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Then I sit down at the nice quiet second bar and have a beer there too. Problem solvedThen as you walk out of the village you see other places that look really nice and quiet but by the time you get to the next place, that's all been forgotten and first open bar it is
Then I sit down at the nice quiet second bar and have a beer there too. Problem solved
after walking St jean to Burgos the last 2 weeks of August with my wife. We're going back out to do the last part Leon to Santiago the last 2 weeks of September and now seriously regretting we didn't push harder to get these 2 middle weeks off work as well...
'I stop when there is an occasion and sometimes when there is none', or maybe that should be drink. I drink when... Either way if I see a crowd of people outside a busy bar I tend to walk to the next bar, served quicker, stop longer and wish the same crowd of people Kinder Bueno in (slurred speech) I saw earlier when they walk by. If the first bar turns out to be last bar I carry a bottle of vino and two silicone wine glasses and create a bar wherever I stopAnyway, does everyone else suffer from first bar syndrome?
Congratulations on your first part to Burgos and good luck for your second part from Leon. I take it you plan to miss out on a Meseta pub crawl from Burgos to Leon!
Many years ago BBC Radio broadcast a documentary series about a Brit travelling in the western states of the USA. The most memorable part was a conversation in a small-town diner when our narrator asked the waitress what she recommended for vegetarians. There was a long pause before her reply: "Well honey - I recommend you get out of Wyoming."I’m quite happy to join the company of long-distance lorry drivers but less happy to sit beneath animal carcasses suspended from the ceiling.
maybe should be first "open" bar syndrome!
Hi all, I've been a long time lurker and finally signed up after walking St jean to Burgos the last 2 weeks of August with my wife. We're going back out to do the last part Leon to Santiago the last 2 weeks of September and now seriously regretting we didn't push harder to get these 2 middle weeks off work as well...
Anyway, does everyone else suffer from first bar syndrome? that is you walk for 7 to 12 km, go into a village and jump into the first open bar you see. We were usually desperate for a sit down with a coffee / coke / beer / food, and ended up a bit paranoid about whether there will be anywhere else. Especially as the opening times in Spain are hilariously random. Then as you walk out of the village you see other places that look really nice and quiet but by the time you get to the next place, that's all been forgotten and first open bar it is
Buen Camino
I took the same photo and was going to share it! Personally, I suspect that the sign was not impartial advice and was put up by the owner of the second bar. In this case, if I recall correctly, the second bar was empty and the first bar happened to be filled with friendly pilgrims, so we walked back to the first bar. Part of what makes a bar better or worse is who happens to be sitting there.View attachment 64389
The camino warned me for this
The second bar might be better, however it might also be closed.. So I also 'suffer' from this syndrome!
Back in the day when the only bar in town was the only bar in town and opened when local customers desired it to be open I would never pass up any opportunity for a Con Leche, a Solo & chupita or a beer if the sun was up.
Nowadays when the choice every 500m is between Wheatgrass smoothies, Cupachinos (?) or Yoghurt milkshakes I tend to keep on walking
I don't know but I would guess that it might be "Gares" - its Basque name today. Pretty sure that would have been the local language way back then too.(Actually I wonder what the place was called before the bridge was built)?
Sadly those afflictions often seem to be tied to an inability to use mirrors properly...My kind of bar in Toledo
Not quite understanding, I'm assuming your referring to others driving or inability to mirror, signal, manovreSadly those afflictions often seem to be tied to an inability to use mirrors properly...
No. Just that those who have those unpleasant characteristics which the bar sign lists often seem to be unable to recognise the fact - or would deny it when challenged - and so would fail to see that the sign applied to them and enter anyway.Not quite understanding, I'm assuming your referring to others driving or inability to mirror, signal, manovre
No. Just that those who have those unpleasant characteristics which the bar sign lists often seem to be unable to recognise the fact - or would deny it when challenged - and so would fail to see that the sign applied to them and enter anyway.
Still don't see how the mirrors apply but maybe it's a reflection of my stupiditytied to an inability to use mirrors properly...
My motto is ALWAYS, never pass an opportunity when you see one!
I’m fine with all that - but excluding assholes? Where exactly are you supposed to get a drink these days?
Maybe it's for the best, try this link...Says video not available to me?
