Black and the Red
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- French way (June 2018) with Finisterra. Camino Dragonte being considered en route.
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I had heard some arrows went up. Was going to take a tin of paint with me. Maybe I'm just over preparing. At least no one will be running into that gingerbread house anymore!I have not done the Dragonet alternate route , but I have read that someone has taken the time last year to clearly mark this trail with more yellow arrows so is now much easier to follow, although the difficulty level is still the same.
That's my 2 cents worth (or maybe it's just my 1 cent worth).
Agreed. For the sake of clarity, thread renamed.just for clarity´s sake, perhaps someone can re-label this "Dragonte Option," or some such. It is a one-day secondary route on the Camino Frances. It´s not its own camino... unless of course you are lost up there!
I have been aware of this one day "alternate route" since my first Camino in 2015. The Brierley guide speaks of it, but the elevation map has always put me off...I'll leave it to the more "young and fearless"!Agreed. For the sake of clarity, thread renamed.
I, too, have been really interested in the Dragonte route. AND there is a facebook group with great information . All you will need and much better than the Brierley. Check it out.Hi. I am planning to brave the Camino Dragonte but I'm having a little trouble with my route research for the section between Moral de Valcarce and Villar de Corrales. Got the John Brierley guide, but his notes on this section seem a little vague for me. I have attached a screenshot from google maps. Now, do I follow the path I have roughly traced in red or is there some route following my blue line somewhere? If anyone who has done this route can remember, please can you do some smart phone magic and add the correct route. Also if possible, can the adandoned mill and church be marked? Many thanks in advance.View attachment 40012
Someone asked for GPS files of this route previously. See:I am planning to brave the Camino Dragonte but I'm having a little trouble with my route research for the section between Moral de Valcarce and Villar de Corrales. Got the John Brierley guide, but his notes on this section seem a little vague for me.
Wow, you and Kanga are quite the pioneers! I guess that's when you were both "young and fearless"!Been there, done that, bitten by a dog, rescued by Kanga. Way, way back before it was waymarked, in 2001. Have not been back since.
Who says we aren’t still?Wow, you and Kanga are quite the pioneers! I guess that's when you were both "young and fearless"!
True!Who says we aren’t still?
I'll have to see if I make any Camino friends willing to go to Dragonte with me. But for now it's just me, myself and I. Will be going in June so hopefully good weather for it.I have walked the three alternatives - Dragonte was the biggest challenge for me of any of my days on any of the Camino routes. I would never attempt it alone - three "pairs" walked it separately one fine day in 2015. Two pairs followed the trail without direction/route issues; one pairing (mine) had problems, so it turned out to be a very, very l-o-n-g day! The "Green" (Pradela) Route in good weather sits comfortably with the full overall Frances Route experience. If you are fit and in good condition and want an exciting challenge "over and above", walk the Dragonte BUT with company and in favourable weather conditions. That's my take!!
When are you intending walking the Dragonte?I'll have to see if I make any Camino friends willing to go to Dragonte with me. But for now it's just me, myself and I. Will be going in June so hopefully good weather for it.
Peter, If all goes to plan, I should be doing the Dragonte route on the 24th June 2018. Will be setting out early as poss from Cacabelos.When are you intending walking the Dragonte?
Correction, 25th June.Peter, If all goes to plan, I should be doing the Dragonte route on the 24th June 2018. Will be setting out early as poss from Cacabelos.
If all goes per plan, and body willing, I should be in that area mid-to-end of April.Correction, 25th June.
My aim is to get to Herrerias. If no room at an inn there then at least I'll have a few options for the cost of a few more kilometres. Will take 3 litres of water as I did climbing Pantokrator in Corfu at 38C!I walked the Dragonte option in July, 2012. Not well marked then.
Left from Villafranca del Bierzo and walked to La Faba. It was a long, hot, challenging day.
I would definitely walk it again.
Be sure to carry food and water for the day (was absolutely necessary in 2012).
What is your destination? Leaving from Cacabelos will be a very long day.
Hi Rich1, glad to hear it went well. Can you say what went wrong after Moral? It's after that village to the next that has flummoxed me with the Brierley directions. Any pointers? How long didn't it take you? Many thanks.Walked the Dragonte today and very nice it was too
Started from Villafranca and had the perfect blue sky day. Official waymarking was pretty good in the first and last thirds but virtually non-existent in the middle. Brierley is pretty accurate though with his route notes and a few yellow arrows were very helpful. Became temporarily misplaced after Moral de V through my own fault and legs were severely ‘brambled’...whoops
Lovely day. No pilgrim in sight and just a few friendly locals. Currently drinking beer in the sun in Herrerias
Hi Rich1, glad to hear it went well. Can you say what went wrong after Moral? It's after that village to the next that has flummoxed me with the Brierley directions. Any pointers? How long didn't it take you? Many thanks.
I'll wear long trousers me thinks. Keep drinking that painkiller.The damage...
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Hi everyone. I've just written an in-depth guide to the Dragonte, with general description, elevation profile chart, maps (with contour lines and 3D hill shading), walking notes, and so on. It's available in PDF and ePub formats. I've uploaded them as a resource to Ivar's 'Resources' section yesterday, though I think it is still waiting for approval.
https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/resources/in-depth-guide-to-the-ruta-dragonte.665/
If anyone has an immediate interest, the guide can be downloaded from my website:
http://trekopedia.com/new-guide-ruta-dragonte-on-the-camino-frances/
Most of the same content is available in my free TrailSmart app, too, of course.
Feedback very much appreciated!
