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I have been looking for the Vibram ones but no luck. At 40$, if they last for one 350km Camino I will be a happy camper!I wore Hoka One One's when I did the VDLP from Sevilla. I Did Love them , but the one thing that got me was the treads were really quite worn towards the end. I would get them agian, but in the trail version. I found them super comfortable especially when going down hills.
yeah, at that price i would have totally bought them! it was just the last few days where i felt it was a bit slick, so they will probably work great for you.I have been looking for the Vibram ones but no luck. At 40$, if they last for one 350km Camino I will be a happy camper!
When you try on the Vibram pleae post and let us know what they are like.yeah, at that price i would have totally bought them! it was just the last few days where i felt it was a bit slick, so they will probably work great for you.
Hi AnemoneWhen you try on the Vibram pleae post and let us know what they are like.
I'm only walking 350km so I can just bin them at the end. If I was doing the whole CF or Norte then I would stick to my Salomons, unless I was able to fond the Hokas with Vibram.Hi my girlfriend and I looked into Hoka's because they are so comfortable. I found out that vibram makes a few different soles, the ones found on trail shoes mostly, are of a different compound so they wear better than a running shoe, but far less than an old style vibram sole. I like the technology in newer trail and running shoes. We ruled the Hoka's out because I didn't feel they would last 500mi. Comfort wise, weight, good on long (10miles or more) walks, and feel as good a month after I bought them as the day I bought them.
The shoes are so light you could take 2 pair?
I have done my last Caminos in Salomon Ultra 2 GTX with great success. But... I am always looking for the next best Camino thing and came across the Hoka shoes. They are as ugly as can be, not that the Salomons are much more attractive, but oh so very light and cushionny! They are also just as expensive as the Salomons. But one day I went into MEC and they had a lair of Bondi 3 in my Camino size for ... Drumroll... 39.99 $! At that price, even if I only wore them weeding the front hard it would be fine.
Today I had my appointment to have new orthotics made for my flat feet, who have also developped plantear fasciitis on the Camino 2 years ago. Brought the Bondis in to see what the Dr. would say. She sent me packing! Not charging me a penny for the consult and telling me these are the BEST shoe I could have chosen!
She has clients who do ultra marathons in these with great success apparently. So I have to wear these ugly bright plum things for a month and call her back. If needed sje will make me a pair of orthotics in a rush.
Got to love someone with ner reputation who doesn't sell ypu what yoi don't need.since I've gone to see her I have paid for 1 consult in 4 visits and have paid 60$ in orthotics she recommended but told me to order myself.
FYI, most Hoka One Ones are quote narrow in the front, my Bondis are nice and wide.
@Anniesantiago , I have taken the picture with my Ipad... Now how do I post it here, from the Ipad?Can you post a photo of those?
Sorry Anemone, I'm a bit confused; are the Hoka One Ones and the Bondis two different brands? Which was your final choice?I have done my last Caminos in Salomon Ultra 2 GTX with great success. But... I am always looking for the next best Camino thing and came across the Hoka shoes. They are as ugly as can be, not that the Salomons are much more attractive, but oh so very light and cushionny! They are also just as expensive as the Salomons. But one day I went into MEC and they had a lair of Bondi 3 in my Camino size for ... Drumroll... 39.99 $! At that price, even if I only wore them weeding the front hard it would be fine.
Today I had my appointment to have new orthotics made for my flat feet, who have also developped plantear fasciitis on the Camino 2 years ago. Brought the Bondis in to see what the Dr. would say. She sent me packing! Not charging me a penny for the consult and telling me these are the BEST shoe I could have chosen!
She has clients who do ultra marathons in these with great success apparently. So I have to wear these ugly bright plum things for a month and call her back. If needed sje will make me a pair of orthotics in a rush.
Got to love someone with ner reputation who doesn't sell ypu what yoi don't need.since I've gone to see her I have paid for 1 consult in 4 visits and have paid 60$ in orthotics she recommended but told me to order myself.
