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Limited beds in Albergues

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I have just started walking out of Porto, and was looking forward at accomodation availability for the next few days, and it seems all the bookable accomodation in albergues is full! I don’t want to have to resort to private rooms every night and was wondering if others were finding it difficult to get albergue beds?

I walked the Frances last year and hardly ever booked ahead and as was not intending to on the Portugues Coastal, but really nervous that I will have to rush each day to find accommodation.

I’m interested to hear your experience if currently or recently on the coastal and senda litoral route

Thanks
 
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I walked in July just before the Catholic Youth Assembly in Lisbon and had at start hard times to get a bed.
My solution: start very early (5:30-6:00) and stop early, making 30+ kms per day so I came in front of the "wave" and used not the usual stops for the night. The infrastructure on the CP isn't bad, but not as good like on the CF, that's a fact.

Redondela and Tui were a banger, fully packed with pilgrims, so many walked on not finding a bed in town.

Hope you enjoy your walk, though.
 
Hi. I've just returned and had no issue with accommodation. Rubieas Ponte De Lima, Valenca etc plenty of availability. Are you on the Coast??
 
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I have just started walking out of Porto, and was looking forward at accomodation availability for the next few days, and it seems all the bookable accomodation in albergues is full! I don’t want to have to resort to private rooms every night and was wondering if others were finding it difficult to get albergue beds?

I walked the Frances last year and hardly ever booked ahead and as was not intending to on the Portugues Coastal, but really nervous that I will have to rush each day to find accommodation.

I’m interested to hear your experience if currently or recently on the coastal and senda litoral route

Thanks
I don't want to discourage you, but yes, we have had difficulties. Leaving Porto on September 7, we thought we'd do albergues. Our 1st albergue on the Senda Litoral had 24 beds but tried to accommodate others in need. There must have been 40 pilgrims total counting those on floors. After that we (5) started looking for apartments, etc. and had difficulties still. We jumped to the Central from Esposende to Barcelos and still had difficulties. Today our apartment was double booked by Booking and we ended up in multiple rooms in a hotel in Padron. Looking ahead to Santiago, available beds are few and expensive. You might be more successful with albergues between cities, but the Camino Portugues is busy.
 
I have just started walking out of Porto, and was looking forward at accomodation availability for the next few days, and it seems all the bookable accomodation in albergues is full! I don’t want to have to resort to private rooms every night and was wondering if others were finding it difficult to get albergue beds?

I walked the Frances last year and hardly ever booked ahead and as was not intending to on the Portugues Coastal, but really nervous that I will have to rush each day to find accommodation.

I’m interested to hear your experience if currently or recently on the coastal and senda litoral route

Thanks
Apologies. Just saw that you are on the coast. Many pilgrims I had met had crossed back over to the Central route. Good look going forward. Its not a great situation when you have to book ahead. Sometimes however when they use booking.com it is advisable to ring direct. In Rubiàes 8 pilgrims had booked via phone and never showed. Daniel
 
It's a whole new world on the Camino and not just on the Camino Frances!
I've seen more and more posts from people walking ALL the various routes!
And many many going back again and again - like some of us here on the Forum.
I think unless a person is extremely flexible, or gets up and starts extremely early. the days of not booking are close to being at an end in some villages.
I've booked all my group's lodging for May 2024 and some places were already full.
I know business must be great for those living/working on the Camino, but in my heart of hearts, I sort of hope this wave of bucket list people ends soon - but I don't expect it will.
Fondly remembering those quiet Camino days - wondering if my body is up to a quieter winter Camino...
 
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I have just started walking out of Porto, and was looking forward at accomodation availability for the next few days, and it seems all the bookable accomodation in albergues is full! I don’t want to have to resort to private rooms every night and was wondering if others were finding it difficult to get albergue beds?

I walked the Frances last year and hardly ever booked ahead and as was not intending to on the Portugues Coastal, but really nervous that I will have to rush each day to find accommodation.

I’m interested to hear your experience if currently or recently on the coastal and senda litoral route

Thanks
I've been walking from Irun on the North route since September 6th... I've been finding it very difficult to get albergues booked nearer the big cities. I've learned the best way to secure an albergue is to call ahead when they open around 3pm on the same day of arrival and try to get there before 8pm at the very latest. I am currently in Aviles and missed the main albergue last night. Although I've just been to the albergue to ask for my credentials/ pilgrims passport to be stamped
 
It's a whole new world on the Camino and not just on the Camino Frances!
I've seen more and more posts from people walking ALL the various routes!
And many many going back again and again - like some of us here on the Forum.
I think unless a person is extremely flexible, or gets up and starts extremely early. the days of not booking are close to being at an end in some villages.
I've booked all my group's lodging for May 2024 and some places were already full.
I know business must be great for those living/working on the Camino, but in my heart of hearts, I sort of hope this wave of bucket list people ends soon - but I don't expect it will.
Fondly remembering those quiet Camino days - wondering if my body is up to a quieter winter Camino...
This is why I am walking in November! Hopefully it will quiet down by then.
 
