Gareth Griffith
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I was very pleasantly surprised today when I saw The Way will be on TV over here. It will be the first time for me to see it. I remember the last time it was shown I was on Camino. Few minutes and it begins...Watching Martin Sheen in the film "The Way" he has a night in Roncesvalles and then moves on to within a few kilometres of Pamplona where he gives up on his fat friend who continues on to Pamplona on his own. He overnights and sets of the following morning, phoning home on his mobile to tell his secretary to cancel all his appointments.
He then stops for a coffee and a roll at Orisson!
I know that at the beginning of the journey he twice takes the wrong route even before he's out of St Jean Pied de Port but this takes the biscuit!
I've not even done my first Camino yet, but if I hit Orisson after Roncesvalles I know I'm in trouble!!
Watching Martin Sheen in the film "The Way" he has a night in Roncesvalles and then moves on to within a few kilometres of Pamplona where he gives up on his fat friend who continues on to Pamplona on his own. He overnights and sets of the following morning, phoning home on his mobile to tell his secretary to cancel all his appointments.
He then stops for a coffee and a roll at Orisson!
I know that at the beginning of the journey he twice takes the wrong route even before he's out of St Jean Pied de Port but this takes the biscuit!
I've not even done my first Camino yet, but if I hit Orisson after Roncesvalles I know I'm in trouble!!
Exactly.I think the juxtaposition of the scenes and routing is called literary license. It is used as a plot device to support the telling of the story.
But, I agree with many of the posters above, those pilgrims whose main motivation for doing the Camino Frances was seeing this film will be disappointed. It is a film that tells a story, not a documentary.
I hope this helps.
Watching Martin Sheen in the film "The Way" he has a night in Roncesvalles and then moves on to within a few kilometres of Pamplona where he gives up on his fat friend who continues on to Pamplona on his own. He overnights and sets of the following morning, phoning home on his mobile to tell his secretary to cancel all his appointments.
He then stops for a coffee and a roll at Orisson!
I know that at the beginning of the journey he twice takes the wrong route even before he's out of St Jean Pied de Port but this takes the biscuit!
I've not even done my first Camino yet, but if I hit Orisson after Roncesvalles I know I'm in trouble!!
Watching Martin Sheen in the film "The Way" he has a night in Roncesvalles and then moves on to within a few kilometres of Pamplona where he gives up on his fat friend who continues on to Pamplona on his own. He overnights and sets of the following morning, phoning home on his mobile to tell his secretary to cancel all his appointments.
He then stops for a coffee and a roll at Orisson!
I know that at the beginning of the journey he twice takes the wrong route even before he's out of St Jean Pied de Port but this takes the biscuit!
I've not even done my first Camino yet, but if I hit Orisson after Roncesvalles I know I'm in trouble!!
Least expensive way to get to the Camino Frances.....its funny you said that I watched the movie also and got inspired to look into doin the camino I have no idea how I would get over there I have to do some research, I am 63 yrs old with a lot of baggage to get rid of, some minor some major that I cant let go of like sheen, so I would like any help or info and prices (low budget) so I can get over there-thanks much dave" the bird"
Actually the movie was filmed "sequentially" - that is they started filming in St Jean and continued SW (to Burgos) and then West to Santiago. If you accept that it's a movie - not a pilgrimage/doco then allow some of the errors. If you get the see the DVD and the extra scenes that go with it - Martin Shean / Emilio Estevez / David Alexanian get together and discuss how each major scene was put together and then filmed - like Martin walks into Pamplona via the road the pilgrim route exits - it was easier the shoot the scene; it was the same on the train arriving at St Jean - its going the "wrong" way. cheersI like the movie for it's message and beautiful landscape, but it would never have been my catalyst to walk the Camino, as so many seem to do.Remembering 2 couples I met on route, both wanting to "re-create" their Camino to be as portrait in the movie... 1 gave up in frustration, because it just isn't sequentially shot, the other persevered and once they let go of the movie version... their Camino was a blessing.!
Hi Krishna Sen,There are lots of people in their 60s doing the Camino. It is not a difficult walk and focusing on getting your rucksack as light as possible helps get rid of a LOT of baggage - real and imaginedHope you get started on the way soon, Gareth!
