Search 57,387 Camino Questions

A donation to the forum removes ads for you, and supports Ivar in his work running it


Advertisement
When you walk the Camino, and suddenly a pandemic appears
Camino Cups
Browse our selection of Camino Cups on the forum store

COVID Italy New Restrictions on US visitors (9/1 announcement)

Status
Not open for further replies.

MM HILL

Frances, Le Puy, Foothill, Coastal, St Francis
Past OR future Camino
2021
ALL US visitors and those who had spent 14 days in the US prior to arriving in Italy will require a PCR or Antigen test 72 hrs prior to arrival, regardless of Vaccination status. We are from the US, will be in France for 13-14 days before taking a TRAIN to Italy. I can’t find information about whether we will need to provide PCR or Antigen test in our situation. Does anyone have knowledge/facts of this?
Here is the announcement: https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/ne...es-strict-travel-restrictions-on-us-visitors/
 
Learn how to Get "Camino Ready " 2nd Edition. In English, Spanish, German and Korean
how to successfully prepare for your Camino
This book's focus is on reducing the risk of failure through being well prepared.

Kathar1na

Member
Past OR future Camino
To Santiago and back (roads & paths; Tours; Francés; sea; roads & paths)
See below: this official EU information website will give you a good overview for France to Italy trips and this official Italian government website will provide you with more detailed information for your specific case of travelling into Italy. Note that currently France is a C country in the Italian classification system:

https://reopen.europa.eu/en/from-to/FRA/ITA
https://infocovid.viaggiaresicuri.it/index_en.html

The rules are made for general cases and do not cover every specific individual case. But your's is covered: 13-14 days in France and 0-1 day in the USA.

I think it is unlikely that anyone will control whether you comply when you cross the border from France to Italy by train or when you then stay in Italy. This is what most of us in Europe do when we travel to another EU country by train, by bus or by car: we try our best to find out what applies to our case and then we follow the rules whether we expect controls or not.

Bon voyage!
 

JabbaPapa

"True Pilgrim"
Past OR future Camino
100 characters or fewer : see signature details
ALL US visitors and those who had spent 14 days in the US prior to arriving in Italy will require a PCR or Antigen test 72 hrs prior to arrival, regardless of Vaccination status. We are from the US, will be in France for 13-14 days before taking a TRAIN to Italy. I can’t find information about whether we will need to provide PCR or Antigen test in our situation. Does anyone have knowledge/facts of this?
No sorry -- this is a developing situation, and what Italy may decide in future is still an unknown.

Though Kathar1na is quite right that if you spend those 14 days in France, you will be considered as traveling from France and not from the US.
 

Kathar1na

Member
Past OR future Camino
To Santiago and back (roads & paths; Tours; Francés; sea; roads & paths)
A forum member who lives in Italy, @GPeachy, had posted earlier in a thread: Here in Italy the newest government decree requires travelers [coming directly] from the US to have a negative COVID-19 test (within 72 hrs) in addition to proof of vaccination.

Below is the link to this new Italian decree. As it says at the end of the decree, it is currently in force from 31 August 2021 until 25 October: https://www.esteri.it/mae/resource/doc/2021/08/ordinanza_esteri_28-8.pdf
 

Monique Craig

New Member
Past OR future Camino
Camino Frances Sept - Oct 2014, Camino Portugues Sept - Oct 2017
ALL US visitors and those who had spent 14 days in the US prior to arriving in Italy will require a PCR or Antigen test 72 hrs prior to arrival, regardless of Vaccination status. We are from the US, will be in France for 13-14 days before taking a TRAIN to Italy. I can’t find information about whether we will need to provide PCR or Antigen test in our situation. Does anyone have knowledge/facts of this?
Here is the announcement: https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/ne...es-strict-travel-restrictions-on-us-visitors/
My answer would be get one or the other anyway that way you're covered
 
Camino Jewellery
A selection of Camino Jewellery
Learn how to Get "Camino Ready " 2nd Edition. In English, Spanish, German and Korean

Monique Craig

New Member
Past OR future Camino
Camino Frances Sept - Oct 2014, Camino Portugues Sept - Oct 2017
ALL US visitors and those who had spent 14 days in the US prior to arriving in Italy will require a PCR or Antigen test 72 hrs prior to arrival, regardless of Vaccination status. We are from the US, will be in France for 13-14 days before taking a TRAIN to Italy. I can’t find information about whether we will need to provide PCR or Antigen test in our situation. Does anyone have knowledge/facts of this?
Here is the announcement: https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/ne...es-strict-travel-restrictions-on-us-visitors/
Easier just to get one even if it costs.
 

Kathar1na

Member
Past OR future Camino
To Santiago and back (roads & paths; Tours; Francés; sea; roads & paths)
Easier just to get one even if it costs.
I think you need to clarify your advice for travelling by train from France to Italy because I don't get it.

On Monday I travelled by train from one EU country to another one and then back again, and believe me, finding out/checking that I didn't need a test was a lot easier than arranging for a test, getting the test done and paying for it and doing so for no reason whatsoever. :cool:

If @MM HILL stays in France for 14 days and then takes a train to Italy, he will not need a test. And that is unlikely to change throughout the whole month of September and most of October; and very easy to check and confirm. Did you not check out the links to the Italian government websites already provided in this thread?
 
