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- First one in 1977 by train. Many since then by foot. Next one ASAP.
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Don't know about Spain, but I took my husband's ashes back to Ireland in my carry-on backpack.I remember an old motion picture about the Camino.... The hero travels from the USA to St Jean PdeP France to collect the cremated remains of his son and take them home. But he then changes his mind and decides to carry the ashes to Santiago de Compostela. Off he goes, via the Route de Napoleon. He encounters no Spanish guards or customs officials at the Fuente de Roland, successfully carries his son's ashes over the border into Spain -- and nobody cares. Easy peasy!
Anyone actually done something like that? Carry ashes into Spain for sprinkling somewhere along the Way? If some old Camino amigo handed me a little box on his death bed and said "Please take a bit of my ashes to Spain!", could I? I ask because I may be facing that situation soon.
How much trouble might I get into if I tried? Would the police arrest me for deplaning at Barajas carrying a box of ashes in my pack? Would anybody care?
In Norway you have to get a permission to spread the ashes of someone in the nature. I was very surprised to see boxes ( urner in Norwegian) with names on the cross on the mountain above Benidorm on my first crossing of Sierra Gelada from Albir to Benidorm. Later those and a lot of other “memories”,was cleared away .
Perhaps you can ask the Spanish embassy or consulate about the legal situation in Spain.
... the Mournes were the most sanctified place for my Irish husband's ashes.
I did it. I spread a portion of my father's ashes at two points along the camino, which I carried in a tiny urn within a ziploc. You are required to bring a copy of the death and cremation certificate.I remember an old motion picture about the Camino.... The hero travels from the USA to St Jean PdeP France to collect the cremated remains of his son and take them home. But he then changes his mind and decides to carry the ashes to Santiago de Compostela. Off he goes, via the Route de Napoleon. He encounters no Spanish guards or customs officials at the Fuente de Roland, successfully carries his son's ashes over the border into Spain -- and nobody cares. Easy peasy!
Anyone actually done something like that? Carry ashes into Spain for sprinkling somewhere along the Way? If some old Camino amigo handed me a little box on his death bed and said "Please take a bit of my ashes to Spain!", could I? I ask because I may be facing that situation soon.
How much trouble might I get into if I tried? Would the police arrest me for deplaning at Barajas carrying a box of ashes in my pack? Would anybody care?
That would be The Way, with Martin Sheen, the movie that launched countless pilgrims.I remember an old motion picture about the Camino.... The hero travels from the USA to St Jean PdeP France to collect the cremated remains of his son and take them home.
It is well known that Germany has some of the most restrictive laws about the disposal of the ashes of deceased persons but that does not apply to Spain.In Germany there is a duty to bury human remains in a cemetery or similar recognised area
Yes I have done so.i took some of my husband’s ashes ( well disguised) in my pack.I remember an old motion picture about the Camino.... The hero travels from the USA to St Jean PdeP France to collect the cremated remains of his son and take them home. But he then changes his mind and decides to carry the ashes to Santiago de Compostela. Off he goes, via the Route de Napoleon. He encounters no Spanish guards or customs officials at the Fuente de Roland, successfully carries his son's ashes over the border into Spain -- and nobody cares. Easy peasy!
Anyone actually done something like that? Carry ashes into Spain for sprinkling somewhere along the Way? If some old Camino amigo handed me a little box on his death bed and said "Please take a bit of my ashes to Spain!", could I? I ask because I may be facing that situation soon.
How much trouble might I get into if I tried? Would the police arrest me for deplaning at Barajas carrying a box of ashes in my pack? Would anybody care?
that's right .... the Catholic Church reiterates its yes to cremation, but burial (the ashes of the deceased are kept in a sacred place, that is, in a cemetery or in a church or in an area specially dedicated to this purpose by the competent ecclesiastical authority) is the preferable practice and the conservation of the urn in the house or the dispersion of the ashes in the earth, water or air is not allowed.(Although I think Catholics have been advised to keep ashes in a "sacred place" - i.e. not scatter them?)
To be more precise, I didn't ask Ireland for permission to set my husband's ashes loose on the winds.
Nobody inquired; I didn't say.
The Wee Folk were there with me all the way... especially on the family property and on The Big Rock overlooking Attical at sunrise.not even the "little folk" ?
samarkand.
