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- September 2023
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Yes that’s a good approach if you are not wedded to starting in SJPP.How many days do you have?
If I could make an alternate suggestion, it would be to avoid the 'stop-bus-start' portion of your itinerary and to make one go of it from a point closer to Santiago... perhaps as far as Pamplona or shorter to Logroño. Skipping parts of the camino tends to be a bit disruptive to the flow and experience, and unless there is something particularly compelling you to SJPdP it isn't a logical starting point.
Sjpp is pretty but starting a few “stages” ( these are just guidebook-driven creations) later would be more satisfying, possibly. You get into a rhythm of walking and soon begin to see familiar faces at albergues and cafes, which would be disrupted by bussing ahead. You will get advice here on which sections to skip but every section offers something special. I absolutely loved the meseta with it’s quiet dirt roads and small towns.Hi Pilgrims, The Camino Frances takes 33 days, but we don't have enough days due to workWe like to start in SJPDP then, stop, take a Train/Bus to save around 5 days then start again to complete the walk. Here goes the question From which town would we need to take the transport and where could we stop? Any ideas ?
Buen Camino
Fernando and Liza
Me tooevery section offers something special I absolutely loved the meseta with it’s quiet dirt roads and small towns.
And miss the most sublime part of the camino?If you miss out the flat bit in the middle (Meseta) you'll save 8 days. Finish at Burgos and restart at Leon.
Skip the first 3 to 4 stages and start in Pamplona. Had the same issue when we walked in 2018 and it worked perfectly. Finished our walk in 29 days, and kept thr seamless aspect if our walk in tact. To meet people all along your way and then skip over stages would seem like starting over to me. Just my 2 cents!! Buen Camino to you!Hi Pilgrims, The Camino Frances takes 33 days, but we don't have enough days due to workWe like to start in SJPDP then, stop, take a Train/Bus to save around 5 days then start again to complete the walk. Here goes the question From which town would we need to take the transport and where could we stop? Any ideas ?
Buen Camino
Fernando and Liza
I appreciate the fact that you experienced the Meseta by bike. I have never understood that there is any correlation between riding a bike and walking a pilgrimage. I know also that pilgrimage has many different factors that affect what pilgrimage looks like today and what it looked like in the middle ages. I will not say it is sacrilege to not walk the meseta. For me it would be, but for others I say it is your decision. But I do believe it is incorrect and, in my opinion bad advice to equate two completely different experiences. I know this sounds like a criticism, (in a way it is haha) but it is what I believe and another way to look at this.We cycled across the meseta in 2.5 days which is normally a 7-8 day walk so we saved 5, 5.5 days doing that. Lots of people say it’s sacrilege to not walk the meseta but we still experienced it, just by bike instead. It was so much fun too! We had our bikes delivered to La Fabrica, our albergue in Tardajos which is about 12kms outside of Burgos (GREAT albergue, by the way) and dropped them off in Leon. You may also want to factor in a couple of rest days here and there, too, based on how your body and your mind are feeling. I did witness people basically running to Santiago because they had a flight to catch, which didn’t seem too relaxing or fun to me. You can even take a bus to cross the meseta too which would probably be perfect and would also afford a rest day or two.
Whatever you decide, Buen Camino!
We like to start in SJPDP then, stop, take a Train/Bus to save around 5 days then start again to complete the walk.
Reviewing what many other members have written who have walked many caminos it seems like most agree with me. Start further along the camino. I think you see it is probably far better for you spiritually and mentally to have a continuous pilgrimage.Skipping parts of the camino tends to be a bit disruptive to the flow and experience, and unless there is something particularly compelling you to SJPdP it isn't a logical starting point.
I am guessing by what he wrote that he has about 28 days. I could be wrong. (28 days is what I based my suggestion on where to start his camino)@nandogdc - Could you tell us how many walking days you have, and how far can you comfortably walk each day?
This is the way…excellent suggestion.So many options, but I’d hate to suggest which parts to miss.
