that but can't figure out the connection between being the father of daughters and thieving pilgrims?That's because you have two daughters, Jeff, and no sons.
I thought you meant at home your daughters took it all for their bathroom after you returned from the store with it!?? I keep reading that but can't figure out the connection between being the father of daughters and thieving pilgrims?What am I missing?
Oh! That's me being dense! No, I was at Rabanal. Somebody was taken ill as I was replenishing the upstairs toilets and Woosh! the 12 rolls disappeared like magic - it was like David Copperfield (the magician - not the Dickens character).I thought you meant at home your daughters took it all for their bathroom after you returned from the store with it!
Oops, sorry, I forgot you were a hospi, I think?!
Well, I just want to know if when you use the "two squares", do you wash your hands really, REALLY well when you come out?Me too. I am convinced they secretly eat the stuff. Also, I have noticed that the furniture always seems to get mysteriously rearranged...
It had me nonplussed too - I also thought he was referring to his own home...I thought you meant at home your daughters took it all for their bathroom after you returned from the store with it!
Oops, sorry, I forgot you were a hospi, I think?!
I haven't used the "two square" method since I left the family nest "a few years ago". And we were taught to always wash our hands.Well, I just want to know if when you use the "two squares", do you wash your hands really, REALLY well when you come out?
I so agree with you - and, yes, it is females .. something to do with the different plumbing down there I think.
I'm fairly certain that the main reason I live alone (apart from being a grumpy old codger) is that I cannot afford the cost of the toilet paper being in a relationship causes. I use one roll about every two weeks but if I have females visit - well, one female for two nights and two or more rolls of toilet paper gone, every time!! - maybe they put it all into a big plastic bag to distribute on the Camino?
signed: confused singleton male
I’d be interested to know how biodegradable these really are though? To be honest, i don’t have a dog so I’ve not see what the biodegradable ones look like but round where I live, people seem to think it’s ok to leave bags of poo hanging from trees thinking the council workers are going to pick them up, it’s crazy!I carry little biodegradable doggy doody bags. It's a habit of having three dogs. I just can't comprehend leaving anything behind and honestly dread seeing that part of the CF on my first trip in a few weeks.
By the way David, there are four of us in my home: two males, two females (two adults and two teenagers). My husband uses more toilet paper than the rest of us combined, so I'm not sure about a M vs F thing. At least he isn't on here to know I shared that!
I take them to a bin. I never leave them out for someone else to deal with.I’m going to put both hands up and admit I’m guilty of leaving toilet roll on the camino! I came on here to start a post but found this one already started. I have probably done it 1 to 2 times a day during about 30 days of walking. Phew, that was nice to get that out of my system.
To be honest, where I live is pretty rural and I’ve never been told it’s not ok to leave toilet paper the odd time as there’s so few walkers and I guess it degrades eventually but I wonder how long?! I am unconvinced by biodegradable bags to be honest and feel that’s possibly worse (But I haven’t researched this) than leaving a little bit of loo roll well off the path and wedged under a rock or log so it won’t blow away (which I always do). Though maybe those talking about doggy bags take them to a bin?
Anyway, I never really thought much about this practice of leaving loo roll until on the camino and seeing a lot. So towards the end I did try to carry it with me. I will do this every time on my next camino and I’ve been thinking the best way to do this. I guess a zip lock bag as I do not wish to carry a trowel, does anyone else have any ideas? Thanks, Lynda
This was in reply to Dani7 and in general.Well maybe I’m confused. Because do you plan to leave the bag where you do to the toilet on th Camino or carry that with you? You did say you will have a trowel so maybe you will bury it but why not then just bury the tissue paper? Because if people leave the decompostable bag lying out in the open that’s also an eyesore and it will decompose perhaps quicker than the tissue paper in it then leaving tissue.... so I think it one needs to leave tissue paper then putting it completed under a rock or log if unable to carry it with them seems better than a bag left there. But anyway, I think you probably mean you will carry the bag to a bin but I’m not sure what others would do with a decompostable bag.
I guess it’s easier for the majority of men as they can indeed get away with less paper generally! Haha. Plus I don’t plan to use pantyliners as these are also bad for the environment even in the bin. It’s a difficult one, I think ziplock bag will be best and I will wash it somehow?!
I plan to bury the paper when I use a trowel and carry the paper when I just urinate. Throw away the bag in the next village. Easy peasy!Well maybe I’m confused. Because do you plan to leave the bag where you do to the toilet on th Camino or carry that with you? You did say you will have a trowel so maybe you will bury it but why not then just bury the tissue paper? Because if people leave the decompostable bag lying out in the open that’s also an eyesore and it will decompose perhaps quicker than the tissue paper in it then leaving tissue.... so I think it one needs to leave tissue paper then putting it completed under a rock or log if unable to carry it with them seems better than a bag left there. But anyway, I think you probably mean you will carry the bag to a bin but I’m not sure what others would do with a decompostable bag.
I guess it’s easier for the majority of men as they can indeed get away with less paper generally! Haha. Plus I don’t plan to use pantyliners as these are also bad for the environment even in the bin. It’s a difficult one, I think ziplock bag will be best and I will wash it somehow?!
On my last Camino I had to take antibotics for infected feet, with the obvious result that it really upset my digestive system. My daughter who was walking with me christened me Crapsalot. My morning ritual of greasing my feet had to be extended to greasing a more intimate area. I already carry a small trowel, but a damp cloth in a zip lock bag was added, as was more yoghurt to my diet to help rebalance my system. I won't go into more detail, enough said that I am extreamly grateful to my daughter for carrying the extra water needed for cleaning and putting up with me. I think she suffered the indignantly almost as much as me. I also think I can kiss goodbye any chance of grandchildren after I reminded her that I used to carry a nappy bag and deal with worse from her.
At least plenty of trees on that remote route got an extra watering and fertiliser.
Thank you Peggy and David for your post! This was and still is my main complaint about the Camino Frances. I too was appalled at the amount of toilet tissue left literally EVERYWHERE on the trail. PLEASE use the golden rule of pack it in and pack it out. There is really no excuse for this type of behavior and ruins the experience for the rest of us. IF one must use the toilet on the trail puuuulease pack out your soiled tissue. At the very very least dig a hole and bury your excrements. I saw some things on the trail that I'd rather not mention on this forum. PACK IT OUT!!!!!!I know this topic has been posted several times, but please (ladies primarily) do not leave toilet paper on the trail (or off)! I recently finished the Camino Francis and was dismayed that Pilgrims would disrespect the way for others by carelessly discarding their used tissue. Carrying a small plastic bag adds little weight and can be a receptacle for paper until you get to a trash bin. Better yet, small panty liners allow "drip dry" with no discomfort and are available in every Farmacia and supermacado. Please spread the word!
People? All the white tissue, and just about all of it is, is all from females sadly.Hello, and welcome to the forum. Yep, disgusting. I expect you will find some more recent threads on this subject. Problem is, I suspect, that the people (people?) who do this probably never see these justified complaints.
Not sure about that… everyone needs TP for a certain functionPeople? All the white tissue, and just about all of it is, is all from females sadly.
Sure, but I think @David 's comment is justified nonetheless. On the CP this year, I didn't see or smell any faeces where I saw toilet paper, so I am prepared to suggest that women were responsible for that. In the past on the CF, there have been faeces, often left exposed with no apparent attempt to dig them in or cover them. Only in that circumstance would your comment apply.Not sure about that… everyone needs TP for a certain function
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