Daniel Crowe
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Why not take a look at the Live from the Camino threads?Evening all.
As is usually the way, I think, after you've done a Camino - you don't get too far in life before planning your next one.
In 2018 I did the entire Frances from SJPP out to Finisterre. To this day it's still the greatest experience of my life, even after doing 250km on the Del Norte last October. I didn't finish the Del Norte because I wasn't in the right headspace leaving, to be honest. I mentally struggled through to even doing 250km - but I also said to myself that I needed that type of Camino to help me realise just how special my 2018 trip was. I hoped against hope that the Del Norte would return some of the same magic but it didn't, even though I knew it wouldn't. So I think having that dip was needed so that I could go back up again.
But I am looking at the Frances once more, yet this time I'm wondering just how busy it actually is? I know the last time it really started to kick on in Sarria, as it always does. But is it more consistent throughout now? And with that, have prices started to sky rocket?
I'm just looking for some information now which I can use to start planning my trip again for next, where presumably there will be an even larger increase in people walking and maybe prices too.
Buen Camino!
Felt the same when I did the Portuguese and part of the Norte after doing the Frances. Missed the Camraderie which I regained by doing SJPP to Burgos on CF in 2019. Arrived in Bilbao today and bussing tomorrow to Burgos to rejoin the CF for a week or 2. I’ll let you know how I find it and I’ve never prebooked a bed on any of my trips. I’m a mature Walker of 62!!Evening all.
As is usually the way, I think, after you've done a Camino - you don't get too far in life before planning your next one.
In 2018 I did the entire Frances from SJPP out to Finisterre. To this day it's still the greatest experience of my life, even after doing 250km on the Del Norte last October. I didn't finish the Del Norte because I wasn't in the right headspace leaving, to be honest. I mentally struggled through to even doing 250km - but I also said to myself that I needed that type of Camino to help me realise just how special my 2018 trip was. I hoped against hope that the Del Norte would return some of the same magic but it didn't, even though I knew it wouldn't. So I think having that dip was needed so that I could go back up again.
But I am looking at the Frances once more, yet this time I'm wondering just how busy it actually is? I know the last time it really started to kick on in Sarria, as it always does. But is it more consistent throughout now? And with that, have prices started to sky rocket?
I'm just looking for some information now which I can use to start planning my trip again for next year, where presumably there will be an even larger increase in people walking and maybe prices toooo.
Buen Camino!
Thousands flock there for the peace and solitude / No one goes there anymore because it gets so crowdedWhy not take a look at the Live from the Camino threads?
My opinion is that the Camino Frances is now so crowded that it is almost impossible to see your feet as you shuffle along the designated path and that the costs are so prohibitive that none but the likes of the Hollywood elite can possibly undertake it.
In other words: Thousands flock there for the peace and solitude / No one goes there anymore because it gets so crowded
Thanks Wilhaus. I'm definitely hoping for more - I want the camraderie of it. As long as there's still room to venture off on your own and find an empty plot of land to admireAre you hoping for crowds to be with others? If so walk in April and around Easter. September is also a busy time. May and June are pretty busy. July and August are quite warm. School is out and you may meet larger numbers of students and school groups. Also August is a vacation month for many in Spain and the rest of Europe.
Walking in cooler months you will find fewer pilgrims. Many albergues close in mid or late Oct, but there are still good lodging options and on the CF, there will still be pilgrims. There is a winter Camino site active in the winter to help you find lodging.
Enjoy your planning! For many that is one of the best parts!
I recently walked from Saint Jean Pied de Port to Burgos segment of CF. You can definitely have a mix of both. I followed the Valcarlos Route out of St, Jean and I loved the solitude it provided. For miles, the only thing I heard was the sound of birds and flowing water. It was utter bliss. Even between Logrono and Burgos there were plenty of spots where there were nothing but only clouds overhead, an open path and green fields around.Thanks Wilhaus. I'm definitely hoping for more - I want the camraderie of it. As long as there's still room to venture off on your own and find an empty plot of land to admireI'll definitely enjoy the planning. Thanks again
Thanks Wilhaus. I'm definitely hoping for more - I want the camraderie of it. As long as there's still room to venture off on your own and find an empty plot of land to admireI'll definitely enjoy the planning. Thanks again
Hi, four of us left St. Jean yesterday and are now in Zubiri. Roncevalles was far from crowded and the hostel where we’re staying today is less than half full. We left St. Jean at 6:20 am and saw one pilgrim ahead of us, none behind. We met maybe 30 altogether en route to Roncevalles. At the moment the Camino is quieter than I’ve ever seen it. I’ve no idea whether this will continue as we make our way to Santiago but it’s peaceful, the weather is fantastic and there are enough pilgrims to create a lovely’ family’ atmosphere.Evening all.
