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Again the hospitalero at Le Faba seemed indifferent about it, when my wife suggested he contact the albergue in Villafranca.
I had the opposite experience at the German albergue in La Faba when I brought bugs there from Ave Fenix in 2011. The hospitalera debugged me and my kit, allowing me to stay an extra night.
Ave Fenix and the Municipal across the street had an infestation in late July 2013, luckily I got the last bed at Albergue de la Piedra.
Usually the Hospitaleros at La Faba are strict about no backpacks on beds etc. The biggest offenders on backpacks on their beds are the ones doing the last 150km.
I recommend Casa Barbadelo, a few km past Sarria, a nice place to stay and they have a clothes dryer there.
My wife is reporting that she had come down with bed bug bites again - twice on the same camino.
A woman who stayed at the Refugio Ave Fenix in Villafranca reported seeing there and then getting bed bugs herself. This woman along with others reported getting bed bugs at the same albergue.
She reported it to the hospitalero who seemed indifferent about it and was not interested in doing something.
To make matters worse, the same woman then stayed at the albergue in La Faba sleeping nearby my wife, passing on the bed bugs to my wife and a number of other people, so this albergue is also affected.
Again the hospitalero at Le Faba seemed indifferent about it, when my wife suggested he contact the albergue in Villafranca.
She is now staying outside of Triacastela at a private alberque. My wife has just had her pack and sleeping bag sprayed again and she is hoping to get to Sarria tomorrow to find an albergue whereby she can hot wash and dry all of her clothes - yet again.
My wife is extremely upset and very disappointed about the behaviour of various pilgrims who continue to bring their boots inside, leave their packs on the beds, and generally show complete disregard to others.
After talking to her today via FaceTime, I can almost guarantee that she will not be walking the Camino Frances ever again!
Thanks for the information. I have emailed her with the details.
Tomorrow is Sunday so I am not sure if she will find too many open stores.Casa Barbadelo was the most luxurious albergue I have stayed in, there are no stores in Barbadelo so stock up in Sarria before heading up.
They do have a cafeteria and a beautiful lounge to relax in the main building, the 8 person rooms have separate en suite W/C and showers for each room, some of the rooms have 2 separate en suite showers.
I have to speak up for Ave Fenix. A couple of years ago I planned on staying there, but found bedbugs, and so reported them. The hospitalera apologized profusely and found us a private house to stay in. But not before explaining that the previous week, Jesus had taken ALL the beds out of the rooms, bombed the rooms, took a BLOWTORCH to the metal frames, bought new mattresses for some beds and sprayed the rest outside, cleaned the rooms completely, then took all the beds back into the now bedbug free albergue. Two days later, a peregrina came through carrying bedbugs and they were infested again.
I know I have complained myself when hospitaleros shrug, but honestly, unless somebody begins vigilantly policing and educating the pilgrims at the BEGINNING of the Camino, I can see how they just get burnt out by this time of year...
Unless EVERYONE works on the problem together, it will continue to get worse...
That is a good article. Thank you!!!My understanding is that "Bedbugs happen". I did the camino in 2011. I started out staying in albergues and switched to private rooms in hostels about halfway through for two reasons: 1) BEDBUGS!!! My albergue friends were getting infested over and over again... no matter how vigilant they were. 2) I could afford the cheap hostels and I decided to leave the albergue beds to those that could not afford anything else.
That being said, I did not personally experience bedbugs, but once home I treated EVERYTHING as if it were infested before I allowed it to pass my doorstep. You do NOT want to chance bringing those things home! EVERYTHING I brought home went in my oven on "warm" for 2 hours. I mean EVERYTHING!
Here's a good article on killing bedbugs with heat:
http://www.vdacs.virginia.gov/pesticides/pdffiles/bb-heat1.pdf
Hi Christine, I have not heard that. I do know that the silk liners are comfortable and very light weight. You may want to spray it though. Perhaps others will weigh in on this....I'm hiking my first Camino in June and putting together a kit. I bought a silk liner for my sleeping bag, because I read somewhere that the bedbugs can't or won't breach the silk. True or false?
False..........VicrevI'm hiking my first Camino in June and putting together a kit. I bought a silk liner for my sleeping bag, because I read somewhere that the bedbugs can't or won't breach the silk. True or false?
I'm hiking my first Camino in June and putting together a kit. I bought a silk liner for my sleeping bag, because I read somewhere that the bedbugs can't or won't breach the silk. True or false?
But it is more important on how not give them to others which personally seems to be the bigger issue this year.
So how do we dissuade the hitchhikers? When I took them from Ave Fenix to La Faba, I didn't know I had them; I thought my bites were mosquitoes. Incidentally this is the only occasion where I have been bitten and taken the bugs with me. I have ben bitten on several other occasions ( three this year) and NOT taken them with me. Was there any difference in my actions? Yes there was. The time I took hitchers, I was using my sleeping bag. On other occasions I was not. I believe they took up residence in the sleeping bag, because that is where they found food.