Maybe it's for the best, try this link...
https://twitter.com/x/status/1164444905575522304
On my first walk this was definitely the case. Since then unless I know it is a good size town I almost always will stop at the first bar I see. I hate getting burned and having to walk back.Back in the day when the only bar in town was the only bar in town and opened when local customers desired it to be open I would never pass up any opportunity for a Con Leche, a Solo & chupita or a beer if the sun was up.
Nowadays when the choice every 500m is between Wheatgrass smoothies, Cupachinos (?) or Yoghurt milkshakes I tend to keep on walking
have made my breakfast here too..2014It's not just bars. On the Invierno this year, I found a place to sit on an uncomfortable rock and ate breakfast, only to find not 50 meters down the camino and around the corner there was this:View attachment 64387
Yes, very much so. On the Norte right now and we were just talking about that yesterdaymaybe should be first "open" bar syndrome!
Hi all, I've been a long time lurker and finally signed up after walking St jean to Burgos the last 2 weeks of August with my wife. We're going back out to do the last part Leon to Santiago the last 2 weeks of September and now seriously regretting we didn't push harder to get these 2 middle weeks off work as well...
Anyway, does everyone else suffer from first bar syndrome? that is you walk for 7 to 12 km, go into a village and jump into the first open bar you see. We were usually desperate for a sit down with a coffee / coke / beer / food, and ended up a bit paranoid about whether there will be anywhere else. Especially as the opening times in Spain are hilariously random. Then as you walk out of the village you see other places that look really nice and quiet but by the time you get to the next place, that's all been forgotten and first open bar it is
Buen Camino
Camino Rule No. 1 - never stop at the 1st bar.
Rule No. 1 can backfire if there is only 1 bar
Love this. Also reminds me of Phil Liggett & Bob Roll narrating La Vuelta a España.Maybe it's for the best, try this link...
https://twitter.com/x/status/1164444905575522304
And the distance to said next bar “may” not be accurate....View attachment 64389
The camino warned me for this
The second bar might be better, however it might also be closed.. So I also 'suffer' from this syndrome!
I took the same photo and was going to share it! Personally, I suspect that the sign was not impartial advice and was put up by the owner of the second bar. In this case, if I recall correctly, the second bar was empty and the first bar happened to be filled with friendly pilgrims, so we walked back to the first bar. Part of what makes a bar better or worse is who happens to be sitting there.
I always stop at the first bar I see in the morning for my cafe con leche and tortilla....I'm not taking any chances of "no second bar". IF there is a second bar is when I have a fresh squeezed orange juice.
It's mostly on the Frances you'll find true bar hopping where you can almost "jump" from one to the other...no walking involved!
Always stop at the second bar then.As I read this, I'm filled with anxiety of the First Bar Syndrome
Walking the CF in 2007, another pilgrim and I always agreed to meet in the first bar in the next village. More than 12 years later, we still say ‘first bar, next village’ when we have to part.maybe should be first "open" bar syndrome!
Hi all, I've been a long time lurker and finally signed up after walking St jean to Burgos the last 2 weeks of August with my wife. We're going back out to do the last part Leon to Santiago the last 2 weeks of September and now seriously regretting we didn't push harder to get these 2 middle weeks off work as well...
Anyway, does everyone else suffer from first bar syndrome? that is you walk for 7 to 12 km, go into a village and jump into the first open bar you see. We were usually desperate for a sit down with a coffee / coke / beer / food, and ended up a bit paranoid about whether there will be anywhere else. Especially as the opening times in Spain are hilariously random. Then as you walk out of the village you see other places that look really nice and quiet but by the time you get to the next place, that's all been forgotten and first open bar it is
Buen Camino
Agreed, gotta get the 1st coffee. Most places don't open until 0800 or later. After Sarria there are a lot of cafés open at 0600 tho. So keep watch when you got that 100km mark. KT and I are 2 days out from SantiagoI always stop at the first bar I see in the morning for my cafe con leche and tortilla....I'm not taking any chances of "no second bar". IF there is a second bar is when I have a fresh squeezed orange juice.
It's mostly on the Frances you'll find true bar hopping where you can almost "jump" from one to the other...no walking involved!