As is usually the way, I think, after you've done a Camino - you don't get too far in life before planning your next one.
In 2018 I did the entire Frances from SJPP out to Finisterre. To this day it's still the greatest experience of my life, even after doing 250km on the Del Norte last October. I didn't finish the Del Norte because I wasn't in the right headspace leaving, to be honest. I mentally struggled through to even doing 250km - but I also said to myself that I needed that type of Camino to help me realise just how special my 2018 trip was. I hoped against hope that the Del Norte would return some of the same magic but it didn't, even though I knew it wouldn't. So I think having that dip was needed so that I could go back up again.
But I am looking at the Frances once more, yet this time I'm wondering just how busy it actually is? I know the last time it really started to kick on in Sarria, as it always does. But is it more consistent throughout now? And with that, have prices started to sky rocket?
I'm just looking for some information now which I can use to start planning my trip again for next year, where presumably there will be an even larger increase in people walking and maybe prices too.
Buen Camino
Your post drew my attention for a few reasons. I think a very large part of any new experience that has a deep and profound impact is because it is NEW and so different than anything we have done in our lifetime beforehand. I am not sure that feeling can ever be recaptured. Maybe in some small measures but the overall impact can only happen once. (My opinion of course). After many caminos I have completely accepted that and have an open heart to see what comes in with my first step.In 2018 I did the entire Frances from SJPP out to Finisterre. To this day it's still the greatest experience of my life, even after doing 250km on the Del Norte last October.
Hi there,Felt the same when I did the Portuguese and part of the Norte after doing the Frances. Missed the Camraderie which I regained by doing SJPP to Burgos on CF in 2019. Arrived in Bilbao today and bussing tomorrow to Burgos to rejoin the CF for a week or 2. I’ll let you know how I find it and I’ve never prebooked a bed on any of my trips. I’m a mature Walker of 62!!
I’m in the Frances now in Santo Domingo de La Calzada and it’s not that busy. Most people we’ve talked to have pre-booked but the ones that haven’t are finding beds.Evening all.
As is usually the way, I think, after you've done a Camino - you don't get too far in life before planning your next one.
In 2018 I did the entire Frances from SJPP out to Finisterre. To this day it's still the greatest experience of my life, even after doing 250km on the Del Norte last October. I didn't finish the Del Norte because I wasn't in the right headspace leaving, to be honest. I mentally struggled through to even doing 250km - but I also said to myself that I needed that type of Camino to help me realise just how special my 2018 trip was. I hoped against hope that the Del Norte would return some of the same magic but it didn't, even though I knew it wouldn't. So I think having that dip was needed so that I could go back up again.
But I am looking at the Frances once more, yet this time I'm wondering just how busy it actually is? I know the last time it really started to kick on in Sarria, as it always does. But is it more consistent throughout now? And with that, have prices started to sky rocket?
I'm just looking for some information now which I can use to start planning my trip again for next year, where presumably there will be an even larger increase in people walking and maybe prices too.
Buen Camino!
Consider Le Chemin de Ste Jacques, from Le Puy to SJPP. Much less crowded. And thru France. Food, ***sigh*** Greetings from AustaliaWhy not take a look at the Live from the Camino threads?
My opinion is that the Camino Frances is now so crowded that it is almost impossible to see your feet as you shuffle along the designated path and that the costs are so prohibitive that none but the likes of the Hollywood elite can possibly undertake it.
In other words: Thousands flock there for the peace and solitude / No one goes there anymore because it gets so crowded
When my wife and iwalked the Frances in 2017. We'dEvening all.
As is usually the way, I think, after you've done a Camino - you don't get too far in life before planning your next one.
In 2018 I did the entire Frances from SJPP out to Finisterre. To this day it's still the greatest experience of my life, even after doing 250km on the Del Norte last October. I didn't finish the Del Norte because I wasn't in the right headspace leaving, to be honest. I mentally struggled through to even doing 250km - but I also said to myself that I needed that type of Camino to help me realise just how special my 2018 trip was. I hoped against hope that the Del Norte would return some of the same magic but it didn't, even though I knew it wouldn't. So I think having that dip was needed so that I could go back up again.
