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Definitely not - I take only a knife, plastic spork, and a plastic mug.Hi, Im caminokuzzi. I leave from the USA in two weeks. Question regarding a list i saw regarding packing list for Covid. Is it really necessary to bring a lunch kit- fry pan, plates, flatwear etc???
Where did you see this packing list?Question regarding a list i saw regarding packing list for Covid.
Good point. A small lightweight billycan e.g. from Decathlon might be handy for cooking in albergues that allow it. You can save a lot of money that way. You could boil water for tea/coffee and cook pasta etc in it. But handy, not a necessity.Voice of dissent. I wound up cooking a lot of my meals (I actually developed a cookbook of menus for my needs for my second camino). For that, I had a 450 mm titanium cup with lid, a 750 mm titanium cup/pot with lid, a spork (plastic - spoon on one end, fork on the other), a lightweight cutting "board" (thin film of plastic), a 4" ceramic knife (for cutting food) and a Swiss army knife.
My camino, my way. I used everything just about daily.
Rice cooker?
More seriously: SAK, titanium spork, Orikaso fold flat plate/cutting board have served me well.
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use the bowl as a cup - the mug is useless.
There's a similar thing in the US marketed under the name Fozzils but much more expensive.
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Thanks so much everyone for the input. The full circle of info gives me a lot to work with. Looking forward to the adventure and camaraderie. The cup and the spork and some beeswax covered cloth for a plate/cutting board/ or cover will have to do. And a small pocket knife. Personally Not looking forward to doing a lot of cooking. Buen Camino!Hi, Im caminokuzzi. I leave from the USA in two weeks. Question regarding a list i saw regarding packing list for Covid. Is it really necessary to bring a lunch kit- fry pan, plates, flatwear etc???
Thanks for helpful input!No. The Camino is not a camping trip, all the places you will eat will have flatware and such. Keep your pack as light as possible, bring nothing that you do not need! A fry pan, really? The only tool you will need is some type of compact swiss army type multi-tool for the scissors, tweezers, and a knife for cutting up cheese/meat/fruit that you want to snack on. I thought the corkscrew would come in handy.....never used it, everywhere you stop will cheerfully serve you wine, and pull the cork for you. Every coffee comes in a cup, every slice of tortilla comes on a plate, well, you get the idea.
Buen Camino
Thanks so much!Micro wavable cup with top,spoon, small knife. Under 2.75 inches. Buen camino
So helpful! ThanksNo. The Camino is not a camping trip, all the places you will eat will have flatware and such. Keep your pack as light as possible, bring nothing that you do not need! A fry pan, really? The only tool you will need is some type of compact swiss army type multi-tool for the scissors, tweezers, and a knife for cutting up cheese/meat/fruit that you want to snack on. I thought the corkscrew would come in handy.....never used it, everywhere you stop will cheerfully serve you wine, and pull the cork for you. Every coffee comes in a cup, every slice of tortilla comes on a plate, well, you get the idea.
Buen Camino
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Great news. ThanksAbsolutely not. The only time you might need stuff like that is at the end of the season when many albergues and restaurants are closed and you are staying in a pension and buying food in a supermarket to eat in your room. I did this last October. A corkscrew is €1 in a supermarket. You might want a plastic cup to drink wine. And a knife fork and spoon set is useful, otherwise you might have to buy sliced cheese and sliced ham and a baguette to make a roll. But look, it's Spain, a modern, rich, European country, not Outer Mongolia. Anything you want you can buy there. Decathlon stores are fairly frequent and they sell everything you'll ever need.
These look great. Can you use them in a microwave?
Thank You!Absolutely not. The only time you might need stuff like that is at the end of the season when many albergues and restaurants are closed and you are staying in a pension and buying food in a supermarket to eat in your room. I did this last October. A corkscrew is €1 in a supermarket. You might want a plastic cup to drink wine. And a knife fork and spoon set is useful, otherwise you might have to buy sliced cheese and sliced ham and a baguette to make a roll. But look, it's Spain, a modern, rich, European country, not Outer Mongolia. Anything you want you can buy there. Decathlon stores are fairly frequent and they sell everything you'll ever need.