FYI, most Hoka One Ones are quote narrow in the front, my Bondis are nice and wide.
Those look like pretty good trail runners. Looks like they will give you good cushioning and grip.You might also want to look at Skechers Go Trail Ultra. I have read reviews where they compared favorably to the Hokas
https://www.skechers.com/en-us/style/54110/skechers-gotrail-ultra-3/ccor
Bondi 3 is the model, Hoka One One the brand.Sorry Anemone, I'm a bit confused; are the Hoka One Ones and the Bondis two different brands? Which was your final choice?
The Bondi 3 is wide enough for me but some of the others are super narrow. Width had never been a consideration until I tried other HOO models.After reading this thread a few days ago I emailed Hoka and asked about width... I'm always looking for THE best shoe... but sadly they'd be too narrow for my pasty feet
Thanks Anemone; making notes for 2017.Bondi 3 is the model, Hoka One One the brand.
Katrina and the Waves approve:I think it worked, thank you @domigee . Here are the very light, very cushiony Hoka One One Bondi 3 for ladies, in case the colour didn't cue anyone about this last bit. Today being worn with light Injinjis.
I have been wearing various Hokas for over a year now. Love them, purchased a pair of Stinson 3 ATR yesterday. My friend who is walking with me is wearing Hoka Tor Summit that have a vibram sole & are waterproof. They are a hiking shoe rather than a running shoe. This model also seems to be wider than most of the running models, have not heard anything bad about them yet.I have done my last Caminos in Salomon Ultra 2 GTX with great success. But... I am always looking for the next best Camino thing and came across the Hoka shoes. They are as ugly as can be, not that the Salomons are much more attractive, but oh so very light and cushionny! They are also just as expensive as the Salomons. But one day I went into MEC and they had a lair of Bondi 3 in my Camino size for ... Drumroll... 39.99 $! At that price, even if I only wore them weeding the front hard it would be fine.
Today I had my appointment to have new orthotics made for my flat feet, who have also developped plantear fasciitis on the Camino 2 years ago. Brought the Bondis in to see what the Dr. would say. She sent me packing! Not charging me a penny for the consult and telling me these are the BEST shoe I could have chosen!
She has clients who do ultra marathons in these with great success apparently. So I have to wear these ugly bright plum things for a month and call her back. If needed sje will make me a pair of orthotics in a rush.
Got to love someone with ner reputation who doesn't sell ypu what yoi don't need.since I've gone to see her I have paid for 1 consult in 4 visits and have paid 60$ in orthotics she recommended but told me to order myself.
FYI, most Hoka One Ones are quote narrow in the front, my Bondis are nice and wide.
They have a hiking shoe that is wider than the running shoes, its called Tor Summit, they also have a vibram sole & are waterproof.After reading this thread a few days ago I emailed Hoka and asked about width... I'm always looking for THE best shoe... but sadly they'd be too narrow for my pasty feet
They have a hiking shoe that is wider than the running shoes, its called Tor Summit, they also have a vibram sole & are waterproof.
They have a hiking shoe that is wider than the running shoes, its called Tor Summit, they also have a vibram sole & are waterproof.
I wore Hokas on the Portuguese and English Caminos I had a little trouble with sand collecting between the layers of fabric . The Hokas felt great especially on hard surfaces . My wife recently got a pair of Altras they have a very wide toe-box and like the Hokas they have a lot of padding for softness , Pounding on the roads..... Ultreya... Willy/Utah/USAI have done my last Caminos in Salomon Ultra 2 GTX with great success. But... I am always looking for the next best Camino thing and came across the Hoka shoes. They are as ugly as can be, not that the Salomons are much more attractive, but oh so very light and cushionny! They are also just as expensive as the Salomons. But one day I went into MEC and they had a lair of Bondi 3 in my Camino size for ... Drumroll... 39.99 $! At that price, even if I only wore them weeding the front hard it would be fine.
