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I am ONLY stating this as a basis for stating that any other walk, with a destination other than Santiago is not, strictly speaking, a route of the Camino de Santiago. Of course, a person who is walking anywhere for any other reason can do whatever they please. But, it is a hike, not a Camino.
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So, while it is possible to cobble segments of various routes together into a marvelous hike across Spain, it is NOT a Camino unless it terminates at Santiago. it would be more properly construed as a long-distance hike following parts of various Camino routes.
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I hope this helps the dialog.
Remember that, pre-reformation in the early 1500's, there was only one Christian church. And that Church was and continues to be ruled by the Pope, in Rome.
In the spirit of being persnickety, I'm pretty sure I walked the Camino Ignaciano from Azpeitia in the Basque Country to Manresa outside of Barcelona two years ago. I even have a certificate to prove it in my "put these in my coffin for the bonfire" file. I may be committing heresy on this forum but "Camino" is just a Spanish word for "walk", "path" or "way".......
I am ONLY stating this as a basis for stating that any other walk, with a destination other than Santiago is not, strictly speaking, a route of the Camino de Santiago. Of course, a person who is walking anywhere for any other reason can do whatever they please. But, it is a hike, not a Camino.
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So, while it is possible to cobble segments of various routes together into a marvelous hike across Spain, it is NOT a Camino unless it terminates at Santiago. it would be more properly construed as a long-distance hike following parts of various Camino routes
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For better or for worse, that is not the criteria. It is the last 100km to the tomb of St. James, and Fisterra does not qualify as a starting point.still have done over 100k
Yes - I get that ! Am I being stupid (probably knowing me !For better or for worse, that is not the criteria. It is the last 100km to the tomb of St. James, and Fisterra does not qualify as a starting point.
That would work.But if you walk non stop from say Porto to Santiago but do a loop via Finisterre
I can't find any mention of Compostela (as a document) in the OP that's why I'm reading this thread and wondering why it got so diverted from the OP...You are of course totally correct. The root word for walking, the verb, is caminar. The term 'el Camino' means 'The Way.'
In my post, I was only reflecting the Cathedral rules that state that Compostelas are only issued for pilgrimages that terminate at the Cathedral in Santiago. Then again, many pilgrims, an increasing number actually, eschew the Compostela all together.
That is reflective of Camino Rule One, everyone does their own Camino and no other person is positioned to pass judgment. I do not.
I hope this clarifies.
Aha !! You see - that's what I thought the OP was asking. Good to know I'm not totally madThat would work.
It would also work if you go from Fisterra via Muxia to SdC (or vice versa).Aha !! You see - that's what I thought the OP was asking. Good to know I'm not totally mad
Well I'm heading out to my 3rd Camino on Monday and I'll be happy just to arrive in SdC in one piece.... ...and this time I'm looking forward to my first walk to Muxia and Fisterra - after a day of recovery.It would also work if you go from Fisterra via Muxia to SdC (or vice versa).
Bom Caminho!Well I'm heading out to my 3rd Camino on Monday and I'll be happy just to arrive in SdC in one piece.... ...and this time I'm looking forward to my first walk to Muxia and Fisterra - after a day of recovery.
Not true. The distance from Fisterra (let's say you came by boat to this point) via Muxia to Santiago is recognized as suitable for Compostela. Same if you start in Muxia and walk through Fisterra to Santiago. So this "one point" would be either Fisterra or Muxia in this case. Simple.The Pilgrim Office website states that to qualify for the Compostela:
"It is understood that the pilgrimage starts at one point and from there you come to visit the Tomb of St. James." i.e. you don't do 'loops' or backtracking, you start and you head to Santiago. So the point at which you plan to turn to head to Santiago, be it Fisterra or Muxia, isn't a valid start point because the distance is too short.
Fisterra doesn't have to be on the way to Santiago at all (as Lugo, Sarria, Ourense, Monforte de Lemos, Tui,... aren't if you are walking from beyond them), it may/can be just a starting point if you walk to Santiago through Muxia!!!Fisterra to Santiago is 88km, Muxia to Santiago is 82km, and Fisterra to Muxia is 29km (according to Gronze). The distances add up, but the issue is that Fisterra isn't on the way to Santiago from Muxia, nor vice versa. Wouldn't as many people start on the coast as in Sarria if it were allowed?
Some of the more obvious reasons might be:So if this is allowed, why don't more of the 100km pilgrims do it?
I'm not entirely sure why you see doing this route as a problem. It might not comply to your particular and unique interpretation of the Pilgrim Office guidance, but seems to be generally accepted as a legitimate way of meeting the 100 km requirement.Or could it be that people who want a Compostela actually read the Pilgrim Office rules and realise that loops and diversions aren't in the spirit of the pilgrimage?
Really. I don't pretend to know how any other pilgrim might see this, leave aside 'the vast majority of pilgrims', and I have no insight into whether the Pilgrim Office has this view either. I know that it seems a rather odd objection to me.I just occasionally read posts on here that share plans that verge on taking advantage of the public albergue system, that's all. Like 'I am going to have a lovely walk around and about, hither and thither, and then pop into Santiago'. The vast majority of pilgrims and the Pilgrim Office do not see it that way. They get that you start and you go to Santiago, no messing.
The Pilgrim Office guidance is clearly not inconsistent with walking from either Muxia or Finisterre to the other town and then to Santiago. It is your interpretation that it should be a direct route, not theirs. As for suggesting that the fact that few people might use this route is evidence that the majority agree with your proposition, well that is just nonsense, and you probably know that this is clutching at straws.For me the wording of the Pilgrim Office website and the actions of tens of thousands of people are quite adequate evidence.
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