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Murray to Mountains Rail Trail

BobM

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Has anyone walked this trail from Bright to Wangaratta? I am looking to do the walk in the next month. I need a regular walking fix until the world opens up again and I can walk the Kumano Kodo that I wanted to do in 2020 before too much physical decrepitude sets in. I have done a few itty bitty day hikes in the Grampians and around Mildura, but they don't satisfy my craving.

The Murray to Mountains Rail Trail is about 83km walking and there seem to be reasonably convenient stops for accommodation without having to camp. It has the advantages of wonderful scenery, and the historical context of this abandoned trail line (one of so many in rural Australia - and indeed the world) and other aspects of local history interest me. Wineries as well!🍷

The route is also easily bikeable if I choose that option as a new experience. You can rent bikes (incl eBikes) in Bright and there are bus connections from Wangaratta to Bright for the return journey if my starting point is Bright (that's the downhill direction to Wangaratta :)). With a bit of planning it is also possible to go by train to and from Melbourne and avoid having to take a car at all.

Anyway, I would love to hear the experiences of previous walkers.

All the best for 2021

Bob M
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What a great idea. Big plus you will know what the locals are saying in the Pub.
I have already discovered that the locals are not big fans of the Melbourne lockdown and assorted border closures affecting their COVID-free livelihoods. I will have to disguise my Melbourne accent in the pub.

Bob M
 

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@BobM Im very interested as a local make-do until the Camino in Spain becomes possible again. Obviously not now (I’m in greater Sydney) but if we get back to no community transmissions. I’ve always thought the distances between stops would be too difficult for walking unless with car backup support or camping. Can you tell us what stages you plan; distances, stopping places and accommodation possibilities? And definitely report back once you’ve done it. I think lots of us Australian Camino addicts would be interested.
I’ve looked at the Heysen trail and the ones in WA but they all seem to need a lot of planning or carrying tents and supplies.
 

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@BobM Im very interested as a local make-do until the Camino in Spain becomes possible again. Obviously not now (I’m in greater Sydney) but if we get back to no community transmissions. I’ve always thought the distances between stops would be too difficult for walking unless with car backup support or camping. Can you tell us what stages you plan; distances, stopping places and accommodation possibilities? And definitely report back once you’ve done it. I think lots of us Australian Camino addicts would be interested.
I’ve looked at the Heysen trail and the ones in WA but they all seem to need a lot of planning or carrying tents and supplies.
Will do. But first up, all the best with your COVID lockdown. It's not an easy thing for us, but I cannot imagine what our friends in Europe (I still include the UK in Europe as well) must be going through at the moment.

I was surprised to find out how much accommodation there seems to be on the MMRT, but over summer it is heavily booked. I was of your view that hiking in Australia generally required camping because of long distances.

This route seems to have a well-established hiking/cycling infrastructure. You can hire bikes, get luggage etc transfers. See this MMRT website for more info.

Anyway, I have just started planning today, assuming I will walk or maybe cycle. I have never done any long distance touring cycling, so that would be a first.

I will keep you posted.

Bob M
 
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@BobM Im very interested as a local make-do until the Camino in Spain becomes possible again. Obviously not now (I’m in greater Sydney) but if we get back to no community transmissions. I’ve always thought the distances between stops would be too difficult for walking unless with car backup support or camping. Can you tell us what stages you plan; distances, stopping places and accommodation possibilities? And definitely report back once you’ve done it. I think lots of us Australian Camino addicts would be interested.
I’ve looked at the Heysen trail and the ones in WA but they all seem to need a lot of planning or carrying tents and supplies.
You could also consider the Brisbane Valley Rail Trail. It is 161km, from Yarraman to Wulkuraka (near Ipswich). I walked it in 7 days, but it's doable in 6. Most of the users are cyclists but it works well for walkers. I had no problems with accommodation - 4 country pubs, 2 B&Bs and 1 country motel.
Best of all, fully accessible at both ends and most intermediate stops by public transport from Brisbane.
 

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I have discovered that rail trails are far more common than I had realised. Here is a quote from someone who walked the MMRT in 2019:
"19 trails now completed, only 8 to go for my 2019 challenge is to ride every rail trail in Victoria this calendar year to promote organ donation. You can follow my rail trail exploits on FB Warwick Duncan - The 2nd Chance Man or Insta @warwick_rides."

Railways were built along the easiest gradients available (often improved with cuttings and tunnels), so they make for gentle walking and cycling.

Steam trains of the day required plenty of water for their boilers, so railway lines were often built close to rivers. The MMRT for example, follows the Ovens River. In outback Australia, artesian water was often used, sometimes requiring rudimentary desalination plants, whose remnants can still be seen in some places.

It's an interesting sub-obsession in the broader class of pilgrimage obsessions.