I'm on the Portuguese coastal it's very difficult getting Albergues, I have been told pilgrims numbers are up by 75 percent this year, I have seen many getting turned away
 
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We are currently on the Primitivo and booking 3 nights in advance to have the peace of mind of having a bed to rely on. Tonight at Grandas the municipal was full by 2 pm and the other albergues here are fully booked for tomorrow as well. Completely different to walking it in 2018 where we never booked in advance and always felt confident of having a bed. I miss the freedom of stopping when I want to, but alas, this is the new normal.
 
I'm on the Portuguese coastal it's very difficult getting Albergues, I have been told pilgrims numbers are up by 75 percent this year, I have seen many getting turned away

Tonight at Grandas the municipal was full by 2 pm and the other albergues here are fully booked for tomorrow as well.
It's going to be interesting to see if the statistics match the experience you guys are having, or if this is just a short ( a week long or so) blip. Which often ties in with the start of holidays somewhere - like spring break in the US or holidays in Europe. Either way, definitely not nice for you guys.
 
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Fondly remembering those quiet Camino days
Hmmm . But then, you yourself actually contribute to the increase with your tour groups! Don't get me wrong I'm actually envious that you've found a way to enjoy walking and make money from it however without experienced guides like yourself many would not actually do the Camino.
Mind you the same could be said for bag transport, YouTubers ( both you and I are also guilty there), a certain film, even books.
Actually it's kind of ironic that those who truly love being alone on the trail can contribute to the very crowd's that they try to avoid.
 
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Hi. I've just returned and had no issue with accommodation. Rubieas Ponte De Lima, Valenca etc plenty of availability. Are you on the Coast??
Hi Dilbin, Just wanted to know how you found your accommodations. We are doing that route soon and wanted a good website that doesn't lead me to a site to sell me a trip. Thanks ever so much.
 
Hmmm . But then, you yourself actually contribute to the increase with your tour groups! Don't get me wrong I'm actually envious that you've found a way to enjoy walking and make money from it however without experienced guides like yourself many would not actually do the Camino.
Mind you the same could be said for bag transport, YouTubers ( both you and I are also guilty there), a certain film, even books.
Actually it's kind of ironic that those who truly love being alone on the trail can contribute to the very crowd's that they try to avoid.
Ok. you hit a nerve.

:) Yes, I'm sure my 7 pilgrims a year must make a HUGE difference in the crowding on the Camino.
Those 7 pilgrims each year take up a LOT of space! lol!

Well, first of all, we book private lodging, we don't stay in albergues.
So I doubt we're affecting the number of free beds.
And the fact is, they'd go anyway - via some other company if I weren't here. ::🤷::

My 7 pilgrims spread out. Each person goes at their own rate of speed, alone or with companions as any other pilgrim does. They don't get off the bus right before a village and swarm in to get their Credentials stamped so they can get their "Compostela" in Santiago, and get picked up on the other side of the village, like I've seen over and over and over.

As far as making money, I think when all is said and done, I may make about $1/hour for all the hours of work I put in. This week alone, I've spent about 20 hours online with not only my group members but the 1.6 thousand members of my FREE Facebook Camino Planning Group. I send all of those people to this forum, by the way, for more information. I probably spend those 20 hours a week EVERY week from now until March when I leave for Spain.

I do give back. I use all those dollars I make to support the Camino - I pay for my membership here, for my membership with the Confraternity of St. James, for my membership in American Pilgrims on the Camino, and to volunteer as hospitalera when I can. I also support the Camino by picking up bags of trash each year and cleaning every albergue I stay in when I'm walking alone.

I suppose I do contribute to the crowds by helping the people in that group - though again, they're already planning on walking. I do try to train them to be better pilgrims along with information on planning their own trip. I talk to them about Pilgrim Etiquette, paying a generous donativo, buying in bars where they use the toilet, and picking up their trash.

My yearly group trip, by the way, is a way to do the long distance walking prescribed by my specialist for my Multiple Chemical Sensitivities. My Federal Disability just won't cover the yearly trip. So I book for 8 people, add in my airfare, my costs for 6-8 weeks of walking, and a bit for the hours and hours and hours I spend, and divide the total by 7 and that's what they pay. I start planning the trip almost a year in advance. Looking at other groups that charge for self-guided trips, one that is around $1,000 for help just from SJPP to Pamplona, I feel my prices are pretty darned good, considering I pay for upscale lodging, backpack transport, and all private taxis inside the dates of the trip.