I'm hiking my first Camino in June and putting together a kit. I bought a silk liner for my sleeping bag, because I read somewhere that the bedbugs can't or won't breach the silk. True or false?
New and energetic Moderators!Does anyone know why all the posts are being moved in the last few days ?
The moderators with Ivar's blessing decided to move all the various threads on bed bugs into one forum.Does anyone know why all the posts are being moved in the last few days ?
I understand why say questions about the Portugues camino or such would be moved, but moving threads on issues about the Frances will make them difficult to find especialy for people who go directly to the Frances page. Too much housekeeping can be as bad as none.The moderators with Ivar's blessing decided to move all the various threads on bed bugs into one forum.
So far 47 separate threads have been moved. Susannafromsweden has done most of the leg work, so she has been busy
We thought this would make it easier for members to locate posts on this very active topic if they were all in one forum
Thanks for the information. I have emailed her with the details.
Let us know if Casa Barbadelo works out for your wife.
That is not a factor in bed bugs. They eat only blood from live hosts. Cleanliness can be a factor in a thorough treatment for bed bugs, but they live in walls, floors, crevices, and bunk bed joints, all of which can be sparklingly clean. Clutter creates more hiding spaces, so clutter can obstruct extermination. You can find bed bugs in the cleanest of accommodations. Conversely, a hovel can be bed bug-free. Your very tidy home can become infested if you bring back the hosts.the general cleanliness of the facility
Reminds me........ Which was first, the chicken or the egg? If pilgrims who are "infected" and know about yet do nothing about it - the plague will continue.
If albergues are "infected", know about it and do nothing about it - the plague will continue.
Buen Camino!
if Atapuerca is to be believed).
Good post. Thx....Bed bugs do not hide in the blankets and pillows; they dwell in walls and bunk crevices. Naturally, blankets stored on bunks are as likely to harbor a bed bug as any other place on the bunk. I am just saying that blankets and pillows do not draw bed bugs any more than does a sheet.
Hanging your backpack from the bunk corner post will make it more difficult for the bed bugs to enter. They go where there is blood to suck, so are not drawn to climb ropes. You will need a carabiner or cord loop to hang the backpack on some bunks. On some, the hoist loop will fit over the top.
Permethrin helps. A garbage bag helps, particularly if the alternative is putting your pack on the floor! Bed bugs will wander around items stored on the floor looking for a place to spend the night.
Bed bugs will be active by May, but early in the season they are less likely to have been transported between albergues. By September, if one albergue has had bed bugs, all the rest are in danger.
If you find you were bitten by bugs at my house, and you tell me about it the next morning, what response would you consider "appropriate?"
I probably would not apologize to you. I would wonder why you brought your bugs into my bedroom, which I now will have to take to pieces!
Reb knows she does not have bed bugs. If there suddenly are bed bugs, the pilgrim brought them.Why couldn´t it be that that person DID get them at your place
Reb knows she does not have bed bugs. If there suddenly are bed bugs, the pilgrim brought them.
Perhaps those who operate albergues know a little something about bed bugs!
Bed bug eggs hatch in 4 to 12 days. If the bed bug is alive, the pilgrim probably brought it. Reb inspects her premises, so she knows if there are any signs of live bed bugs. If there have not been any signs, then it is very unlikely that an earlier bed bug arrived, laid eggs, and the eggs hatched to infest a just-arriving pilgrim.
When a clean place finds a bed bug, its hitchhiker is not far away! Pilgrims are the problem, which does not mean that a hospitalero should not take action. But we need to put the "blame" where it belongs on the pilgrim. Pilgrims can treat their equipment so that bed bugs do not hitchhike. All albergues can do is kill a current infestation knowing that another one will be coming with some pilgrim.
My wife is reporting that she had come down with bed bug bites again - twice on the same camino.
A woman who stayed at the Refugio Ave Fenix in Villafranca reported seeing there and then getting bed bugs herself. This woman along with others reported getting bed bugs at the same albergue.
She reported it to the hospitalero who seemed indifferent about it and was not interested in doing something.
To make matters worse, the same woman then stayed at the albergue in La Faba sleeping nearby my wife, passing on the bed bugs to my wife and a number of other people, so this albergue is also affected.
Again the hospitalero at Le Faba seemed indifferent about it, when my wife suggested he contact the albergue in Villafranca.
She is now staying outside of Triacastela at a private alberque. My wife has just had her pack and sleeping bag sprayed again and she is hoping to get to Sarria tomorrow to find an albergue whereby she can hot wash and dry all of her clothes - yet again.
My wife is extremely upset and very disappointed about the behaviour of various pilgrims who continue to bring their boots inside, leave their packs on the beds, and generally show complete disregard to others.
After talking to her today via FaceTime, I can almost guarantee that she will not be walking the Camino Frances ever again!
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