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Hello,
I have reserved a night in an Albergue and the confirmation says Fecha de entrada: 2024-06-05. In the UK we would write this as 05-06-2024, is that what this means, 5th June 2024, I am just checking as I think the USA write it differently.
Of course I could email the Albergue but I suspect they could be busy at the moment and could do with out extra work.
Thanks in advance
Yes, that is what I think I booked, but I begin to doubt myself sometimes.If you booked for 5th June this is what it means. The USA date convention (month/day) is often seen across European bookings.
It’s fine! It not uncommon at all, even when booked through European sites. Sites feed off each other.Yes, that is what I think I booked, but I begin to doubt myself sometimes.
Thank you, just needed a little reassurance.It’s fine! It not uncommon at all, even when booked through European sites. Sites feed off each other.
Sure it can be confusing and disconcerting when you experience it for the first time, esp. on a European site!Thank you, just needed a little reassurance.
You can improve this method by sleeping under a tent the 12 first days of each month, booking only from the 13th.Safety in numbers, just do your bookings for 6/6, 7/7, 8/8....no worries.
"**it happens" and I hope you had a great meal on the segundo dia. Thank God in Portugal, Sunday says something about our Lord and Monday is Segunda Feira or we would all be lost about calendar days.I made a mistake booking a train when I was inexperienced because I made our reservations based on the day of the week. I hadn't noticed that Spain's calendar week started on a Monday instead of our Sunday. The easy fix was to extend our stay in Barcelona by a day.
Plus, when the date is in decreasing order (with leading zeros) at the start of the names of files their listings come up arranged in chronological and alphabetical order both.The ISO format is yyyy-mm-dd. I find it much easier since when I see 03-05-2024, depending on the source, I can't tell if it is May 3rd or March 5th. With the ISO format there is no confusion.
...just check your booking by emailing or phonimg them, instead of asking the internet.Yes, that is what I think I booked, but I begin to doubt myself sometimes.
Safety in numbers, just do your bookings for 6/6, 7/7, 8/8....no worries.
I was going to suggest the same but @Pafayac beat me to it. If you see anything like 2024-13-xx or xx-13-2024 you darn well know what that date is overall.You can improve this method by sleeping under a tent the 12 first days of each month, booking only from the 13th.
Behind the scenes FWIW, all time stamps in software are recorded YYYY MM DD HH mm ss (and possibly further divisions of seconds if needed by the software, and certainly financial software records but does not usually make use of at least 10ths and 100ths of seconds).- YYYY-MM-DD, more oriented to business processing.
Beyond the shadow of a doubt: When is says fecha de entrada and has been communicated to you from an albergue in Spain then 2024-06-05 means 5th June 2024.I have reserved a night in an Albergue and the confirmation says Fecha de entrada: 2024-06-05. In the UK we would write this as 05-06-2024, is that what this means, 5th June 2024, I am just checking as I think the USA write it differently.
Most helpful, thank you.Beyond the shadow of a doubt: When is says fecha de entrada and has been communicated to you from an albergue in Spain then 2024-06-05 means 5th June 2024.
Tip: You asked about communication of a date to you so this is about general communication: In English, when discussing dates for a meeting, I always include the name of the day of the week and write: Wednesday 5 June 2024.
And if you want to know how 5th June is written by some of your fellow European peregrin@s in the way they are are familiar with, drop it into www.deepl.com.
Spanish: 5 de junioFrench: 5 juinDanish: 5. juni or den 5. juni
Whether de, dot, or no addition to the day's number, when a date is written in the long form, the day's number always comes first in these languages.
How about jacket zippers? Europe zippers are inserted rightie while leftie in US. Tylenol/Acetaminophen (Paracetamol) pills with 1000 mg each. Clothing product tags are almost a foot long, an inch maybe in US.Welcome to Europe!
Now that you have discovered the European date format, now we can move on to a discussion of comma as decimal point, slashes in the number seven, and many other European cultural differences.
This is just the first of many lessons. You have lots to learn about Europe!
-Paul
@pjacobi: Please note that the OP @Bedspring is from the UK. It says so in the profile information and in the first post ("In the UK we would write").Welcome to Europe!
Now that you have discovered the European date format, now we can move on to a discussion of comma as decimal point, slashes in the number seven, and many other European cultural differences.
This is just the first of many lessons. You have lots to learn about Europe!
I'm not arguing, merely stating a fact. There should be no "we regard" since UK geographically IS Europe! Everything West of Ural mountains is Europe. Just because UK is no longer a member of EU it didn’t somehow physically and mystically got transported into a different realmWe here on the Continent still regard the UK as part of Europe. Even when our common motto (it is "United in Diversity" - very appropriate albeit not widely known) ceased to be applicable to the OP's part of Europe since a few years ago ...
I think the issue here was not so much what OP wrote but what their confirmation said. As such, yeah, go tell the rest of the world how they should write stuff.... good luckHave you ever thought about using letters for the month. That’s what I did at Via Francigena. I translated the three months using from German to French and wrote it that way. No confusing at all.
Trust me, I am well aware of the discussions of where "Europe" ends and what the word "Europe" can stand for. The comment I made was obviously a bit tongue in cheek because @pjacobi (and others) may not be aware of the diversity and the fact that there is no such thing as a "European" date format - the sequence of the digits perhaps but not the format of the date in written form - see the use of dots, slashes, and other finer points of numerous differences. @pjacobi's post to which my reply referred started with the comment "Welcome to Europe" although the OP is from the UK!!!I'm not arguing, merely stating a fact. There should be no "we regard" since UK geographically IS Europe!
Could be the plot of a fantasy novel. All of the UK moved to a different dimension (realm).Just because UK is no longer a member of EU it didn’t somehow physically and mystically got transported into a different realm
I can't access the OED because I don't have an account. However, from what I see they have two definitions for "Europe". One is something like "a northern continent connected to Asia" and the other one is something like "the European Union and its predecessors". Has come into use since 1957.merely stating a fact
I don't consider where I am from part of Europe and it is certainly west of the Ural mountains. The UK is clearly not part of continental Europe, being islands. Where you want to draw the line in the ocean is a political decision. And, of course, we don't want to get into politics.Everything West of Ural mountains is Europe.
Erm … there is. The part of the Atlantic Ocean that is known as La Manche and also as the English Channel is, well, part of the Atlantic Ocean.Of course not! B-b-but David, there IS no ocean between the Continent and the islands!
I always thought that the water that laps against the shores of France and Belgium and the Netherlands was the Atlantic Ocean and there is no practical difference between that water and the water between the islands of the United Kingdom and Continental Europe. The English Channel is part of the Atlantic Ocean, so that's the ocean you seem to be missing.Of course not! B-b-but David, there IS no ocean between the Continent and the islands!
Except for inland seas isn't all the water in all the oceans and seas connected?I always thought that the water that laps against the shores of France and Belgium and the Netherlands was the Atlantic Ocean and there is no practical difference between that water and the water between the islands of the United Kingdom and Continental Europe.
That is also about where you draw the line.Except for inland seas isn't all the water in all the oceans and seas connected?
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