Walking for 6 weeks chelates enough chemicals that I can feel "normal" for up to 6 months. For 6 months I won't have joint pain, migraines, muscle aches, or debilitating brain fog until the chemicals once again start building up in my body. So for me, it's an answer to prayer. . . a prayer I left at the altar in Santiago on my very first Camino in 2006.

My whining isn't about pilgrimages to Santiago. It's about the rude people who scatter toilet paper, bottles, and trash, who start fights with hospitaleros, who click click click through villages at 4 am laughing at the top of their lungs waking up the entire village, and who complain about albergues when they could well afford private lodging.

Ironic? Maybe... or maybe just whistful thinking - the same type most people of a certain age have when daydreaming about the good old days...
 
Hi Dilbin, Just wanted to know how you found your accommodations. We are doing that route soon and wanted a good website that doesn't lead me to a site to sell me a trip. Thanks ever so much.
The Gronze website is a great resource that lists accommodations on most of the Camino routes. It's only in Spanish, but if you use the Chrome browser it will automatically translate to English or the language of your choice.


There are also Camino apps that list accommodations. The Wise Pilgrim app even has a feature that helps you compose WhatsApp messages to albergues.

 
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@Anniesantiago , appreciate your very detailed response, including answers to issues that I didn't even raise, but certainly are worth talking about !
I am actually aware of why you walk, funnily enough your YouTube videos were some of the first that I watched. And I applaud your doctor (if I remember correctly) for suggesting long distance walking in the first place. I also applaud you for all the work that you do for the Camino, as I do all of the others both on and off this forum.
Your comments about the rude, whinging, littering pilgrims are also spot on. More education about this and the issue of Donativos etc is definitely needed.

And yeah I kind of miss 'the good old days' when I could freely travel the world was just my backpack on my back. But then, 40 years ago I was having exactly the same conversation with other older travellers who regretted the passing of their world ! The world changes, and not always for the better.

But my main points still hold true. Regardless as to whether or not it's only seven pilgrims and whether or not they would go with another guide if you weren't there, they are still on the trail with a guide and using beds. (I said nothing about Albergues ). And every guide that brings people ads to that number regardless as to whether it's only four or five , where they sleep or how well spread out they are along the trail - they are there. Without a guide to organise things and reassure them SOME of those pilgrims would not walk.
Many people on the forum have posted that without the ability to have their luggage transported they would not be able to walk. I fully support them and their decision, nonetheless they are now on the trail whereas in days gone by they would not have been.
Tour groups of course add massively to the camino numbers, although I have to say I was unaware of the phenomena you have mentioned. I thought that was simply a trail myth, but then I have yet to walk the Frances. Still, that only affects the villages, not the trail per se.
Heck even the very success of this forum and all of the assistance that forum members so willingly give ads to the numbers.!
Without the films, books and numerous YouTube videos (and other social media) a huge number of people would never have heard of the camino in the first place let alone walked it.
I myself am a case in point. At a rough point in my life I came across Nadine's videos. ( And she is a solo Walker if ever there was one!) Then yours and Robbo's and several other forum members videos.
10 weeks later I walked my first Camino, three months after that my second. And I will walk again every opportunity I get henceforth.
I previously always walked alone, and loved it. But the Camino has taught me to value the company of my fellow pilgrims.
I'm now active here on the forum, helping as and when I can. I've enrolled for a Hospitalero training course, and will hopefully volunteer for my first time next year. As to picking up rubbish I do that on any trail I am wherever I am in the world - especially plastic - it bugs the hell out of me, and and has done for many years.

I'm also very vocal about my love for the Camino, including posting on YouTube. Which potentially in time will also add to the 'problem' .
And you know what ? I wouldn't have it any other way.
 
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Oops, I will start my camino from Porto next sunday.. Wasn't planning on booking in advance, but I guess now I might do so. Bummer.

Same problem on the central?
 
I arrived in Santiago yesterday from camino frances and met two women in the albergue that had been on the portuguese from Porto and they both reported great difficulties getting a bed. They managed - but had both had to use booking.com and stay in hotels etc - and were surprised by the fairly large numbers of pilgrims.
 
