- Time of past OR future Camino
- Francés, Norte, Salvador, Primitivo, Portuguese
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I think that the "good news" of the statistics is that for the majority of the Camino Frances (before Sarria) it is not becoming too crowded. In fact, the new albergues that have been built in the last few years need us!Very interesting report and conclusion........
First conclusions of the author pending final statistics
The trend seems clear. The millenarian and long distance international road is gradually becoming a short, easy, affordable Galician experience. And devoid of the character of adventure, spirituality and depth it once had. The market has attracted the camino in his nets. The balance has already been broken between the two ways of conceiving the pilgrimage. We are witnessing the victory of the vaporous, commercial, ephemeral vision of an experience that is no longer given the importance it deserves.
I think that the "good news" of the statistics is that for the majority of the Camino Frances (before Sarria) it is not becoming too crowded. In fact, the new albergues that have been built in the last few years need us!
And I understand the appeal of the Portuguese route from Porto, since it can be done in less than two weeks, which makes it appealing for those who have 2 weeks of vacation(holiday) time to do the Camino, and want to arrive in Santiago
The Portugués de la Costa, followed by the Camino Inglés had the highest growth rates in 2018. Not the highest numbers of pilgrims.the statement under "Main trends" that "the most popular route is Caminho Portugués de la Costa, followed by Camino Inglés" is clearly wrong - they must have meant something else. I couldn't easily track it back to the source.
This is not correct. The attendance of the Camino Francés continues to grow.The attendance of Camino Francés continues to drop, and for the first time falls below the 60% mark (56.88% in 2018).
I noticed that the writer (A. Pombo) characterises this as a "continuation of the accelerated agony" of the Camino Frances (Prosigue la acelerada agonía del Camino Francés, que por vez primera baja del 60% del total de peregrinos (56,88%)). As I said, I find these statistics interesting and I sympathise with the concerns about high numbers of pilgrims on the road at the same time and with the concerns about their potential lack of the right attitude which might affect those with the right attitude but this kind of polemics puts me off.Camino Frances in 2017: 180,738 pilgrims. They represent 60,64% of the total number of pilgrims recorded.
Camino Frances in 2018: 186,199 pilgrims. They represent 56,88% of the total number of pilgrims recorded.
The attendance of the Camino Francés continues to grow.
Heavens no.Is it losing its meaning?
Come on, Kirkie!the average (a makey-uppy piece of fake news)
I believe that is very true on less traveled caminos. I have not walked the CF since 2014 but from what I have read and what I have heard from other pilgrims there are more and more of the "touragrino" people and the numbers are growing. I hope you are alot more correct than I am. I will walk the CF starting in November so I doubt that will be a good indicator of my theory.Heavens no.
Being diluted in places, perhaps, but there are still plenty of pilgrims out there.
That's what dilution means, and what I meant.but from what I have read and what I have heard from other pilgrims there are more and more of the "touragrino" people and the numbers are growing.
I am not sure about San Nicolas but I was just watching a short documentary and they stayed at San Anton and it looked like a wonderful place to be. Unfortunately it closes in September and according to Gronze and Wise Pilgrim San Nicholas (it is in Larrasoána, correct?) closes in October. I don't start from SJPP on October 29th. I may be in Larrasoaña by the 30th so maybe I will get in under the wire.That's what dilution means, and what I meant.
Sure, on parts of the Francés there are plenty of people having an inexpensive holiday - but if you don't act like a tourigrino, you won't have to deal with so many. Basic places (like San Anton and San Nicholas, both without electricity), don't attract so many 'tourigrinos.'
The one I was thinking of is near Itero de la Vega. I'm not sure when it closes, but hopefully you're lucky, @It56ny.San Nicholas (it is in Larrasoána, correct?)
Average. The average person. Show me that person! Please. When I went to school, last century, that person did not ever appear at any event...Come on, Kirkie!The "average" is as good an indicator as many words are (e.g. "about double, if you consider the grand total over all the days in the year") and better than other words ("many more") .
It is too bad that the various reports and summaries have made it so hard for us to understand the non-fakey facts that have been gathered.
But we were talking about numbers - the number of pilgrims each month. Numbers can be averaged (and a different number emerges, which can be informative); people cannot be averaged and result in a new and different person.The average person.
Interesting that Porto has become the Sarria of the Portuguese camino. This is a shame as Portugal is a beautiful country and it is seen at it best when walking from Lisbon.
Interesting! We did the P in '17 and finished the Ingles last week. We saw few pilgrims on any day while walking.I found some interesting statistics about pilgrim numbers, which routes are being walked more and less, average distance walked by pilgrims, etc.
This page has the trends of the Camino, such as there are now more people starting from Porto than SJPdP
A snippet from the site (I used Google Chrome browser, which translated into English)
The main trends of the 2018 Santiago Camino reported by gronze.com
- Porto is ahead of Saint-Jean-Pied-de-Port for the first time as a starting point.
- The number of people entering Sarria continues to increase (one point compared to 2017), with 27% of the total in 2018.
- The number of pilgrims from Ponferrada, Astorga, León, Burgos or Pamplona is decreasing.
- The most popular route is Caminho Portugués de la Costa, followed by Camino Inglés.
- The attendance of Camino Francés continues to drop, and for the first time falls below the 60% mark (56.88% in 2018).
Tendances du Camino de Santiago 2018 - Pèlerins de Compostelle
Antón Pombo vient de publier sur le site espagnol gronze.com une analyse des tendances du camino de Santiago 2018. Traduction des principaux éléments.pelerinsdecompostelle.com
This page shows the statistics of how many pilgrims started from SJPdP each month, including this graph
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Les statistiques 2018 du bureau des pèlerins de Saint-Jean-Pied-de-Port - Pèlerins de Compostelle
Analyse de l'évolution entre 2012 et 2018 et des statistiques 2018 du bureau des pèlerins de Saint-Jean-Pied-de-Port.Par Fabienne Bodan, auteure, webmaster.pelerinsdecompostelle.com
I tend to think of Tui as the Sarria of the Portuguese Camino. I think of Porto as the SJPP, where most pilgrims start (who aren't starting in Tui). Then Lisbon becomes like the Le Puy of the Portuguese Camino and pilgrims starting south of Lisbon become like pilgrims starting in Switzerland or Poland or the like on the Frances.Interesting that Porto has become the Sarria of the Portuguese camino. This is a shame as Portugal is a beautiful country and it is seen at it best when walking from Lisbon.
Very interesting report and conclusion........
First conclusions of the author pending final statistics
The trend seems clear. The millenarian and long distance international road is gradually becoming a short, easy, affordable Galician experience. And devoid of the character of adventure, spirituality and depth it once had. The market has attracted the camino in his nets. The balance has already been broken between the two ways of conceiving the pilgrimage. We are witnessing the victory of the vaporous, commercial, ephemeral vision of an experience that is no longer given the importance it deserves.
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