Today I had my appointment to have new orthotics made for my flat feet, who have also developped plantear fasciitis on the Camino 2 years ago. Brought the Bondis in to see what the Dr. would say. She sent me packing! Not charging me a penny for the consult and telling me these are the BEST shoe I could have chosen!
She has clients who do ultra marathons in these with great success apparently. So I have to wear these ugly bright plum things for a month and call her back. If needed sje will make me a pair of orthotics in a rush.
Got to love someone with ner reputation who doesn't sell ypu what yoi don't need.since I've gone to see her I have paid for 1 consult in 4 visits and have paid 60$ in orthotics she recommended but told me to order myself.
FYI, most Hoka One Ones are quote narrow in the front, my Bondis are nice and wide.
Oooooooh! Those look REALLY comfortable.I think it worked, thank you @domigee . Here are the very light, very cushiony Hoka One One Bondi 3 for ladies, in case the colour didn't cue anyone about this last bit. Today being worn with light Injinjis.
I lucked out. I happened to walk into MEC (Mountain Equipment Coop) here in Canada and they had this pair at a 75% discount. Just know that many of their models are quite narrow in the toe box, the Bondi is wider and fits me well. I also wear Salomons Ultra 2s as a point of reference for width.Oooooooh! Those look REALLY comfortable.
Where do you buy them?
I'll have to look around.
Thank you for this review. I have been hoping to find a lair of Tors to try one but cannot find them. Now that I time they are also narrow I am not as disappointed. Now, I don't think you should ditch the whole brand based on a fit that ks not adequate for your feet. The cushioning and shape are exceptional in my opinion. Now, will my Bondis last for 800km or so like my Salomon... I doubt it, after all they weigh almost half of what the Salomons weigh.Hi all I was seduced by the advertising and reviews for Hokas. Unfortunately having punched a pair of hoka one one tor summit mid boots I am definitely disappointed. The toe box is too small.they are not as waterproof as other types .I am going to stay with my mammuts that are more comfortable very waterproof and also £40 cheaper. All in all I am very disappointed with the Hokas all advertising and no substance in my opinion
I really like the sound of the Speedgoats but my store would have had to order them in & when I told them I wanted them for the Camino they didn't recommend them for that distance. I'd love to hear how you find them.I am always on the lookout for the Perfect Shoe for me and my PF and also settled on Salomon X Ultras, non goretex. However the promise of an extra cushioned sole for my poor feet has had me following the Hoka threads on the forum ... and then today I crumbled and started looking at models and prices online. I found one pair of half price Speedgoats, with Vibram soles, in my size in a particularly nauseating mix of coral pink and screaming yellow. I am very excited about getting them delivered and will let you know first impressions as soon as they arrive!
I forgot to mention that my wife wears men's Hokas that have I wider toe box. They will last the training and Camino distance. Do all you can for your feet.Dont take two pair, don't take anything extra you feet will thank you... Ultreya... Willy/Utah/USAHi my girlfriend and I looked into Hoka's because they are so comfortable. I found out that vibram makes a few different soles, the ones found on trail shoes mostly, are of a different compound so they wear better than a running shoe, but far less than an old style vibram sole. I like the technology in newer trail and running shoes. We ruled the Hoka's out because I didn't feel they would last 500mi. Comfort wise, weight, good on long (10miles or more) walks, and feel as good a month after I bought them as the day I bought them.
The shoes are so light you could take 2 pair?
I am always hesitant when a breathable membrane is in a boot. I had to abandon my vdlp last year, also at 40c, my goretex shoes was heating up like crazy. I am glad to hear that eVent breathes better. I am definitely going to try the Summit.It was about 40°C most days and the eVent lining breathed exceptionally well. Absolutely NO moisture in the boot at the end of the day. I wore compression socks underneath Marino trekking socks. The Vibram soles showed little to no wear at all.
All I need now is some rain to try out their waterproof claims.