(High-res version of the above map is included in the guide, plus more detailed sectional maps)
When leaving Villafranca you cross a bridge. The Caminos fork there. Take the right one heading uphill (also take lots of water as there is none on the way.) I remember not having any problems following the track. When you get to the paved road take it downhill.Hi. I hope to take the Pradela route from villafranca to trabadelo tomorrow. Ive lost my printed guide and notes, so am trying to figure it all out with help of my phone.
Do you have a similar detailed guide to the pradela? I am a little confused as to how to find it, leaving villafranca. And then how to stay on it to trabadelo!!!
Detailed advice appreciated from you and/or other forum members.
Here is the view you get very shortly after crossing the bridge. The main route through the valley goes to the left. The Pradela route goes uphill on the right.Hi. I hope to take the Pradela route from villafranca to trabadelo tomorrow. Ive lost my printed guide and notes, so am trying to figure it all out with help of my phone.
Do you have a similar detailed guide to the pradela? I am a little confused as to how to find it, leaving villafranca. And then how to stay on it to trabadelo!!!
Detailed advice appreciated from you and/or other forum members.
View attachment 42637
Hi everyone. I've just written an in-depth guide to the Dragonte, with general description, elevation profile chart, maps (with contour lines and 3D hill shading), walking notes, and so on. It's available in PDF and ePub formats. I've uploaded them as a resource to Ivar's 'Resources' section yesterday, though I think it is still waiting for approval.
https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/resources/in-depth-guide-to-the-ruta-dragonte.665/
If anyone has an immediate interest, the guide can be downloaded from my website:
http://trekopedia.com/new-guide-ruta-dragonte-on-the-camino-frances/
Most of the same content is available in my free TrailSmart app, too, of course.
Feedback very much appreciated!
(High-res version of the above map is included in the guide, plus more detailed sectional maps)
You stated "The only slight bit of uncertainty during our journey happened toward the end as we approached the quarry and were uncertain of which way to go." So which way did you go? I plan to walk the route later this year and would appreciate any help. Thanks.This is something I posted to the Friends of Dragonte Facebook page and wanted to share it here with Forum members:
"Wanting to beat the heat with a forecast high of 31 degrees, it was 6:50 in the morning of 18 June when we set off from Albergue Leo in Villafranca del Bierzo to walk the Dragonte route. We were a group of three: two Canadians (living in Barcelona) and an Australian. First stop was at the hikers' hut in Moral de Valcarce to sign into the log book. The hut was equipped with a few basic supplies, a table and chair and the log book, and it would have made a refuge for pilgrims had the weather not allowed us to carry on. We were well prepared physically for the trek, already having walked along the Camino Catalan from Barcelona, and the Aragones route before joining the Frances Camino in Obanos. The walk along the Dragonte route did not disappoint: the excellent way markings ensured that we could easily stay on the trail without misadventures while enjoying the spectacular scenery and peacefulness offered by this little-used original Camino route. Water was easily found in almost all of the villages we passed through. We did not need to search for food as our packs were filled with plenty of supplies for the day. Our foodstuffs included some purchases made the day before in Villafraca del Bierzo in the shop in Plaza Mayor. Coincidentally, the shop owner, Lenora, greeted us warmly when we told her of our plans to walk the Dragonte the following day, telling us that her parents and dog live in the first house we would come to upon entering the village of Moral de Valcarce. As requested by Lenora, we paused along the way to knock at the door of said house in order to send greetings but there was no one home to receive us.
The only slight bit of uncertainty during our journey happened toward the end as we approached the quarry and were uncertain of which way to go. It was eight hours after we started that we reached our endpoint in Las Herrerias with thoughts of cold beer first and foremost in our minds. We send our thanks to Maria and her mother Mercedes for their hospitality at the lovely Albergue Leo in Villafranca del Bierzo, the group responsible for the clear signage along the Drangonte, members of this Facebook group for sharing updates about the route, and those who bulldozed a wide swath down the last descent into Las Herrerias from the radio mast atop the final peak. Note: a few sections of the trail between San Fiz do Seo and Villasinde were somewhat overgrown, leaving one the unenviable choice between brushing up against brambles or stinging nettles. Also, be prepared for fresh cow patties in the last half of the final descent."
Thank you so much for sharing. Your information is very helpful in building my confidence.We continued to walk on the road headed to the top of the quarry. The village of San Fiz do Seo will be visible across the valley. Descend into the quarry keeping to the left because you will exit on the left when you reach the bottom. You will come to a gate (it was chained when we got there and we were able to simply step around it) and continue to the end of the driveway which brings you to a paved road. On your left will be a Camino signboard, overgrown with vegetation. Turn right on the paved road and within about 1 km the Camino will veer left off the paved road into the village of San Fiz de Seo.
I hope this helps you!
Good advice. I am an early starter too but will start later on this one. Thanks.Did it this year, there’s enough markings imo. I normally start my days on the Camino at 4a so I can see the stars and enjoy the sunrise, but decided on the Dragonte to begin at 8a due to all the warnings that the trail is poorly marked. Once in the canopy I will admit i had to slow my pace to make sure I was going the right way since the path was overgrown and there were a few side trails that were most likely made by locals. The entire hike was amazing, not one single soul. Just adjust your expectations on the frequency,color, and size of the arrows and you will be fine.
Well, Lindam, I did it on Oct. 28. It was wonderful. Thank you again for sharing your experience, which made it much easier for me!Go for it! A most memorable day on the Camino!
Thank you again Mugatu. Instead of my planned start at 5, I started at 7. By the time I reached the village of Dragonte it was light. Everything went fine after that.Good advice. I am an early starter too but will start later on this one. Thanks.
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