Last edited:

Klogwog

New Member
Past OR future Camino
new to this just retired and want to walk the Comino
Off course if you wait till 2022 ,this may not occur,
 

Monique Craig

New Member
Past OR future Camino
Camino Frances Sept - Oct 2014, Camino Portugues Sept - Oct 2017
I think you need to clarify your advice for travelling by train from France to Italy because I don't get it.

On Monday I travelled by train from one EU country to another one and then back again, and believe me, finding out/checking that I didn't need a test was a lot easier than arranging for a test, getting the test done and paying for it and doing so for no reason whatsoever. :cool:

If @MM HILL stays in France for 14 days and then takes a train to Italy, he will not need a test. And that is unlikely to change throughout the whole month of September and most of October; and very easy to check and confirm. Did you not check out the links to the Italian government websites already provided in this thread?
I seem to have hit a hot topic. My advice simply has to with my motto, "better to be safe than sorry". I'm proactive not reactive. One never knows when the rules will change since the situation is getting worse not better. My advice is based on my upcoming trip to France. I have always questioned why we could enter France would let us in only with proof of vaccination. We all know about breakthrough cases of Delta after having received the vaccine, even 2nd shot. So France is letting people in who could be asymptomatic Delta carriers. I think the rules will change again and it could change throughout the EU.
 

Kathar1na

Member
Past OR future Camino
To Santiago and back (roads & paths; Tours; Francés; sea; roads & paths)
I think the rules will change again and it could change throughout the EU.
The rules are constantly changing within the EU and they are constantly different from one EU country to the next. Seriously, what France requests from non-domestic tourists is different from what Italy requests, and what Spain requests from non-domestic tourists is different from what Germany requests. We have now lived with this situation for months and months and it doesn't look like it's going to change any time soon. However, there is a clear tendency to remove test requirements from those who are fully vaccinated, and impose them mainly on the non-vaccinated.

While I understand that travellers from the USA and elsewhere far away may be anxious not to miss their flights and feel safer when they have a negative PCR test result on their mobile phones just in case it is needed after all, I really don't see the point to do so - get tests that are not required - for cross-border train trips within Europe. I don't do it and I don't know anyone who would.
 
Last edited:
A Quest of St. James, Tommy Ray, Book Cover, Image
Come follow the vivid imagery of this life-changing adventure.
Camino Way Markers
Original Camino Way markers made in bronze. Two models, one from Castilla & Leon and the other from Galicia.

C clearly

Moderator
Staff member
Past OR future Camino
Most years since 2012. Hoping now for 2022.
I seem to have hit a hot topic. My advice simply has to with my motto, "better to be safe than sorry". I'm proactive not reactive. One never knows when the rules will change since the situation is getting worse not better.
Yes, I like to be cautious, too. But in making plans, first I want to know what the requirements are. Then I consider adding other measures such as additional testing, additional connection time, printed documents as well as digital, or double masking, etc. What extra measures make sense to one person are not the same as what makes sense to another person. So it's important for us to be very clear on what the requirements are, and what our personal choices are.
 

peregrina2000

Moderator
Staff member
Several current threads involve giving opinions about the rules, giving advice that is not based on the rules, and criticizing those who tell us what the rules are.

You may “question why France lets us in with only proof of covid vaccination,” but the forum is not the place to pose that question, sorry. The forum is the place to ask a factual question about what France requires. Forum members are trying to provide facts, always with the caveat that things may change on a dime. Keeping up to date with current regulations is no small task, and there is nothing to be gained by derailing these factual discussions with individual opinions about whether some country’s regulations make sense or not.

Remember what we have posted in numerous threads about covid discussions:

We will delete:
  1. Statements bordering on misinformation according to public health guidance.
  2. Opinion/comments for/against/about vaccines and variant transmissibility.
  3. Covid-focused opinion and rationalization of going or not going on the camino
  4. Other covid-related debates that have been thoroughly exhausted on the forum
We do think it’s important, for prospective and current walkers, to hear about what’s actually happening on the camino. But that kind of information seems like an opening for the spiral into the four topics noted above.

We know covid is going to be with us and the camino for a long time to come, but we simply cannot keep having these debates. PLEASE limit your posts to factual and pertinent information.



As of today, the information provided by @Kathar1na is accurate, so let’s close the thread. When new regulations are adopted, a new thread can alert forum members who come here for factual updates.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Did not find what you were looking for? Search here

Popular Resources

“All” Albergues on the Camino Frances in one pdf ivar
  • Featured
“All” Albergues on the Camino Frances in one pdf
4.95 star(s) 101 ratings
Downloads
15,189
Updated
A selection of favorite albergues on the Camino Francés Ton van Tilburg
Favorite Albergues along the Camino Frances
4.83 star(s) 35 ratings
Downloads
7,869
Updated
Profile maps of all 34 stages of the Camino Frances ivar
Profile maps of all 34 stages of the Camino Frances
4.88 star(s) 24 ratings
Downloads
7,673
Updated

Similar threads

Forum Rules

Forum Rules

Camino Updates on YouTube

Camino Conversations

Most downloaded Resources

Top