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If the building was standing empty, how did the fire start?
Glad you asked the albergue/restaurant to remove the ladder. If we all politely check for safety when we arrve at our accommodations and bring these concerns to the attention of the owners and to one another here, we can make a difference. Don’t stay if it doesn’t feel safe and say something before you leave…I needed this thread to remind me, when staying in an albergue, hotel etc. in Spain, to find an exit which is not locked at night, and an alternate, in case that exit is blocked. In Nov./21 I stayed in a hotel at Estacion de Lalin on the Sanabres, where I walked over to the restaurant where I had booked my room and complained about the litter on the stairwell leading to the second floor, where the guest rooms are located. No one was supervising the state of the entrance, where painters had left massive amounts of litter, including a step ladder, on the stairs. There was plenty of empty space to one side of the base of the stairs, but the painters had been too lazy to move the step ladder and bring it back up the next day. Thanks to my complaint, the step ladder was removed. I had to pick up a loose drop cloth, left on the landing, and throw it onto the litter at one side of the stairs. My room was comfortable, but the exit was not safe. I should have also taken the time to look for a second exit. One still lit cigarette butt dumped on that pile of painters refuse and the whole place might have gone up in smoke.
Good advice - but not only in Spain. Anywhere.I needed this thread to remind me, when staying in an albergue, hotel etc. in Spain, to find an exit which is not locked at night, and an alternate, in case that exit is blocked. In Nov./21 I stayed in a hotel at Estacion de Lalin on the Sanabres, where I walked over to the restaurant where I had booked my room and complained about the litter on the stairwell leading to the second floor, where the guest rooms are located. No one was supervising the state of the entrance, where painters had left massive amounts of litter, including a step ladder, on the stairs. There was plenty of empty space to one side of the base of the stairs, but the painters had been too lazy to move the step ladder and bring it back up the next day. Thanks to my complaint, the step ladder was removed. I had to pick up a loose drop cloth, left on the landing, and throw it onto the litter at one side of the stairs. My room was comfortable, but the exit was not safe. I should have also taken the time to look for a second exit. One still lit cigarette butt dumped on that pile of painters refuse and the whole place might have gone up in smoke.
Heartbreaking. La Fabe is such a beautiful village and pilgrim traffic is so important to their economy. Hopefully they can recover from this tragedy. Thank God people are safe and nobody injured. I enjoyed my stay in La Fabe 2015. Fond memories...This very sad news just stresses once again how important it is for peregrinos to make sure about emergency exits in albergues.
Destruido por un incendio el albergue 'El Refugio' de La Faba
Las labores de extinción se centran en evitar la propagación a otros inmuebles debido a la inestabilidad de las estructuras del edificiowww.elbierzodigital.com
This report reminded me of our recent discussion about fire safety in albergues.
Thankfully the building was not occupied at the time of the fire.
This very sad news just stresses once again how important it is for peregrinos to make sure about emergency exits in albergues.
Destruido por un incendio el albergue 'El Refugio' de La Faba
Las labores de extinción se centran en evitar la propagación a otros inmuebles debido a la inestabilidad de las estructuras del edificiowww.elbierzodigital.com
This report reminded me of our recent discussion about fire safety in albergues.
Thankfully the building was not occupied at the time of the fire.
For those of us (shamefully) non-fluent-Spanish speakers, can anyone tell us if it says what they think started the fire? Thanks!Here is an update about La Faba:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1477333010676695042
That is so very sad.This very sad news just stresses once again how important it is for peregrinos to make sure about emergency exits in albergues.
Destruido por un incendio el albergue 'El Refugio' de La Faba
Las labores de extinción se centran en evitar la propagación a otros inmuebles debido a la inestabilidad de las estructuras del edificiowww.elbierzodigital.com
This report reminded me of our recent discussion about fire safety in albergues.
Thankfully the building was not occupied at the time of the fire.
For those of us (shamefully) non-fluent-Spanish speakers, can anyone tell us if it says what they think started the fire? Thanks!
A hard couple of years for all of us, but for them it's now even more awful.A very sad loss for the community and the for the camino.
Thank you, @MinaKamina, for summing up what the fireman said in the video about the cause of the fire in La Faba being unknown. I could hear him say the word chimenea - chimney - and it not having been in use recently or something like that.They don't know yet. The building was closed since Tuesday and no fire place was in use.
Thank you, @MinaKamina, for summing up what the fireman said in the video about the cause of the fire in La Faba being unknown. I could hear him say the word chimenea - chimney - and it not having been in use recently or something like that.
I learnt only recently that chimneys need to be cleaned because otherwise the thin layer of particles inside it can become highly inflammable. I am often amazed at the level of my ignorance. Since my childhood in a small village I have known that the officially appointed chimney sweeper comes once a year to clean our chimney (no open fireplace but central oil heating) but I never wondered why ... and from time to time I look at the Twitter feed of the Bomberos of Navarra, and other than rescuing exhausted pilgrims from the Route Napoleon they also frequently have photos of their recent tasks of extinguishing a fire that started in a chimney. The last such incidence was 22 hours ago ...
Anyway, the cause of this devastating fire in La Faba is unknown. I understand that the albergue was closed anyway and that the owner had been elsewhere and the place was unattended.
Well, my first thought was actually whether NYE fireworks had caused it ... but we will probably never know.f the fire had happened in certain areas around here, an old and abandoned building on New Years Eve, we would have had our suspicions obviously.
Landing on a slate roof?Well, my first thought was actually whether NYE fireworks had caused it ... but we will probably never know.
Very little point in speculating. In the end it's a real tragedy for La Faba community /village primarily and also pilgrims. From the photos of the damage it looks like it will be quite some time before redevelopment. Local regulations will deal with other matters I supposeLanding on a slate roof?
Yes, you're right, though. Who knows?
Anyone wanting to talk about locked doors and such, please don't derail this thread to do that.
There's already a place for that:
Not able to find origin or cause of fire. Some adjacent buildings were damaged. Albergue was closed on Tuesday prior to fire for purpose of remodeling.For those of us (shamefully) non-fluent-Spanish speakers, can anyone tell us if it says what they think started the fire? Thanks!
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