But I am looking at the Frances once more, yet this time I'm wondering just how busy it actually is? I know the last time it really started to kick on in Sarria, as it always does. But is it more consistent throughout now? And with that, have prices started to sky rocket?
I'm just looking for some information now which I can use to start planning my trip again for next year, where presumably there will be an even larger increase in people walking and maybe prices too.
Buen Camino!
When my wife and iwalked in 2017 we'd look ahead of us and we'd look behind us aaaaahhhh no pilgrims bliss. . We still do this whilst walking around Sydney.Evening all.
As is usually the way, I think, after you've done a Camino - you don't get too far in life before planning your next one.
In 2018 I did the entire Frances from SJPP out to Finisterre. To this day it's still the greatest experience of my life, even after doing 250km on the Del Norte last October. I didn't finish the Del Norte because I wasn't in the right headspace leaving, to be honest. I mentally struggled through to even doing 250km - but I also said to myself that I needed that type of Camino to help me realise just how special my 2018 trip was. I hoped against hope that the Del Norte would return some of the same magic but it didn't, even though I knew it wouldn't. So I think having that dip was needed so that I could go back up again.
But I am looking at the Frances once more, yet this time I'm wondering just how busy it actually is? I know the last time it really started to kick on in Sarria, as it always does. But is it more consistent throughout now? And with that, have prices started to sky rocket?
I'm just looking for some information now which I can use to start planning my trip again for next year, where presumably there will be an even larger increase in people walking and maybe prices too.
Buen Camino!
After 5:earlier caminos this year I decided to try the Camino Frances. I avoided it up till now because of the expected crowds. I walked to Burgos and than changed over to the Via Sanabres. The crowds were too much for me, most people who initially did not want to reserve beds started doing this for three or more days in advance out of fear of not finding a bed. As far as camraderie I did like the Via Sanabres a lot more. The crowds and the infrastructure related to crowds are, for me anyway, an important factor. Of cause you meet a lot of people and there are a lot of spontaneous contacts. In the evening there are so many albergues, restaurants that the crowds disperse very much. Everyday you see new faces. On the Via Sanabres the crowds were smaller, the albergues were fewer, you could expect to see many familiar faces in the evening. A sense of camraderie developed quite naturally, not perse based on "bonding" but on recognition. I liked thatThanks Wilhaus. I'm definitely hoping for more - I want the camraderie of it. As long as there's still room to venture off on your own and find an empty plot of land to admireI'll definitely enjoy the planning. Thanks again
Evening all.
As is usually the way, I think, after you've done a Camino - you don't get too far in life before planning your next one.
In 2018 I did the entire Frances from SJPP out to Finisterre. To this day it's still the greatest experience of my life, even after doing 250km on the Del Norte last October. I didn't finish the Del Norte because I wasn't in the right headspace leaving, to be honest. I mentally struggled through to even doing 250km - but I also said to myself that I needed that type of Camino to help me realise just how special my 2018 trip was. I hoped against hope that the Del Norte would return some of the same magic but it didn't, even though I knew it wouldn't. So I think having that dip was needed so that I could go back up again.
But I am looking at the Frances once more, yet this time I'm wondering just how busy it actually is? I know the last time it really started to kick on in Sarria, as it always does. But is it more consistent throughout now? And with that, have prices started to sky rocket?
I'm just looking for some information now which I can use to start planning my trip again for next year, where presumably there will be an even larger increase in people walking and maybe prices too.
Buen Camino!
The short of it VERY BUSY!!!!Evening all.
As is usually the way, I think, after you've done a Camino - you don't get too far in life before planning your next one.
In 2018 I did the entire Frances from SJPP out to Finisterre. To this day it's still the greatest experience of my life, even after doing 250km on the Del Norte last October. I didn't finish the Del Norte because I wasn't in the right headspace leaving, to be honest. I mentally struggled through to even doing 250km - but I also said to myself that I needed that type of Camino to help me realise just how special my 2018 trip was. I hoped against hope that the Del Norte would return some of the same magic but it didn't, even though I knew it wouldn't. So I think having that dip was needed so that I could go back up again.
But I am looking at the Frances once more, yet this time I'm wondering just how busy it actually is? I know the last time it really started to kick on in Sarria, as it always does. But is it more consistent throughout now? And with that, have prices started to sky rocket?
