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Im pretty sure it was Sawyer. Bright yellow trigger pack.Thank you. I will look online for a product. Do you recall the name of the product?
I saw it and asked about it at Paddy Palin 2 weeks ago and although they said it could be used on clothing, they strongly advised against using it for our sleeping bags and/liners. It left me a bit confusedIn Australia its called Debugger and you can get it in stores like Paddy Pallin. I am one day away from Santiago and started in SJPDP. Depending on when you leave you may not need it.
Just a word of advice do not use this any where near domestic cats! It is fatal if they’re exposed to this chemical.Sawyer is a popular brand in the US. https://sawyer.com/products/permethrin-insect-repellent-treatment/
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Just a word of advice do not use this any where near domestic cats! It is fatal if they’re exposed to this chemical.
Hi Mikey, once dried it is safe against the skin. I used it previously to treat clothing when trekking in jungle where mozzies and malaria was the problem.Just a reminder that official advice from the US EPA cautions that permethrin treated articles be washed separately. This is because permethrin is only approved for outer clothing and separate washing avoids transfer to underwear or similar. I would be extremely hesitant about applying it to pillowcases and liners which receive a lot of skin contact.
Hi, I have been reading some information recently about pretreating clothing, boots, bags etc with something called permethrin as a preventative move against bed bugs. I would appreciate any advice on this as we begin our preparations for our camino.
Here is a good podcast about bed bugs from Dr. Michael Potter, an entomologist with "great expertise in the realm of bed bugs". This is Dave Whitson's podcast. A great place to learn many things Camino.
Listen to Episode24 - Round Trip (and Bed Bugs!) by The Camino Podcast #np on #SoundCloud
https://soundcloud.com/user-939742370%2Fepisode24-round-trip-and-bed-bugs
Indeed they do! I watched one land on my arm once.because the bugs will fall down onto the guy in the bottom bunk !
Indeed they do! I watched one land on my arm once.
Maybe his legs just got tired...It was bad enough when they crawled. Don't tell me they've started dive bombing as well!
G'day Dogstar, if you live in Sydney or Melbourne just head in to the city (Syd - Kent St / Melbourne - Elizabeth near Burke St / otherwise do a google search for one of the Aussie on line stores) and one on the outdoors shops will have what you need. I have used it couple of times - spraying backpack / sleeping bag / liner very thoroughly about a week of 10 days before departure. Let it all air dry away from direct sunlight. BUT (and this is a big but) do your diligence and check the beds and blankets and other areas before you put any of your gear down. Buen Camino!!Hi, I have been reading some information recently about pretreating clothing, boots, bags etc with something called permethrin as a preventative move against bed bugs. I would appreciate any advice on this as we begin our preparations for our camino. If this pretreatment is recommended, where in Australia would I be able to purchase this product?
Thanks.
I saw it and asked about it at Paddy Palin 2 weeks ago and although they said it could be used on clothing, they strongly advised against using it for our sleeping bags and/liners. It left me a bit confused
Permethrin is not a repellent. Its repellent properties have been shown to be minimal in tests. It is an insecticide. It probably won't pick up a lethal dose crossing a zipper. Its primary effectiveness is killing bugs if they are in your equipment. Exposed skin is not protected. Use DEET if you want something proven to be effective.Treat the edges/zip area if my sleeping bag too, but nothing inside or around the hood area/skin contact areas.
Permethrin is not a repellent. Its repellent properties have been shown to be minimal in tests. It is an insecticide. It probably won't pick up a lethal dose crossing a zipper. Its primary effectiveness is killing bugs if they are in your equipment. Exposed skin is not protected. Use DEET if you want something proven to be effective.
Thanks for the information about bed bug spray. We are intending to walk from SJPP to Pamplona then cycling from there to Ponferrada. Then walking to Santiago. I would appreciate and hints etc for cycling.G'day Dogstar, if you live in Sydney or Melbourne just head in to the city (Syd - Kent St / Melbourne - Elizabeth near Burke St / otherwise do a google search for one of the Aussie on line stores) and one on the outdoors shops will have what you need. I have used it couple of times - spraying backpack / sleeping bag / liner very thoroughly about a week of 10 days before departure. Let it all air dry away from direct sunlight. BUT (and this is a big but) do your diligence and check the beds and blankets and other areas before you put any of your gear down. Buen Camino!!