I just want to say, that even though there are discrepancies in the continuity of the film it was a turning point in my life!! I am 72 .I saw it in 2010 when it came out and it gave me the desire to Walk "The Way" and I've been obsessed with It ever since!! My wife and I walked Leon to SdC in 2013 and plan the full Camino fromSJpP this fall. I feel a calling byHi Gareth,
There are a few anomalies in the film. You have spotted the obvious one already, and will notice more once you have walked the Camino.
When the group leaves O Cebreiro they are walking the wrong way. Also the bridge where Tom drops his pack in the river is not on the Camino, many people have looked for it on their Caminos but never found it!!
Buen Camino,
Mike
once they let go of the movie version... their Camino was a blessing!
its funny you said that I watched the movie also and got inspired to look into doin the camino I have no idea how I would get over there I have to do some research, I am 63 yrs old with a lot of baggage to get rid of, some minor some major that I cant let go of like sheen, so I would like any help or info and prices (low budget) so I can get over there-thanks much dave" the bird"
The premise that someone could die from the weather in about September is quite far fetched, too. In many shots, the grape vines are still green; in some they have turned to fall colors, so the setting is not winter when most deaths have occurred. It is fiction, so the writer and director control reality!Watching Martin Sheen in the film "The Way"
True, jeans are not the most practical Camino attire, but on my Caminos I did see several pilgrims wearing them. On my last one I saw one young pilgrim wearing cotton board shorts and polo shirts everyday. His footwear was a pair of canvas deck shoe type sneakers. He strolled right along. It was amusing watching him walk by pilgrims looking like REI catalog illustrations, ha ha.What struck me in the film is that they wear jeans
There are lots of people in their 60s doing the Camino. It is not a difficult walk and focusing on getting your rucksack as light as possible helps get rid of a LOT of baggage - real and imaginedHope you get started on the way soon, Gareth!
Yes , I watched this yesterday and was quite confused too. But, as I'm sure they say, everyone's camino is different! Wept everytime someone said "Buon Camino" though... Aaaah, planning the next stage. Once a pellegrino, always on the Camino....Hi Gareth,
There are a few anomalies in the film. You have spotted the obvious one already, and will notice more once you have walked the Camino.
When the group leaves O Cebreiro they are walking the wrong way. Also the bridge where Tom drops his pack in the river is not on the Camino, many people have looked for it on their Caminos but never found it!!
Buen Camino,
Mike
I wore jeans. No problems. It was the footwear i had trouble with. Ended up with velcro strap sandals that I didn't do up over the toes.very comfy and perfectly safe (surprisingly). I'd do it bareTrue, jeans are not the most practical Camino attire, but on my Caminos I did see several pilgrims wearing them. On my last one I saw one young pilgrim wearing cotton board shorts and polo shirts everyday. His footwear was a pair of canvas deck shoe type sneakers. He strolled right along. It was amusing watching him walk by pilgrims looking like REI catalog illustrations, ha ha.
someone did go missing, presumed dead, in October last year.The premise that someone could die from the weather in about September is quite far fetched, too. In many shots, the grape vines are still green; in some they have turned to fall colors, so the setting is not winter when most deaths have occurred. It is fiction, so the writer and director control reality!
I wore jeans. No problems. It was the footwear i had trouble with. Ended up with velcro strap sandals that I didn't do up over the toes.very comfy and perfectly safe (surprisingly). I'd do it bare
someone did go missing, presumed dead, in October last year.
foot but...I wore jeans. No problems. It was the footwear i had trouble with. Ended up with velcro strap sandals that I didn't do up over the toes.very comfy and perfectly safe (surprisingly). I'd do it bare
My son and I cycled the Camino Frances in eight days in 2014. His friend from Australia did it barefoot and his father walked in boots - the son's feet fared best - having said that he's not worn shoes at all for fifteen years!foot but...
True, jeans are not the most practical Camino attire, but on my Caminos I did see several pilgrims wearing them. On my last one I saw one young pilgrim wearing cotton board shorts and polo shirts everyday. His footwear was a pair of canvas deck shoe type sneakers. He strolled right along. It was amusing watching him walk by pilgrims looking like REI catalog illustrations, ha ha.
