LIVE from the Camino Best camino 'come back' (retort)

BShea

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(9/2013) Le Puy
(5/2015) CF
(5/2016) Le Puy
(5/2017) CF
(9/2017) Le Puy
(9/2019) RL Stevenson

• Jun 13, 2017

• #1

"Bienvenidos. Do you have a reservation?"

"Uh... No... I'm not a tourist. I'm a pilgrim."

 

Waka

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Some but not all, and other routes too.

• Jun 13, 2017

• #2

Nice one.

 

jgpryde

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St.Jean-Santiago (2017)

• Jun 13, 2017

• #3

Interesting distinction between tourist and pilgrim.
Perhaps if the question is asked, it is not really an alburgue but a hostel. The definitions I see online don't seem to be that specific.

In any case, pilgrim, tourist, Knight Errant, lost wandering soul, whatever ones self perception, I don't see it as entitlement to special consideration.

In medieval (pre-internet) times a benevolent but fully booked innkeeper might offer their stable to sleep with the horses. Along with all of the modern conveniences, today's traveler needs to accommodate today's business models.

IMHO,


-jgp

 

Annie Little

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Frances Sept-Oct 2016

• Jun 13, 2017

• #4

jgpryde said:

In any case, pilgrim, tourist, Knight Errant, lost wandering soul, whatever ones self perception, I don't see it as entitlement to special consideration.

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Spot on .... who determines this bull...t ..... self perception is a dangerous thing ... isn't it

 

Felipe

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• Jun 13, 2017

• #5

I agree with the general principle, but...
Actually, in France reserving is customary. There are little albergues, sometimes with only 6-8 beds. And the regulations are strictly enforced ("la loi c'est la loi"), so no people sleeping on the floor or in the attic. If you arrive without reservation, and the albergue is full, the hospi will have a difficult situation, start making calls to find you an accomodation, etc.

 

SYates

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First: Camino Francés 1999
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Last: Santiago - Muxia 2019

Now: http://egeria.house/

• Jun 14, 2017

• #6

BShea said:

"Bienvenidos. Do you have a reservation?"

"Uh... No... I'm not a tourist. I'm a pilgrim."

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Good luck trying that one at the moment in Santiago! The albergues are full, so as a pilgrim without reservation you might end up with a very traditional sleeping place - under the stars

Buen Camino, SY

 

J Willhaus

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2016, 2022, 2023, 2024, planned 2025

• Jun 17, 2017

• #7

I think we witnessed it both ways. In some places no reservations are allowed and the pilgrim must have a credential to stay. Other places it was made somewhat clear to us that Pilgrims were not very welcome.

 

SusanPaulus

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Camino Francis
Camino Norte
May-July (2017)
Siljansleden (2018)

• Jun 19, 2017

• #8

A few days ago I arrived at a pension that was completely shut down. One shirtless guy came out from who knows where and started waving his arms at me as I walked closer. Then started yelling in Spanish "closed closed closed"...I yelled back in Spanish "for me you better open up then...I have a reservation". He laughed and said oh yeah. He explained that they don't open till the busy season next week but somehow they took my reservation. This happened to me 3 times. Had the entire place to myself...downside was no hot water...but I had an ocean view that night and slept to the sound of waves instead of snoring.