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I seem to remember that the answer was to have both one's official and self animated credentials.
Now when I first walked the Camino almost 20 years ago there were 'professional' pilgrims who would walk on behalf of others with two credentials and then collect their fee on presentation of a certificate. Be it right or be it wrong , the practice still exists and the 'professional' will still simply hand over their own certificate.
From a more personal point of view , keep your own stamped diary or additional illustrated credential? Its a no brainer?
Though we were allowed to accept "overflow" sellos on additional sheets of paper if the official credential was full up and I was presented with a paper placemat from a restaurant that had been used in that way.The answer, by the way, was that only the "official" Credential is accepted at the Pilgrim's Office for the Compostela (and the last 100k). Anything before the last 100k you can use whatever you want to collect the sellos.
Not a new practice at all. It was common in medieval times, especially for those who had been ordered to do a pilgrimage as a penance.20 years ago there were 'professional' pilgrims who would walk on behalf of others
Well , I am thinking particularly of an old school Spanish chap in 2003 who was about 50, He would have a pilgrim's menu every night. He was a very easy going man who was quite happy walking 15/20 miles a day - so he did not take advantage of the situation. I never did ask him what his deal was but let us surmise? In those days lets say €1000 to cover all expenses and a further €1000 on presentation of a credential which in those days may well have been in the Beneficiary's name?How much might one of these dubious characters expect to be paid?
Just asking for a friend, obviously.
It is an interesting thread Dog , it has only been a few years since I have acquired the knowledge of what an 'Indulgence' was? Fascinating history!Just asking for a friend, obviously.
A very good point. There is certainly a similarity. I suspect the established church might not take too kindly a freelance indulgence salesperson getting into the market.It is an interesting thread Dog , it has only been a few years since I have acquired the knowledge of what an 'Indulgence' was? Fascinating history!
Since the recording of passport information is required at places of lodging, including albergues, a "professional" pilgrim might have a hard time explaining why the name on the passport was not the same as the name on the credential. However, that requirement does not apply for sellos obtained at bars and other non-lodging places.Well , I am thinking particularly of an old school Spanish chap in 2003 who was about 50, He would have a pilgrim's menu every night. He was a very easy going man who was quite happy walking 15/20 miles a day - so he did not take advantage of the situation. I never did ask him what his deal was but let us surmise? In those days lets say €1000 to cover all expenses and a further €1000 on presentation of a credential which in those days may well have been in the Beneficiary's name?
Very helpful @C clearlyI know that the Search is sometimes quite frustrating. In case you (or others) find this helpful, here is another tip about finding stuff on the forum - either specific or for general browsing. Of course different people have different ways of using the forum, and we all find the most convenient option for us.
Sometimes the "tags" can be useful. These are the little labels under the title of a thread, mostly placed there by moderators. Most of these tags are listed in the cloud at the bottom of the main Forum page here. They are also used to create the sub-forums that are listed in drop-downs on that same page. For example, here is a view of the dropdown that includes a sub-forum about credenciales.
Which (if you scroll far enough) refers us to https://oficinadelperegrino.com/en/pilgrimage/the-credencial/ which states that an "official" credential and religious intent is required for a Compostela. Not sure of the requirements for the "I did it" certificate. I was't willing to stand in line for either. The stamps in my diary were more than enough evidence to me that "I did it." Proving it to anyone else is irrelevant.
Probably wasn't me, but I did have a journal in which I put a stamp for every albergue or café/bar/restaurant I visited (and a few truism offices and shops). Along with notes about things I saw or experienced.Hola, sorry if this is a little off topic. Yes you do need an "official" credential. But I do recall seeing a pilgrim who had a detailed diary of his/her progress,. A new page for each alberque and the relevant stamp at the top of each page. A great way to keep track of ones pilgrimage.
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