Not something I've ever considered before, googling suggested you can so in the interests of science:These look great. Can you use them in a microwave?
This list is not based on current scientific knowledge about Covid in any way. It is not transmitted by hand contact, but by aerosol, and there is no evidence of it being transmitted in an outdoor environment. The only thing you need to carry with you against Covid is a mask. Every establishment has hand sanitizer if you want to use it. You will need to carry cash with you, as many establishments in Spain either do not or are very reluctant to accept payment by credit card.
Agreed. Knife and a spork.Definitely not - I take only a knife, plastic spork, and a plastic mug.
A Swiss army knife or one similar are not inexpensive and it wii not make it through custom's (unless you check your bag). Best buy a cheap parinig knife when you get Europe.No. The Camino is not a camping trip, all the places you will eat will have flatware and such. Keep your pack as light as possible, bring nothing that you do not need! A fry pan, really? The only tool you will need is some type of compact swiss army type multi-tool for the scissors, tweezers, and a knife for cutting up cheese/meat/fruit that you want to snack on. I thought the corkscrew would come in handy.....never used it, everywhere you stop will cheerfully serve you wine, and pull the cork for you. Every coffee comes in a cup, every slice of tortilla comes on a plate, well, you get the idea.
Buen Camino
You can actually buy them in the camping stores in SJpDP (with the Camino logo!)A Swiss army knife or one similar are not inexpensive and it wii not make it through custom's (unless you check your bag). Best buy a cheap parinig knife when you get Europe.
I wouldn't even pack any cutlery. Just pick up some plastic ones from a local McDonald's -- for free!No. The Camino is not a camping trip, all the places you will eat will have flatware and such. Keep your pack as light as possible, bring nothing that you do not need! A fry pan, really? The only tool you will need is some type of compact swiss army type multi-tool for the scissors, tweezers, and a knife for cutting up cheese/meat/fruit that you want to snack on. I thought the corkscrew would come in handy.....never used it, everywhere you stop will cheerfully serve you wine, and pull the cork for you. Every coffee comes in a cup, every slice of tortilla comes on a plate, well, you get the idea.
Buen Camino
How do so many of you get a Swiss Army Knife through security if all you have is carry on baggage? Twice, I have had one taken from meIf you're not camping, don't bother. I carried a spork and foldable cup all along the Frances and never used them. A small Swiss knife is all that you need for the odd wild wine bottle opening or on the go charcuterie cutting... The basic rule is : if you wander if you need it, then you don't. You can always cope with the unexpected and in the end, it just add fun to the whole thing... Don't plan too much, live the present moment instead
Buy one after you arrive or check a bag. Knives haven't been allowed on board planes for at least 20 years.How do so many of you get a Swiss Army Knife through security if all you have is carry on baggage? Twice, I have had one taken from me
I've only been home a few days from my Camino. You don't need anything. Some albergues are closed but not all. We didn't always stay at one, but the ones we did, provided what you would need there - Meaning if it had a stove top, there were pots, but a good majority of the just had a microwave.Hi, Im caminokuzzi. I leave from the USA in two weeks. Question regarding a list i saw regarding packing list for Covid. Is it really necessary to bring a lunch kit- fry pan, plates, flatwear etc???
No! On my first Camino in 2008 I took loads of stuff, including a tent! At the end of the first day and together with several fellow pilgrims we ‘dumped’ in a charity box: tent, cups, plates, cutlery etc.Hi, Im caminokuzzi. I leave from the USA in two weeks. Question regarding a list i saw regarding packing list for Covid. Is it really necessary to bring a lunch kit- fry pan, plates, flatwear etc???