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Here is a website that help you choose the right Hoka model shoes....Sorry Anemone, I'm a bit confused; are the Hoka One Ones and the Bondis two different brands? Which was your final choice?
Several people reported in this forum having walked the entire Camino on standard Hoka running shoes. If anything, I think, the new Hoka hiker (with vibram megagrip) should offer even better grip on wet/dry terrain and extend its durability. My concern would be weather it would be too warm for the summer with the eVent layer.We ruled the Hoka's out because I didn't feel they would last 500mi.
I face the same issue. Other than New balance, i find Merrell wide shows also fit my wide foot. Have you tried their Moab ventilators....with or without goretex...they are very popular among Camino and through hikers in the us....Hi and many thanks for the information.. Sadly my foot is a 3E or 4E and I really need a measured wide fit... Hoka say they use a Standard width last. The only shoes I've found this wide so far are New Balance and Keen but rather annoyingly these are only on their USA sites... At least I'm loving my new Teva sandals
Thanks for the post. I just bought my 2nd pair of Hoka, Clifton 2 running shoe for the trip. Now concerned about long term wear since my first pair wore out so quickly. The Clifton 2 has a wider toe box than Clifton 1. Now excited to check out other HOKA models as mentioned in other postsI have done my last Caminos in Salomon Ultra 2 GTX with great success. But... I am always looking for the next best Camino thing and came across the Hoka shoes. They are as ugly as can be, not that the Salomons are much more attractive, but oh so very light and cushionny! They are also just as expensive as the Salomons. But one day I went into MEC and they had a lair of Bondi 3 in my Camino size for ... Drumroll... 39.99 $! At that price, even if I only wore them weeding the front hard it would be fine.
Today I had my appointment to have new orthotics made for my flat feet, who have also developped plantear fasciitis on the Camino 2 years ago. Brought the Bondis in to see what the Dr. would say. She sent me packing! Not charging me a penny for the consult and telling me these are the BEST shoe I could have chosen!
She has clients who do ultra marathons in these with great success apparently. So I have to wear these ugly bright plum things for a month and call her back. If needed sje will make me a pair of orthotics in a rush.
Got to love someone with ner reputation who doesn't sell ypu what yoi don't need.since I've gone to see her I have paid for 1 consult in 4 visits and have paid 60$ in orthotics she recommended but told me to order myself.
FYI, most Hoka One Ones are quote narrow in the front, my Bondis are nice and wide.
I also need wider shoes (2E/3E). Hoka reps told me that their Summit line has a wider toe box than regular running shoes as it is designed for hiking. I sized up and should receive the shoes next week and will provide feedback. The only other Hoka shoe that is trail ready would be the Mafate, apparently has the widest toe box, highest cushioning with an outsole for trails. Have you tried the Mofate4?I have been watching the Hoka due to their maximum cushioning
the Bondi 4 comes in a specific wide width FOR MEN ONLY- the sizes available run too large for me to use a man's
Rumor has it that they will be releasing a Bondi 4 Women's wide but this is from stores that carry Hoka and they have had their delivery date pushed back repeated.
Contacted directly the company merely says new shoes are coming out this summer but won't say which ones
here's hoping
Nanc
Going to a running trail shoe place today to compare mafate and altra olympus. If nothing is perfect will wait to see if W bondi 4 wide comes outI also need wider shoes (2E/3E). Hoka reps told me that their Summit line has a wider toe box than regular running shoes as it is designed for hiking. I sized up and should receive the shoes next week and will provide feedback. The only other Hoka shoe that is trail ready would be the Mafate, apparently has the widest toe box, highest cushioning with an outsole for trails. Have you tried the Mofate4?
So I am afraid Angel-hart is right. This shoe is going back. I will wait for its next iteration.We ruled the Hoka's out because I didn't feel they would last 500mi.