Well, I saw the young man all along the Way happily strolling along and later saw him in Santiago looking no worse for the wear.That boat-shoe pilgrim is the kind of pilgrim most likely to have to cut his Camino short because of foot and knee problems. I live on a boat 6 months out of the year and wear Topsiders constantly. They are great on a boat but devils when walking any distance. They have no support for the foot and no traction at all. I plan to look exactly like an REI illustration because I plan to buy appropriate gear to get me through to Santiago from SJPDP. I did an experimental walk of just 3 miles two days ago in an old and comfortable pair of sneakers from Kmart. Two hot spots on my feet about to blister by the time I got back! You have to be incredibly fit or incredibly lucky to get by on cheap gear, no matter where you walk.
Re "The Way": It's a very good movie, IMO, and was my initial inspiration to walk the Camino, but I have no desire to recreate the movie, and I have no emotional baggage to unload. I just want to experience it for myself -- no expectations, no hopes -- just open to whatever happens.
ha ha...I see you clarified that remark. You had me doing the Mr. Spock one eyebrow raised with the first one.foot but...
Hi Gareth,
There are a few anomalies in the film. You have spotted the obvious one already, and will notice more once you have walked the Camino.
When the group leaves O Cebreiro they are walking the wrong way. Also the bridge where Tom drops his pack in the river is not on the Camino, many people have looked for it on their Caminos but never found it!!
Buen Camino,
Mike
Well, I saw the young man all along the Way happily strolling along and later saw him in Santiago looking no worse for the wear.
Youth doth have its privileges.
Yeah, and then there was another pilgrim I met in 2014 outside of Carrion de los Condes. It was drizzling rain that day and we walked for a couple of hours together. He was about 50 years old and all his stuff looked like it came from Wal-Mart and he was wearing one of those cheap, almost disposable rain ponchos. The kind you see vendors selling at tourist spots. He told me he had bought all his stuff at Target and Wal-Mart and had no problems. I saw him again a few days later still trekking along. I'm sure he got to Santiago without a hitch.Yup, one of the lucky ones.
I watched an interview with Martin Sheen about The Way, it didn't add value to Martin Sheen - flippant and shallow were the terms that came to mind. I guess overall disappointing, he is an actor and any depth of character he portrayed was someone else's. The movie did motivate me to research the camino and we leave in 27 daysWatching Martin Sheen in the film "The Way" he has a night in Roncesvalles and then moves on to within a few kilometres of Pamplona where he gives up on his fat friend who continues on to Pamplona on his own. He overnights and sets of the following morning, phoning home on his mobile to tell his secretary to cancel all his appointments.
He then stops for a coffee and a roll at Orisson!
I know that at the beginning of the journey he twice takes the wrong route even before he's out of St Jean Pied de Port but this takes the biscuit!
I've not even done my first Camino yet, but if I hit Orisson after Roncesvalles I know I'm in trouble!!
Good advice - for us from NZ it was cheapest flying into Toulouse and then train to Bayonne then SJPDP. It certainly pays to shop around for flights. We fly out of Madrid heading home.Least expensive way to get to the Camino Frances.....
It seems to me that the cheapest way is to fly into Madrid and then to take a bus to Pamplona and another bus to St Jean Pied de Port. Once there, get to walking the next morning.
As far as flights from the US to Madrid you got to do some shopping around, and maybe be flexible with your dates.
As far as budget accommodations while walking the Camino, stay in the municipal albergues (5-12 euros a night on average).
You can find all kinds of information on all that on this forum.
My son and I cycled the Camino Frances in eight days in 2014. His friend from Australia did it barefoot and his father walked in boots - the son's feet fared best - having said that he's not worn shoes at all for fifteen years!