The other thing is helping out local stores and restaurants with our business after a brutal year.Hi, Im caminokuzzi. I leave from the USA in two weeks. Question regarding a list i saw regarding packing list for Covid. Is it really necessary to bring a lunch kit- fry pan, plates, flatwear etc???
The airlines will remove your Swiss army knife from your backpack if it is carryon luggage. It will need to be in checked-in luggage.I'd endorse all of the above - you will almost certainly not be self-catering but eating in cafés, bars and restaurants, so cooking equipment will be dead weight. The only provisos would be a spork and a plastic mug and the indispensable Swiss army knife (in your backpack, otherwise airport security will take it off you. And a plastic box is handy for takeaway lunch.
Not the airline - Airport security.The airlines will remove your Swiss army knife from your backpack if it is carryon luggage. It will need to be in checked-in luggage.
I just buy a cheap knife in SpainHow do so many of you get a Swiss Army Knife through security if all you have is carry on baggage? Twice, I have had one taken from me
I used mine more on my last trip when I took my coeliac husband, and my grandson. At 13 he ate just about every hour, and he was a fan of chocolate yoghurt and puddings in between meals, and sometimes in between snacks! (the joy of being a grandparent - you don't have to enforce eating standards). He often ate my husbands meals as well if they turned out not to be gluten free - which was often the case.My spork has been on 3 Caminos with me and have yet to use it once. Will it go with me again? Probably, though not really sure why.
Yip, that's what I meant. I took a very small suitcase, which I checked in, carrying poles, knife, liquids, etc. Because I stayed at the same hostel in Barcelona at the beginning and end, I left the case (with my traveling clothes) in their luggage storage.Not the airline - Airport security.
Wow! I didn't know there was such a thing as an Orikaso bowl. Thanks!Rice cooker?
More seriously: SAK, titanium spork, Orikaso fold flat plate/cutting board have served me well.
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use the bowl as a cup - the mug is useless.
There's a similar thing in the US marketed under the name Fozzils but much more expensive.
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'If'. If you are coming in from outside Europe, e.g. from N. America, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, Korea, there is not a lot of point taking your backpack as carry-on luggage. On long haul flights, they don't charge for checked-in baggage and there is no discount for not having checked-in baggage: Ryanair doesn't go to Sydney, so you don't save any money. You don't really save a lot of time either and even if you did, an extra 20 minutes at the baggage carousel kind of fades in significance when you have spent the last 23 hours in the air or in transit. As we have to check-in anyway, we don't have issues with walking poles of Swiss army knives either. It's very different if you are travelling between European destinations though.I just buy a cheap knife in Spain
Swiss Army KnifeWow! I didn't know there was such a thing as an Orikaso bowl. Thanks!
PS What is SAK?
Hahahaha! I tried doing a search for SAK and found SAK Construction, SAK Management Services, Sak leather bags and even Sexual Assault Kit tracking system in Indiana, but no Swiss Army Knife! Thanks for the explanation.Swiss Army Knife
Hmmmmm. I wouldn't bet on thatAs far as I’m aware (just checked search engine) here in Europe you can still bring a pen-knife with a blade of up to 6cm / 2.36inches as carry-on luggage.
Yes, I agree. I’ve travelled so many times in which an item gets through one airport check but doesn’t get through another. The last time, it was a half used tube of toothpaste. One airlines agreed that it wasn’t a dangerous weapon (except to tartar build up, I suppose) but the other made me toss it. Must have been a pro-cavity country.Hmmmmm. I wouldn't bet on that
Most of the advice you are getting is based on pre-Covid conditions and the recommendation you are concerned about is specific to doing a pilgrimage during Covid and comes from the Consejo Jacobeo. I can see why you might be concerned. Nevertheless, I support the majority of recommendations that a mess kit is not needed.