Well said Jen. The truth is that the “First Bar” actually exists. The 2nd bar onwards may or may not do. Hunger/Thirst will usually guide you but always bear in mind that when passing the “ First Bar” it may also be the only bar. Most of us survive regardless.First bar, second bar, bar down a side street, bar right in front of you — my Camino rule of thumb became “never pass a banos/servicios, no matter what.” Yes, I paid a lot of “potty taxes” on the trail (vino, agua, or beer), but I also never once had to find a secluded tree, either.Because of this rule, I hit a lot of first bars.
How boring.
I tend to think that its not where you end up having a beer its the people you end up sharing a beer with. You must be fun at partiesHow boring..
David, sorry to say, I think you missed out. My wife and I walked the CF earlier this year and saw the same sign. The second bar was empty when we walked in but it quickly filled up with friends after we stopped there. It was one of the most amazing bars of the Camino, in my humble opinion. I even wrote a blog post about the experience: https://newadventuresofjenandmike.home.blog/2019/05/20/truth-in-advertising-a-camino-story-vol-3/I took the same photo and was going to share it! Personally, I suspect that the sign was not impartial advice and was put up by the owner of the second bar. In this case, if I recall correctly, the second bar was empty and the first bar happened to be filled with friendly pilgrims, so we walked back to the first bar. Part of what makes a bar better or worse is who happens to be sitting there.
Our friend Ulli shared this one with us during our Camino earlier this year: "Want to hear the shortest joke on the Camino," he asked. "Sure," we said. Ulli smiles and says, "A Pilgrim walks by a bar."maybe should be first "open" bar syndrome!
Hi all, I've been a long time lurker and finally signed up after walking St jean to Burgos the last 2 weeks of August with my wife. We're going back out to do the last part Leon to Santiago the last 2 weeks of September and now seriously regretting we didn't push harder to get these 2 middle weeks off work as well...
Anyway, does everyone else suffer from first bar syndrome? that is you walk for 7 to 12 km, go into a village and jump into the first open bar you see. We were usually desperate for a sit down with a coffee / coke / beer / food, and ended up a bit paranoid about whether there will be anywhere else. Especially as the opening times in Spain are hilariously random. Then as you walk out of the village you see other places that look really nice and quiet but by the time you get to the next place, that's all been forgotten and first open bar it is
Buen Camino
between Moratinos and San Nicolas del Real Camino, an ad for Albergue Laganares, the Second Bar in San Nicolas. The quote really has nothing to do with Socrates, but it feels intellectual, and Laganares serves vegetarian food and kinda caters to the educated set, so wth.
Just been re-reading Walter Starkie's 1950s account of a journey to Santiago. He stops off for several days in Puente la Reina. According to his local friends the Basque name 'Gares' means 'wheat'. I think that it may simply be coincidence that the same combination of letters means "stations" in French - a 'false friend'.Gares translates as "station" or "place".
And me.The naming of things, and places, probably carries little significance to many beyond fans of Ursula le Guin's Earthsea books and topographers.
My similar experience was the unattended donativo table just before Leon with the bins of ice and cold drinks in July.It is nothing to be proud of but I know probably ALL bars/patisseries/good food shops on the Camino Frances... No comment.
My most memorable bar experience was cycling Napoleon route. I was exhausted, dead woman cycling. Suddenly I saw a van, probably seasonal, standing by the road serving drinks/snacks and giving the last French stamp. For an exhausted coffee lover like me, it was like reaching an oasis in a desert. I will never ever forget that moment.
I always wonder who the kind donor of this offering is.My similar experience was the unattended donativo table just before Leon with the bins of ice and cold drinks in July.
And me.
Place names and where they come from are endlessly fascinating, especially in places with many layers of history. The Making of the English Landscape was a delicious read in that respect. Someone could tell a similar story in Spain - and maybe already has, in Spanish.
And in some places, where rivers and mountains and land are not inanimate 'things,' names still carry spiritual weight
Oh, my. Yes indeed. Thank you!You might enjoy Henry Reed's Naming of Parts
Noting of course, that nature is more than occasionally brutal as well.Oh, my. Yes indeed. Thank you!
They're not completely different; all about human naming and convention - and the not occasional brutality of that - as opposed to the flow of nature, which simply is, and goes on.
Carpe diem. Walk on at your peril.you walk for 7 to 12 km, go into a village and jump into the first open bar you see.
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