I watched the one someone else posted on here with him and his son, Emilio Estevez talking about the movie and making it. Mind you, I realize they are both actors, and being actors they play make believe for a living, but both came across to me as being sincere about why they made the movie and their Catholic faith.I watched an interview with Martin Sheen about The Way, it didn't add value to Martin Sheen - flippant and shallow were the terms that came to mind. I guess overall disappointing, he is an actor and any depth of character he portrayed was someone else's. The movie did motivate me to research the camino and we leave in 27 days
Fly to Ireland then flight to Biarritz on budget airline Ryanair. On way back fly back to Ireland with Aer Lingus or budget line Vuelling. US immigration and customs operate in Dublin airport, then you fly back to the States as if you were on an internal flight. No hassle on arrival home. If you go via madrid and Pamplona try contacting a Pension in Viscarreta. He will pick you up at Pamplona bus station, take you to his Pension where his wife will serve you up a lovely dinner then next morning take you to St Jean. If I remember correctly the pension is called Corrazón. Maybe others on the forum can confirm or correct me on the name.its funny you said that I watched the movie also and got inspired to look into doin the camino I have no idea how I would get over there I have to do some research, I am 63 yrs old with a lot of baggage to get rid of, some minor some major that I cant let go of like sheen, so I would like any help or info and prices (low budget) so I can get over there-thanks much dave" the bird"
Thanks MSPath for confirming the pension name. They are a lovely couple. Barbara lived in my hometown, Belfast, for a while some years ago so we had a lot to talk about. Istvan was talking about writing a book which got me round to talking about mine. I had a copy in my backpack which I gave to him as he really impressed me as a marvellous person. And boy, can Barbara cookThe pension is Corazon Puro. The gracious hosts are Istvan and Barbara. See more here at their site.
I watched an interview with Martin Sheen about The Way, it didn't add value to Martin Sheen - flippant and shallow were the terms that came to mind. I guess overall disappointing, he is an actor and any depth of character he portrayed was someone else's. The movie did motivate me to research the camino and we leave in 27 days
I was at REI the other day and was looking at shirts and couldn't believe the prices. I then went to Walmart and bought 2 poly/blend shirts marked as dri/360 which supposedly wick moisture away from the body. They were $9.00 each. We'll see if they last the length of the Camino Frances. Where I did spend a lot of money was on my shoes. I bought Asolos as they were the only ones I could find that fit me. I am 5'1" tall and wear a men's size 6 shoe and I ended up having to buy a size 7, which with good socks seem very comfortable. I have from now until September to break them in.Yeah, and then there was another pilgrim I met in 2014 outside of Carrion de los Condes. It was drizzling rain that day and we walked for a couple of hours together. He was about 50 years old and all his stuff looked like it came from Wal-Mart and he was wearing one of those cheap, almost disposable rain ponchos. The kind you see vendors selling at tourist spots. He told me he had bought all his stuff at Target and Wal-Mart and had no problems. I saw him again a few days later still trekking along. I'm sure he got to Santiago without a hitch.
I don't think I've spent over $200.00 on all my gear I've walked three CF's with. Fleece pullover, socks, shorts and underwear from Wal-Mart. Merrell trail shoes bought on sale at Academy sporting goods. Backpack bought on sale sight unseen off the internet.
I always advocate on here to prospective pilgrims reading these threads not to get the impression they have to spend a fortune on gear to walk the Camino. I would hate to see someone be put off from walking the Camino by that misconception as quite a few walk the Camino on a tight budget. I would say to them, just get yourself over there, don't worry about what kind of gear you can afford. It ain't like Hillary climbing Everest or Livingstone looking for the source of the Nile.
I wear those Dri 360 shirts all the time for running. Great shirt and great price. They are made by Russell which has been making athletic clothing for years.I was at REI the other day and was looking at shirts and couldn't believe the prices. I then went to Walmart and bought 2 poly/blend shirts marked as dri/360 which supposedly wick moisture away from the body. They were $9.00 each. We'll see if they last the length of the Camino Frances. Where I did spend a lot of money was on my shoes. I bought Asolos as they were the only ones I could find that fit me. I am 5'1" tall and wear a men's size 6 shoe and I ended up having to buy a size 7, which with good socks seem very comfortable. I have from now until September to break them in.
Actually if you saw what Ed climbed in you may want to rephrase that, he was well know for wearing hand knitted jumpers, and a teatowel tucked under a battered hat... Very budget and not like the movies at all...I would say to them, just get yourself over there, don't worry about what kind of gear you can afford. It ain't like Hillary climbing Everest ...
I lived for seven years in St Andrews in Scotland - famous for its university and as the home of golf. I always find it funny to watch the opening sequence of the film Chariots of Fire where the actors run along a beach and then across the Old Course in front of the world-famous R&A club house but a subtitle appears on screen to tell everyone the scene is in the south of EnglandJist count yourself lucky the film was shot in Prague or Montreal as so many movies with older decor are. Since when are movies shot where they are supposed to take place?
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