Too bad they didn't give it to me...no hassle with my little knife and lightweight multi-use plastic plate I brought. I often enjoyed making sandwiches for a picnic lunch under a tree.The people I did encounter on the Camino who had purchased uncut chorizo and cheese ended up giving them away as they were too much of a hassle.
I rarely buy food in grocery stores to eat on the Camino, other than something like an orange or a chocolate bar. I eat 99% of my meals in restaurants and albergues. On my first Camino the only cutting tool that I brought was nail clippers, and never needed anything other than that.Before leaving on the Camino Frances in 2019, I agonized over checking a bag so that I could bring my favorite Swiss Army knife. I decided that the cost of checking a bag would be equal to buying a new knife on the trail. I did bring a spork. I never bought the knife and never used the spork. On the Frances, you are never really that far from a small store that has a slicer. They cut the meat and cheese for you and you can rip the bread. A knife and utensils are unnecessary. The people I did encounter on the Camino who had purchased uncut chorizo and cheese ended up giving them away as they were too much of a hassle. Even on the longest stretch I encountered without a town, there were entrepreneurs who set up a barbecue and were selling sandwiches and pastries.
In addition I carry a 15cm X 8cm (6" x 3") collapsible microwave safe bowl and have learned how to cook a number of meals using it. From Sarria onward there is very little provision of utensils in the Municipal albergues.Hi, Im caminokuzzi. I leave from the USA in two weeks. Question regarding a list i saw regarding packing list for Covid. Is it really necessary to bring a lunch kit- fry pan, plates, flatwear etc???
Last precovid Camino was 2018 , Primativo/ Verde/ Northern . We wish we had a titanium pot and frying pan with us . Came across two or three albergues with great kitchens but NO pots . To keep the cost down and take in the community of sharing along the Camino it was so nice to cook as a group and be together . Already looking to spring 2022 and the Sanabres with our new pots . Good walking.Hi, Im caminokuzzi. I leave from the USA in two weeks. Question regarding a list i saw regarding packing list for Covid. Is it really necessary to bring a lunch kit- fry pan, plates, flatwear etc???
As I am feeling now, I would also prefer to avoid restaurants and bars and cook my own meals, but I am a terrible cook. So would really appreciate suggestions of meals easy to make to go (to eat on the Camino) or to prepare in the albergue.I wound up cooking a lot of my meals (I actually developed a cookbook of menus for my needs for my second camino).
You can buy frozen meals and salad kits in most supermercados in Spain.As I am feeling now, I would also prefer to avoid restaurants and bars and cook my own meals, but I am a terrible cook. So would really appreciate suggestions of meals easy to make to go (to eat on the Camino) or to prepare in the albergue.
Carla, attaches is a PDF (it's about 12 MB) of my cookbook. Free to all digitally.As I am feeling now, I would also prefer to avoid restaurants and bars and cook my own meals, but I am a terrible cook. So would really appreciate suggestions of meals easy to make to go (to eat on the Camino) or to prepare in the albergue.
Definitely not in Australia. Even on domestic flights couldn't carry a pair of nail scissors.Hmmmmm. I wouldn't bet on that
That was really nice of you Geodoc, thank you. I would eat all those meals (without the oil), they sound just like the way we eat at home.Carla, attaches is a PDF (it's about 12 MB) of my cookbook. Free to all digitally.
Thank you, it is very generous of you, it looks great, I will absolutely give it a try. I'll practice at home and select the one I am able to doCarla, attaches is a PDF (it's about 12 MB) of my cookbook. Free to all digitally.
As I am doing the Camino Primitivo I am not so sure to find supermarkets in every village, and prefer something more "home made"You can buy frozen meals and salad kits in most supermercados in Spain.
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, but I am a terrible cook.
Maybe I didn’t read it carefully enough, but I didn’t see any recommendation in that list to bring your own frying pan.Question regarding a list i saw regarding packing list for Covid. Is it really necessary to bring a lunch kit- fry pan, plates, flatwear etc???