Re the 33 days …plenty of people walk the Frances in 25 days through to 40 days … some less, some more, and anything in between.
You already know you want to start in SJPP. So how about start walking, see how you are going, and make the decision later. If you are wanting to book accommodation ahead, you can do that for the first two weeks and then as you go along.
After the first couple of weeks, you’ll know how far still to walk and how long it’s likely to take you. When you arrive, for example, in Sahagun (half way), or Leon or Astorga - one of those could be a good place to make your decision to skip the number of days you need to, and still walk in to SdeC if that’s important to you. Seems a shame to decide in advance if you don’t need to. Hope that makes sense.
Good luck with whatever you decide.
Most people get these estimations somewhat wrong, and it takes as long as it takes. Normal faster or slower is 3 to 8 weeks, with most somewhere in the middle, though there are extremes outside that range if some are extremely fast or more often extremely slow.Hi Pilgrims, The Camino Frances takes 33 days, but we don't have enough days due to workWe like to start in SJPDP then, stop, take a Train/Bus to save around 5 days then start again to complete the walk. Here goes the question From which town would we need to take the transport and where could we stop? Any ideas ?
Buen Camino
Fernando and Liza
Very good advice.Following some third party stages plan like Brierley's is less of a good plan than making one's own way.
@nandogdc - Could you tell us how many walking days you have, and how far can you comfortably walk each day?
30-August-2023 | Depart Home | Brisbane AU | |
2 | Transit Days | Travel days prior to starting | |
01-September-2023 | Start in SJPDP | The day you plan to start walking | |
800 | Total Kms | Total Kms you plan to walk | |
25 | Preferred Kms / Day | Your prefered daily walking distance | |
3 | Planned Rest Days | Your expected number of rest days | |
35 | Total days on Camino | The total of your walking and rest days | |
06-October-2023 | Arrive in Santiago | The day you plan to end your Camino | |
4 | Homeward Transit Days | Travel days heading home | |
10-October-2023 | Arrive Home | ||
41 | Total days away |
This is the plan
30-August-2023 Depart Home Brisbane AU 2 Transit Days Travel days prior to starting 01-September-2023 Start in SJPDP The day you plan to start walking 800 Total Kms Total Kms you plan to walk 25 Preferred Kms / Day Your prefered daily walking distance 3 Planned Rest Days Your expected number of rest days 35 Total days on Camino The total of your walking and rest days 06-October-2023 Arrive in Santiago The day you plan to end your Camino 4 Homeward Transit Days Travel days heading home 10-October-2023 Arrive Home 41 Total days away
I am counting a day from the 4 days I return home.Your plan shows 35 days on the Camino, but no days in Santiago.
30-August-2023 | Depart Home | Brisbane AU | |
2 | Transit Days | Travel days prior to starting | |
01-September-2023 | Start in SJPDP | The day you plan to start walking | |
800 | Total Kms | Total Kms you plan to walk | |
25 | Preferred Kms / Day | Your prefered daily walking distance | |
3 | Planned Rest Days | Your expected number of rest days | |
35 | Total days on Camino | The total of your walking and rest days | |
06-October-2023 | Arrive in Santiago | The day you plan to end your Camino | |
1 | Days in Santiago | ||
3 | Homeward Transit Days | Travel days heading home | |
10-October-2023 | Arrive Home | ||
41 | Total days away |
Hi Trecile, The website does not seem to work.If you are used to walking long distances you could adapt this 26 day stage guide. But I'm with everyone who has said to choose a starting point that will allow you to comfortably reach Santiago in the time that you have available. And work in a few extra days in case of illness, injury, blisters, etc. Burgos would give you enough time, and if you arrive in Santiago ahead of schedule you can continue on to Finisterre and/or Muxía.
Here's a 21 day plan for starting at Burgos, that would give you those contingency days, or allow you to walk to the coast.
Hmm, I had trouble with it yesterday and I sent them a message via Facebook. They said that they had fixed the problem. It's been working fine for me all day.Hi Trecile, The website does not seem to work.