Anyone actually done something like that? Carry ashes into Spain for sprinkling somewhere along the Way?
Over the Years I have had many camino items left at the house from photographs, to walking poles, stones, or other trinkets but last Summer for the first time two English Sisters stopped at the house for a rest, sitting quietly in the garden for an hour or so. When it came time for them to continue on the way to Arzua they asked me if the my leave a small sprinkling of their fathers ashes in the garden. I felt very privaleged to have been asked and naturally said yes. They chose the spot in a quiet area which is full of natural flowers, rose and two grape vines, We exchanged contact details but have had no further contact. If either of you read or see this post I hope the camino gave you what you wer searching for.
Pilgrim Memorial Grove in Valdeviejas
Yep, as a minister and hospice chaplain I think your last loving act was perfect. Who could possibly object? I say carry the ashes to Spain and follow Martin Sheen’s portrayal of a father who was giving his son what he desired: a walk with him along the Camino.To be more precise, I didn't ask Ireland for permission to set my husband's ashes loose on the winds.
Nobody inquired; I didn't say.
I love this! I rather think that the entire earth—which includes the Camino—is a sanctified place.
I took some ashes from the US in 2015. I only took a small amount disguised in an empty “Beano” bottle (the particular friend who’s ashes I carried would have found that detail hysterical.) It was meaningful for me to share my Camino with her. Each time I sprinkled some ashes I took a photo and later shared those photos with her sister. Several years later that sister walked the Camino and felt the presence of her deceased sister as she walked knowing her ashes were scattered along the Way.I remember an old motion picture about the Camino.... The hero travels from the USA to St Jean PdeP France to collect the cremated remains of his son and take them home. But he then changes his mind and decides to carry the ashes to Santiago de Compostela. Off he goes, via the Route de Napoleon. He encounters no Spanish guards or customs officials at the Fuente de Roland, successfully carries his son's ashes over the border into Spain -- and nobody cares. Easy peasy!
Anyone actually done something like that? Carry ashes into Spain for sprinkling somewhere along the Way? If some old Camino amigo handed me a little box on his death bed and said "Please take a bit of my ashes to Spain!", could I? I ask because I may be facing that situation soon.
How much trouble might I get into if I tried? Would the police arrest me for deplaning at Barajas carrying a box of ashes in my pack? Would anybody care?
Anyone actually done something like that?
The security check at the airport noticed the small bottle and pulled me aside for a brief inquiry. I explained what the bottle contained and indicated I had the documents mentioned above, including a letter from the funeral home documenting my intent. The officer offered his condolences and wished me a good trip. I found a special spot where I placed the ashes and felt at peace.In sum, it says you'll need: 1. death certificate, 2. cremation certificate, and 3. statement from funeral home detailing the content of the urn...
Oh my. That looks terribly complicated. I think a few ashes in an envelope is the way to go.Found this on the Spanish Consulate in NYC website: http://www.exteriores.gob.es/Consul...ork/Transport-of-Mortal-Remains-to-Spain.aspx
In sum, it says you'll need: 1. death certificate, 2. cremation certificate, and 3. statement from funeral home detailing the content of the urn...
... and then be sure to check any restrictions with the airline! (I know that some will insist on certain types of containers - contents must be scannable - and it's very NB that the container is NOT in hold luggage, as the airline won't accept liability for loss of such a "priceless" item).
It’s a wet Sunday afternoon, so I thought I might expand on my earlier post. My wife’s grandmother Doris passed away at the age of 100 about a decade ago. In her 20s and 30s she was a seasoned international tourist - very unusual for any but the very rich in the 1930’s and 50s. Doris travelled and dined on the cheap.
On one trip she found herself in Monte Carlo and settled down to eat her sandwiches on the steps of the casino. She was removed from there in short order and still talked about it 70 years later.
On her death, ashes were allocated to the three grandchildren. Two were boring and did nothing special, but my wife immediately packed a bag, including a portion of Doris, and set off for Monte where, whilst the door staff were distracted by an accomplice (cough!) the ashes were scattered.
Moral of the story: never p*** off a woman from Wigan. It may take them 80 years, but they’ll win in the end. Even if they’re dead.