So disapointed by your review. I don't understand Why they would use Vibram but à lesser quality version of it. I like the flimsy top material though, as that is how they cut on weight, no? This will be the First Time I walk without Gortex, might as well test this mesh on my Bondi 3 pair. Thank you for the review. Please make sure you give the company feed back so them don't think we are not In The market for a cushionny light trekking shoe with great outsole.Finally received the Hoka Summit yesterday. Fit-wise, the toe box is wider. It has more volume in the forefoot than other Hoka shoes. Light, not really a mid cut, just high enough to go over the ankle. But, the upper is very flimsy, and the Vibram outsole is not of uniform quality. They use a very soft rubber in the midsection. I was able to easily flex it with my fingers. For the Camino trail this might be good enough. I don't think the outsole will last very long on a technical rocky mountain trails.
So I am afraid Angel-hart is right. This shoe is going back. I will wait for its next iteration.
Yes specially at their price point of $180+. There are so many other higher quality options. Hoka have only wrapped the high wearing areas with Vibram. They tend to do this in most of their shoes.So disapointed by your review. I don't understand Why they would use Vibram but à lesser quality version of it. I like the flimsy top material though, as that is how they cut on weight, no? This will be the First Time I walk without Gortex, might as well test this mesh on my Bondi 3 pair. Thank you for the review. Please make sure you give the company feed back so them don't think we are not In The market for a cushionny light trekking shoe with great outsole.
Wow you are an expert in finding bargains... How is the tow box, is it wider?Just got back from MEC with another pair of Hoka One Ones for 49$! This time I think they're the Mafate Speed model.
At that price, I don't care if they only last for a shortish Camino.
It fits me well, Just like The Bondi 3, and wider than other of their models I have tired. After getting The first lair on sale I have kept popping In to see if they have them In sale. Today I was lucky!Wow you are an expert in finding bargains... How is the tow box, is it wider?
Has your wife had a chance to wear the Altra shoes much? I have purchased both the Hoka Bandi and the Altra Neoshell. While the Altra seems more cushiony, I'm afraid it's almost too much cushion and not enough support. I love the wide toe box, though, and they seem to have better traction than the Hoka. Both are comfortable on my feet, just can't decide which pair would be best on the road. Also, the HOO Bandi is not waterproof. Not sure how important that is. Decisions, Decisions.I wore Hokas on the Portuguese and English Caminos I had a little trouble with sand collecting between the layers of fabric . The Hokas felt great especially on hard surfaces . My wife recently got a pair of Altras they have a very wide toe-box and like the Hokas they have a lot of padding for softness , Pounding on the roads..... Ultreya... Willy/Utah/USA
I know there are plenty of stores along the Camino Frances, but are there any sporting goods stores, to purchase new shoes, if the ones I'm wearing are just not working for me?
It took some of us years to find the right footware. It all depends on what attribute is more important than the other. If you are walking in dry climate then waterproofing is not important. If it is important, either leather or gtx/eVent lined shoes.Has your wife had a chance to wear the Altra shoes much? I have purchased both the Hoka Bandi and the Altra Neoshell. While the Altra seems more cushiony, I'm afraid it's almost too much cushion and not enough support. I love the wide toe box, though, and they seem to have better traction than the Hoka. Both are comfortable on my feet, just can't decide which pair would be best on the road. Also, the HOO Bandi is not waterproof. Not sure how important that is. Decisions, Decisions.
Thank you, so much!It took some of us years to find the right footware. It all depends on what attribute is more important than the other. If you are walking in dry climate then waterproofing is not important. If it is important, either leather or gtx/eVent lined shoes.
I have tried the Hoka summit, Mafate 4 and Altra Olympus 2.0. The Mafate was the most comfortable fit. Altra had vibram soles, thus provide more durable traction. Didn't like the Altra's strange shape. Whichever you choose, I would replace the insole with something like superfeet. I would not worry about them being too cushiony, although one has to learn and adapt to walking with high shoes. Don't expect any ankle support as they are designed primarily for running.