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It's a whole new world on the Camino and not just on the Camino Frances!
I've seen more and more posts from people walking ALL the various routes!
And many many going back again and again - like some of us here on the Forum.
I think unless a person is extremely flexible, or gets up and starts extremely early. the days of not booking are close to being at an end in some villages.
I've booked all my group's lodging for May 2024 and some places were already full.
I know business must be great for those living/working on the Camino, but in my heart of hearts, I sort of hope this wave of bucket list people ends soon - but I don't expect it will.
Fondly remembering those quiet Camino days - wondering if my body is up to a quieter winter Camino...
It’s very sad but reality unfortunately.
 
My whining isn't about pilgrimages to Santiago. It's about the rude people who scatter toilet paper, bottles, and trash, who start fights with hospitaleros, who click click click through villages at 4 am laughing at the top of their lungs waking up the entire village, and who complain about albergues when they could well afford private lodging.

Ironic? Maybe... or maybe just whistful thinking - the same type most people of a certain age have when daydreaming about the good old days...
Maybe it's like that for me too. Since my first camino the whole thing has changed a lot. I never booked ahead & there was a different atmosphere. Am I just getting older? I'm remembering a conversation a few days ago where I said that this might be my last camino. I feel "outcaminoed" - maybe I have one more in me, but it will have to wait till I'm 70 or something like that. Maybe I need a distance to the camino experience.
 
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I have just started walking out of Porto, and was looking forward at accomodation availability for the next few days, and it seems all the bookable accomodation in albergues is full! I don’t want to have to resort to private rooms every night and was wondering if others were finding it difficult to get albergue beds?

I walked the Frances last year and hardly ever booked ahead and as was not intending to on the Portugues Coastal, but really nervous that I will have to rush each day to find accommodation.

I’m interested to hear your experience if currently or recently on the coastal and senda litoral route

Thanks
Hello,

Thanks for this. It’s v disappointing to hear there are hardly any beds out of porto onwards. I also hadn’t planned on private accomm every night.
 
I don't want to discourage you, but yes, we have had difficulties. Leaving Porto on September 7, we thought we'd do albergues. Our 1st albergue on the Senda Litoral had 24 beds but tried to accommodate others in need. There must have been 40 pilgrims total counting those on floors. After that we (5) started looking for apartments, etc. and had difficulties still. We jumped to the Central from Esposende to Barcelos and still had difficulties. Today our apartment was double booked by Booking and we ended up in multiple rooms in a hotel in Padron. Looking ahead to Santiago, available beds are few and expensive. You might be more successful with albergues between cities, but the Camino Portugues is busy.
Thanks for this - it sounds like I may end up sleeping outside! Oh dear
 
It has been the same on Camino Primitivo last 10 days. Too many pilgrims for number of beds. Several folks took taxi 30 km forward or back to find nearest bed.
 
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Hello,

Thanks for this. It’s v disappointing to hear there are hardly any beds out of porto onwards. I also hadn’t planned on private accomm every night.
Be careful about concluding this. The OP was referring to bookable beds. There are municipal and parish albergues that won't be on booking.com. It is not always going to be clear whether they can be booked, but clearly some cannot. They will have beds available each day, albeit with the risk of arriving after they have filled up.
 
I have just started walking out of Porto, and was looking forward at accomodation availability for the next few days, and it seems all the bookable accomodation in albergues is full! I don’t want to have to resort to private rooms every night and was wondering if others were finding it difficult to get albergue beds?

I walked the Frances last year and hardly ever booked ahead and as was not intending to on the Portugues Coastal, but really nervous that I will have to rush each day to find accommodation.

I’m interested to hear your experience if currently or recently on the coastal and senda litoral route

Thanks
I walked the Portuguese senda litoral/coastal in April & May. It was my fifth camino (previously Frances, Portuguese central/Fistera-Muxía, Primitivo, Baztán/Frances, always arriving at Santiago) and it was very different. On previous caminos I rarely booked ahead, as this forces you to arrive at a particular place on a particular day. Also, I found that if you were late arriving they gave your bed to someone else anyway.

This year I had made a list of albergues I liked the look/sound of and that I would like to stay at. The first night the (municipal) albergue was full, and I was kindly allowed to sleep on a mattress on the dining-room floor. The next morning I tried to book an albergue for that night but the hospitalero would not accept a telephone booking; he said people booked by telephone and then did not turn up - so I had to book by internet. After this I booked every night by internet, via booking.com, and found that most of the places on my list were booked out and I had little choice but to accept whatever booking.com offered.

I found the standard of many of the albergues to be much better than on previous caminos before the pandemic. In quite a number of cases, however the number of showers/WCs in proportion to the number of beds was quite inadequate. In one alberque the single shower/WC to 12 bunks was quite dreadful.

Most hospitalero/as were extremely kind and helpful and were aware of the dificulties pilgrims were having in securing accomodation
 
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