The OP asked for ways to save time on their Camino so I made a suggestion. I don’t understand why some people feel the need to judge others on how they complete their Camino and say how I did it is ‘incorrect’. It’s just uncalled for.I appreciate the fact that you experienced the Meseta by bike. I have never understood that there is any correlation between riding a bike and walking a pilgrimage. I know also that pilgrimage has many different factors that affect what pilgrimage looks like today and what it looked like in the middle ages. I will not say it is sacrilege to not walk the meseta. For me it would be, but for others I say it is your decision. But I do believe it is incorrect and, in my opinion bad advice to equate two completely different experiences. I know this sounds like a criticism, (in a way it is haha) but it is what I believe and another way to look at this.
Reviewing what many other members have written who have walked many caminos it seems like most agree with me. Start further along the camino. I think you see it is probably far better for you spiritually and mentally to have a continuous pilgrimage.
I have no idea your reasons for walking, your experience with long continuous distance walking, or your fitness level. It looks like you have about 28 days to walk. From Logrono that would be 22k a day. If you can do more that is great because it would give you the ability to take a couple of rest days as you never know what will happen to your body or your feet/blisters. It would also be great not to rush out of Santiago after your first Camino. You will want to experience the Pilgrim mass and the wonder of Santiago. You will also meet some of the most fantastic people on earth and wouldn't you want to have at least 1 or 2 final lunches, dinners and coffees with some of them. Remember you probably will want to do it again one day and then hopefully you will have more time and you can start from St. Jean or from a new camino you read about and want to discover.
Hi Pilgrims, The Camino Frances takes 33 days, but we don't have enough days due to workWe like to start in SJPDP then, stop, take a Train/Bus to save around 5 days then start again to complete the walk. Here goes the question From which town would we need to take the transport and where could we stop? Any ideas ?
Buen Camino
Fernando and Liza
This is the plan - I think we can do it allas we are quite fit. Maybe I am overthinking this too much.
Thanks
I met 2 pilgrims doing this in June. It's a cool idea if you're short on time and don't want to skip anything!We cycled across the meseta in 2.5 days which is normally a 7-8 day walk so we saved 5, 5.5 days doing that. Lots of people say it’s sacrilege to not walk the meseta but we still experienced it, just by bike instead. It was so much fun too! We had our bikes delivered to La Fabrica, our albergue in Tardajos which is about 12kms outside of Burgos (GREAT albergue, by the way) and dropped them off in Leon. You may also want to factor in a couple of rest days here and there, too, based on how your body and your mind are feeling. I did witness people basically running to Santiago because they had a flight to catch, which didn’t seem too relaxing or fun to me. You can even take a bus to cross the meseta too which would probably be perfect and would also afford a rest day or two.
Whatever you decide, Buen Camino!
@shawlaw, from whom did you rent your bikes? Places I've seen so far required 7 day rental, which is more than needed to bike the stage you suggested, which I also thought I would like to try to do.We cycled across the meseta in 2.5 days which is normally a 7-8 day walk so we saved 5, 5.5 days doing that. Lots of people say it’s sacrilege to not walk the meseta but we still experienced it, just by bike instead. It was so much fun too! We had our bikes delivered to La Fabrica, our albergue in Tardajos which is about 12kms outside of Burgos (GREAT albergue, by the way) and dropped them off in Leon. You may also want to factor in a couple of rest days here and there, too, based on how your body and your mind are feeling. I did witness people basically running to Santiago because they had a flight to catch, which didn’t seem too relaxing or fun to me. You can even take a bus to cross the meseta too which would probably be perfect and would also afford a rest day or two.
Whatever you decide, Buen Camino!
I have read both @Shalaw and @It56ny posts again, and I think you both acknowledged that there were different points of view on whether cycling the Meseta is the best way to shorten the time needed for a Camino.The OP asked for ways to save time on their Camino so I made a suggestion. I don’t understand why some people feel the need to judge others on how they complete their Camino and say how I did it is ‘incorrect’. It’s just uncalled for.
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