Interesting. Beats me how that lowers the risk of Covid transmission.I was almost always the only person using the dining area in albergues. Seems like everybody just gave up on trying to prepare anything to eat in the albergue and went to eat out in the bar or restaurants.
I have a couple of Swisstools, and indeed they are heavy: too much so for hiking, IMO. Happily, there are so many different models of SAKs that it’s easy to find something suitable for every task or trip.I've got some Swiss Army style knives but all of them are heavy/clunky with more tools blades than I need, so opt to carry a very small folding blade
Thanks for teaching me about immersion coils. I hadnt heard about them before. My luxury item in my pack (for April 22) is a lightweight thermos because i like to stop for teas and coffees along the road when im struck y the scenery or peace. My thermos goes with me everywhere (i do alot of remote travel on motorbike).Titanium cup, Immersion heater, small knife with cover, and small plastic flexible thin cutting board.
Like some others…I use a titanium cup to boil water using an Immersion coil. Especially in colder months when many restaurants are closed I use boiled water to make precooked rice one can buy in cups from the supermarkets and add finely chopped raw veggies, like carrots, onions and peppers. I buy instant powdered mashed potatoes and add boiled water from my cup as well and add some milk and butter to make it rich. I use the boiled water for tea or chicken bouillon powder, or oatmeal which I bring from home. Many lodgings do not have meals or breakfast so in off season times an immersion heater and light titanium cup are a must for me.
Opps! Dont worry! Just found one! Slightly different name thats all..Thanks for teaching me about immersion coils. I hadnt heard about them before. My luxury item in my pack (for April 22) is a lightweight thermos because i like to stop for teas and coffees along the road when im struck y the scenery or peace. My thermos goes with me everywhere (i do alot of remote travel on motorbike).
I was just researching to find out if most or many albergues had kettles or microwaves available so i could heat up water. seems not in covid times.
I cant find immeraion coils online in thailand (country im living in and will be coming from), so im wondering if immersion coils would be easy to find in France or Spain do you think? Not sure where best to look for them-camping stores?
Thanks for any tips.
Ps. Yes i will support the cafes along the way. Sometimes its just nice to appreciate nature in its raw state instead of from a commercial establisment. And hot tea along the road in the cold dark mornings makes the start to the day so much better...
so im wondering if immersion coils would be easy to find in France or Spain do you think? Not sure where best to look for them-camping stores?
Opps! Dont worry! Just found one! Slightly different name thats all..
On the del Norte and Primitivo last summer, when the Covid rate was higher than it is now, every albergue had a kettle or microwave. (I also carried a thermos with me, and about 80 tea bags. The thermos served as my main water bottle when I finished with the tea in the morning.) An immersion coil seems just like extra weight to me that you will ditch after a few days.Thanks for teaching me about immersion coils. I hadnt heard about them before. My luxury item in my pack (for April 22) is a lightweight thermos because i like to stop for teas and coffees along the road when im struck y the scenery or peace. My thermos goes with me everywhere (i do alot of remote travel on motorbike).
I was just researching to find out if most or many albergues had kettles or microwaves available so i could heat up water. seems not in covid times.
I cant find immeraion coils online in thailand (country im living in and will be coming from), so im wondering if immersion coils would be easy to find in France or Spain do you think? Not sure where best to look for them-camping stores?
Thanks for any tips.
Ps. Yes i will support the cafes along the way. Sometimes its just nice to appreciate nature in its raw state instead of from a commercial establisment. And hot tea along the road in the cold dark mornings makes the start to the day so much better...
If you’re on a camino with reliably furnished kitchens, I agree. But the usefulness of a coil increases as you go to untraveled caminos, especially those without albergue infrastructure. On routes like the Ebro, Levante, Catalán, etc, they may be your only opportunity for a hot beverage in the morning for many hours and many kilometers.An immersion coil seems just like extra weight to me that you will ditch after a few days.
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