Thank you. Appreciate your help!Yes there are sporting goods stores. However these are usually located in the major towns/cities. Nor do all shops carry all brands.
This eairr Forum thread discusses some but not all possibilities for sporting goods shops.
https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/sporting-goods-stores.38997/
So happy to hear you love your Hoka's! I am walking my first Camino (CF) in Sept/Oct this year and also love my Hoka One One trail shoe. I wear my usual jogging shoe size (which is already 1/2 to a full size bigger than my day/work shoes). My current Hoka's will be worn out before September so I am buying another pair. My big question is about whether I need to buy a 1/2 size bigger for the Camino. I actually tried on a 1/2 size bigger but they slip quite badly (wearing injinji toe socks and thick merino hiking socks). They are an expensive investment, so I'd like to get the size right. I have walked up to 20km - some very hilly, some flat - and my "usual" size Hoka's have been good. ANY help about this bigger shoe size when walking these long distances day after day is much appreciated.I wore Hoka One One's when I did the VDLP from Sevilla. I Did Love them , but the one thing that got me was the treads were really quite worn towards the end. I would get them agian, but in the trail version. I found them super comfortable especially when going down hills.
That's so good to know - thanks!! Per @Rajy62's comments, I realised my HOKA's are Euro 42 whereas my Asic running shoes are Euro 41.5 (despite both being US 9.5). That helps explains why they feel good. I'll make the final decision a bit closer after I add more and more kilometres to my walks but at this stage I'm happy not to buy a bigger size. Much appreciated!@MargLav . I wear the same size on the Camino as I do for casual walking around home. They are already a generous fit but not so much that there is problem slippage. Many people recommend going "larger" but they have no idea how roomy your regular fit is! There IS such a thing as too-big shoes, so you should not arbitrarily go larger.
Great advice! You are right - my HOKA's are EURO42 whereas my Asics are EURO 41.5. Thanks!I find these shoes are more accurate to their European sizing:
------ Mens
Lowa 10.5 44
Hoka 10.5 44 2/3
Hoka 10 44
I had to size down with Hoka to fit my eu44 foot. When i try my regular US size 10.5, Hoka is almost 1 eu size larger. Thats is why it feels generous.
I think it is better to get a matching EU size shoes for your feet, especially if they are made on European lasts.
My dear wife wears sandals all summer and although she loves her Hokas and Altras she gets blisters from the change to shoes and will be wearing he Chacos this fall on the Camino Sanabre. I have always been conscious of the fact that "It rains in Spain" and I personally don't have any advice other than trying to find a shoe that can dry...... Ultreya......Willy/Utah/USAHas your wife had a chance to wear the Altra shoes much? I have purchased both the Hoka Bandi and the Altra Neoshell. While the Altra seems more cushiony, I'm afraid it's almost too much cushion and not enough support. I love the wide toe box, though, and they seem to have better traction than the Hoka. Both are comfortable on my feet, just can't decide which pair would be best on the road. Also, the HOO Bandi is not waterproof. Not sure how important that is. Decisions, Decisions.
That is almost half the MSRP. I suspect the price could come down even further. When products reache STP, you know its going to be a discontinued soon, if not already. Campsaver and Backcountry also have them for sale at $108 with free shipping.I note Sierra Trading Post have Women's Hoka One One Tor Summit Mid Hiking Boots on special at US$99.95, altho I wouldn't know whether that is a good price.
These have vibram soles.
http://www.sierratradingpost.com/hoka-one-one-tor-summit-mid-hiking-boots-waterproof-for-women~p~127xp/?filterString=s~hoka-vibrams/
Regards
Gerard
Hmmm... interesting new design with ankle wraparound.. and I'm so happy with the Tor Summits. Time to get some discontinued stock.Looks like Hoka launched the 2nd generation Tor hiking shoes; the Tor adventure and Tor ultra. The upper seems to have been completely redesigned.
Still no wide widths though...looks promising
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