Thanks for the information about bed bug spray. We are intending to walk from SJPP to Pamplona then cycling from there to Ponferrada. Then walking to Santiago. I would appreciate and hints etc for cycling.
I buy Yates permethrin from Bunnings and use it diluted as for fruit trees. I soak or spray my backpack and outer layers of my sleeping bag in it and let them dry. Haven’t had any problems with bedbugs on two Caminos. Hope it’s the same in July!Hi, I have been reading some information recently about pretreating clothing, boots, bags etc with something called permethrin as a preventative move against bed bugs. I would appreciate any advice on this as we begin our preparations for our camino. If this pretreatment is recommended, where in Australia would I be able to purchase this product?
Thanks.
Hi, I have been reading some information recently about pretreating clothing, boots, bags etc with something called permethrin as a preventative move against bed bugs. I would appreciate any advice on this as we begin our preparations for our camino. If this pretreatment is recommended, where in Australia would I be able to purchase this product?
Thanks.
They will be found on all routes. The French have posters and brochures in virtually every accommodation. Bed bugs are reported most on the Camino Frances because hundreds of thousands of pilgrims travel it each year.Is it maily on the Frances, or all routes? Is it only in the albergues? Can one expect them in the hotels and hostales?
I never had any issue with bedbugs, but I did use cedar wood oil in my wash, and sprinkled on beddingHi, I have been reading some information recently about pretreating clothing, boots, bags etc with something called permethrin as a preventative move against bed bugs. I would appreciate any advice on this as we begin our preparations for our camino. If this pretreatment is recommended, where in Australia would I be able to purchase this product?
Thanks.
Oh no chemical! organic essential oil.I have severe doubts about this stuff, I think I'd prefer to take my chances with the bed bugs than to sleep in a sleeping bag that's been doused in chemicals. Bed bugs are unpleasant, not dangerous in any way.
Exactly... check the bed b4 u climb in.... also... never put your pack on the bed!Bedbugs are on the increase internationally and the are everywhere, but I don't think to the levels of 'epidemic'. With 300,000 compostella annually, that is a big population and there is no survey to get a scientific count. The albergues are well aware of the problems and are as vigilant as they can be--far more so than many hotels. In about 350 nights in Spain and France, I have seen bedbugs twice on the Frances and been bitten twice in French hotels (and 4 times in San Francisco hotels).
Just take normal precautions (check bed area for blood meal spots) and treat your gear with permethrin to avoid the hitchhikers and put DEET on open skin if you are allergic. Then enjoy your Camino!
Probably because it doesn't really work https://www.bedbugsbites.net/get-rid-bed-bugs-dryer-sheets/It's surprising that no one has mentioned dryer sheets. I'm wary of DEET and Permethrin. Bounce brand dryer sheets have been working for me for years. Mosquitos, bed bugs and other pests seem to avoid them. I carry a ziplock with a supply of them in my pack, pull one out and wipe down clothing and exposed skin, then then hang it in a pocket. Seems to repel everything except snoring.
Most Walmart stores carry it. Try the camping section in the store.Sawyer is a popular brand in the US. https://sawyer.com/products/permethrin-insect-repellent-treatment/
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Probably because it doesn't really work https://www.bedbugsbites.net/get-rid-bed-bugs-dryer-sheets/
It's not a sure fire way to repel them:Thank you for the link. I read it, and it says exactly what I was saying. It repels them. It doesn't kill them, but either result is fine with me.
The Sawyer Permethrin is designed to be sprayed on clothing, shoes, etc. I will be spraying the outside of my pack and sleeping bag and hanging them to dry, before our trip. We are also taking a bottle of permethrin with us. It will stay on fabric for weeks, and will last thru a number of washins. There are very good instructions on the bottle. We use it in Michigan for ticks.I saw it and asked about it at Paddy Palin 2 weeks ago and although they said it could be used on clothing, they strongly advised against using it for our sleeping bags and/liners. It left me a bit confused
Except for annoying other pilgrims in the albergue with the smell.so I guess there's no harm in bringing them.
Thank you for the link. I read it, and it says exactly what I was saying. It repels them. It doesn't kill them, but either result is fine with me.
One article. What I know is that they work for me. Maybe I'm just lucky and they are my "Dumbo's feather", but I still use them and share them.
Davebugg, I spent some time in the same place you did. I'm eternally grateful for the lifesaving service you guys provided.
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