You win the internet with this post. Brilliant.It’s a wet Sunday afternoon, so I thought I might expand on my earlier post. My wife’s grandmother Doris passed away at the age of 100 about a decade ago. In her 20s and 30s she was a seasoned international tourist - very unusual for any but the very rich in the 1930’s and 50s. Doris travelled and dined on the cheap.
On one trip she found herself in Monte Carlo and settled down to eat her sandwiches on the steps of the casino. She was removed from there in short order and still talked about it 70 years later.
On her death, ashes were allocated to the three grandchildren. Two were boring and did nothing special, but my wife immediately packed a bag, including a portion of Doris, and set off for Monte where, whilst the door staff were distracted by an accomplice (cough!) the ashes were scattered.
Moral of the story: never p*** off a woman from Wigan. It may take them 80 years, but they’ll win in the end. Even if they’re dead.
When we arrived at the Cruz de ferro in April 2018 there was a lady from the US who spreadING some of her sins ashes there. It was a very somber, emotional time. I hadn’t met her before nor have I since but do think of her occasionally.I remember an old motion picture about the Camino.... The hero travels from the USA to St Jean PdeP France to collect the cremated remains of his son and take them home. But he then changes his mind and decides to carry the ashes to Santiago de Compostela. Off he goes, via the Route de Napoleon. He encounters no Spanish guards or customs officials at the Fuente de Roland, successfully carries his son's ashes over the border into Spain -- and nobody cares. Easy peasy!
Anyone actually done something like that? Carry ashes into Spain for sprinkling somewhere along the Way? If some old Camino amigo handed me a little box on his death bed and said "Please take a bit of my ashes to Spain!", could I? I ask because I may be facing that situation soon.
How much trouble might I get into if I tried? Would the police arrest me for deplaning at Barajas carrying a box of ashes in my pack? Would anybody care?
sorry her son’s ashesWhen we arrived at the Cruz de ferro in April 2018 there was a lady from the US who spreadING some of her sins ashes there. It was a very somber, emotional time. I hadn’t met her before nor have I since but do think of her occasionally.
Henry, I join online each night for Compline prayers with the Church of St. Mary the Virgin in Leigh, Wigan, a place I have never been in real life! The vicar there is a loveably witty man, like your Doris... I shall have visit there someday. I like those people!
Carrying an entire cremated body may raise eyebrows, and is quite heavy! Last year I took a small envelope filled with my late husband’s ashes all the way from Australia and I walked 3 pilgrimages back to back (2,000 kilometres) carrying them. No one knew and no one asked. I offered them in a very private location into the ocean at Muxia on his birthday, July 9th. He wanted to walk with me, and he did - it was very special to be able to do this for him, and for me.I remember an old motion picture about the Camino.... The hero travels from the USA to St Jean PdeP France to collect the cremated remains of his son and take them home. But he then changes his mind and decides to carry the ashes to Santiago de Compostela. Off he goes, via the Route de Napoleon. He encounters no Spanish guards or customs officials at the Fuente de Roland, successfully carries his son's ashes over the border into Spain -- and nobody cares. Easy peasy!
Anyone actually done something like that? Carry ashes into Spain for sprinkling somewhere along the Way? If some old Camino amigo handed me a little box on his death bed and said "Please take a bit of my ashes to Spain!", could I? I ask because I may be facing that situation soon.
How much trouble might I get into if I tried? Would the police arrest me for deplaning at Barajas carrying a box of ashes in my pack? Would anybody care?
I remember an old motion picture about the Camino.... The hero travels from the USA to St Jean PdeP France to collect the cremated remains of his son and take them home. But he then changes his mind and decides to carry the ashes to Santiago de Compostela. Off he goes, via the Route de Napoleon. He encounters no Spanish guards or customs officials at the Fuente de Roland, successfully carries his son's ashes over the border into Spain -- and nobody cares. Easy peasy!
Anyone actually done something like that? Carry ashes into Spain for sprinkling somewhere along the Way? If some old Camino amigo handed me a little box on his death bed and said "Please take a bit of my ashes to Spain!", could I? I ask because I may be facing that situation soon.
How much trouble might I get into if I tried? Would the police arrest me for deplaning at Barajas carrying a box of ashes in my pack? Would anybody care?
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