I'm just looking for some information now which I can use to start planning my trip again for next year, where presumably there will be an even larger increase in people walking and maybe prices too.
Buen Camino!
I'm one day behind youI am currently on the CF. Started in León and now in Rabanal. It is busy early morning, but that is likely due to the heat. Yesterday and today were 28+. By early afternoon the crowds are down to a trickle. Many people are booking ahead and using bag transportation. No one has had any issues with finding a bed but that will change from Sarria. Prices for food in some places are much higher but it is still possible to get a huge sandwich and fresh orange juice for under €5 en route. Communal meals are usually €12, as are the menu del días. People are as social as ever! Hope your plans work out.
Hi, I am on the CF now. I apologize if others below have answered as I have not read sll of the responses. Some nights in some towns all of the albergues are full. Things seem to be more crowded on the weekends. Three weeks ago Pamplona was booked solid on Saturday night. During the week many of the 2 and 3 star pensions do not seem full. I haven’t gotten to Sarria yet and things don’t seem crowded on the trail.Evening all.
As is usually the way, I think, after you've done a Camino - you don't get too far in life before planning your next one.
In 2018 I did the entire Frances from SJPP out to Finisterre. To this day it's still the greatest experience of my life, even after doing 250km on the Del Norte last October. I didn't finish the Del Norte because I wasn't in the right headspace leaving, to be honest. I mentally struggled through to even doing 250km - but I also said to myself that I needed that type of Camino to help me realise just how special my 2018 trip was. I hoped against hope that the Del Norte would return some of the same magic but it didn't, even though I knew it wouldn't. So I think having that dip was needed so that I could go back up again.
But I am looking at the Frances once more, yet this time I'm wondering just how busy it actually is? I know the last time it really started to kick on in Sarria, as it always does. But is it more consistent throughout now? And with that, have prices started to sky rocket?
I'm just looking for some information now which I can use to start planning my trip again for next year, where presumably there will be an even larger increase in people walking and maybe prices too.
Buen Camino!
This sounds like bliss!Hi, four of us left St. Jean yesterday and are now in Zubiri. Roncevalles was far from crowded and the hostel where we’re staying today is less than half full. We left St. Jean at 6:20 am and saw one pilgrim ahead of us, none behind. We met maybe 30 altogether en route to Roncevalles. At the moment the Camino is quieter than I’ve ever seen it. I’ve no idea whether this will continue as we make our way to Santiago but it’s peaceful, the weather is fantastic and there are enough pilgrims to create a lovely’ family’ atmosphere.
Just finished from SJPDP to Leon didn't find it any busier or quieter than previous trips still has the magic of the trail.this is my 18 th Camino and very last done lots different Camino over years but now few weeks away from being 71 yrs young body now telling me enough enjoyed every step of the ways even with bleeding blister's but thank God almighty for his grace allowing me the time to do these wonderful trips will remember them forever and may God bless everyone else on these wonderful pilgrimages.Felt the same when I did the Portuguese and part of the Norte after doing the Frances. Missed the Camraderie which I regained by doing SJPP to Burgos on CF in 2019. Arrived in Bilbao today and bussing tomorrow to Burgos to rejoin the CF for a week or 2. I’ll let you know how I find it and I’ve never prebooked a bed on any of my trips. I’m a mature Walker of 62!!
All online booking seems to going fast, but I m wondering about the albergue, and how full those are. I've booked last couple of nights but kinda want to be around more peregrine's. Wondering if I should take my chances. The heat is a bit of an issue.To add to my previous post, as I'm now in Santiago, the last 100 kms is definitely busy. There's also a festival in Santiago this coming weekend which doesn't help accomodations.
All online booking seems to going fast, but I m wondering about the albergue, and how full those are. I've booked last couple of nights but kinda want to be around more peregrine's. Wondering if I should take my chances. The heat is a bit of an issue.
An interesting article, thank you for posting it.Here’s an interesting article that confirms what some have said —that there are parts of the Francés with declining numbers. So much so that the government of Castilla y León is putting together a “plan de choque” (crisis plan).
Alerta en el Camino de Santiago francés tras perder la mitad de sus peregrinos en diez años
Mientras Galicia advierte de la masificación, esta ruta histórica ha perdido peso progresivamente ante otras opciones. La Junta de Castilla y León, territorio con más kilómetros del trazado, prepara un plan de choquewww.elconfidencial.com
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