Bob M
 

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You could also consider the Brisbane Valley Rail Trail. It is 161km, from Yarraman to Wulkuraka (near Ipswich). I walked it in 7 days, but it's doable in 6. Most of the users are cyclists but it works well for walkers. I had no problems with accommodation - 4 country pubs, 2 B&Bs and 1 country motel.
Best of all, fully accessible at both ends and most intermediate stops by public transport from Brisbane.
Hi Graeme, would you mind giving us your stages and where you stayed? A friend and I were looking at the BVRT and there seemed to be a couple of stages where accommodation was an issue. We are in Sydney so closed borders put an end to our plans but it is something we would like to do, hopefully later this year.
 

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I have attached two contrasting photos from short walks I have done since being freed from COVID lockdown in Melbourne. Our European friends may find the starkness of the landscape somewhat forbidding, but I find it appealing and there is a feeling of almost euphoria in some cases.

But parts of Australia present dangers for the unwary and unprepared walker, and I would like to share with you the desperately tragic story of Gabriele Caroline Grossmueller. It raises all sorts of questions about human behaviour and how we interact with our surroundings in a given situation, and make decisions that seem inexplicable. Perhaps the optimism and over-confidence of youth played a part in this tragedy.

Gabriele has two monuments, one where her body was found and the other in the small park in William Creek. Her story affected me a great deal when I visited these monuments set in a stark land far from the beautiful countryside of Austria, and too far for any of her family to come and mourn her.

If you are ever in the area, please make a pilgrimage to the monuments and say a short prayer for Gabriele.

Bob M
 

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Hi Bob, I haven't walked the trail, but I have cycled it. It was an easy 2 day ride with a stopover in Beechworth. When I did it, there were not a lot of people either cycling or walking, except around Beechworth and Myrtleford, where there were a lot of families enjoying the fresh air and mountain scenery. Walking would be good as there is a lot to explore off the trail as well as things to see along the way. You would need to plan carefully for accommodation as it is a very popular area and can book out in busy times. I camped, so it was not a problem. One thing you should not miss is the bakery in Beechworth, it is well worth the wait for a table.
 
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Hi Bob, I haven't walked the trail, but I have cycled it. It was an easy 2 day ride with a stopover in Beechworth. When I did it, there were not a lot of people either cycling or walking, except around Beechworth and Myrtleford, where there were a lot of families enjoying the fresh air and mountain scenery. Walking would be good as there is a lot to explore off the trail as well as things to see along the way. You would need to plan carefully for accommodation as it is a very popular area and can book out in busy times. I camped, so it was not a problem. One thing you should not miss is the bakery in Beechworth, it is well worth the wait for a table.
I agree about accommodation. I was hoping to do my walk in late January, but all the places to stay are booked out; and anyway they are not as conveniently located for 20-km stages as I had first thought. Now I am thinking of arranging taxi pickups and dropoffs when required. That option would mean I could base myself in accommodation in say Myrtleford.

But I am becoming more attracted to the cycling alternative. How did you find the ride up to Beechworth? Some people say the ascent from Everton (15km?) is not so easy.

Bob M
 

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Live is not meant to be easy! If you take your time, rest when needed and enjoy the scenery, it is quite manageable. If you do not regularly ride, it would be difficult. I don't like the idea of an electric bike, too much to go wrong when you are away from help. I don't like your taxi idea, very expensive and would probably ruin the experience, you would be better off just staying in Bright, Myrtleford or Beechworth and doing day walks.
 

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. . . If you take your time, rest when needed and enjoy the scenery, it is quite manageable. If you do not regularly ride, it would be difficult. I don't like the idea of an electric bike, too much to go wrong when you are away from help. I don't like your taxi idea, very expensive and would probably ruin the experience, you would be better off just staying in Bright, Myrtleford or Beechworth and doing day walks.
More excellent advice, especially as I agree with you!

There is another problem with ebikes: They are heavy, which is no problem when all goes well, but if you have to physically move the bike over obstacles, or carry it up steps, then an ebike is not such a blessing.

I did some quick numbers on the taxi option and it is costly.

More to think about.

Bob M
 

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Im very interested as a local make-do until the Camino in Spain becomes possible again. Obviously not now (I’m in greater Sydney) but if we get back to no community transmissions. I’ve always thought the distances between stops would be too difficult for walking unless with car backup support or camping. Can you tell us what stages you plan; distances, stopping places and accommodation possibilities? And definitely report back once you’ve done it. I think lots of us Australian Camino addicts would be interested.
I’ve looked at the Heysen trail and the ones in WA but they all seem to need a lot of planning or carrying tents and supplies.
I‘m also very keen to find a local make-do that doesn’t require the complications of camping or transport . Avoiding camping means a lighter packs which also tempts more friends/family to participate. Avoiding transport means fewer interruptions to the simplicity of pure walking. I tried two multi-day alternatives in 2019 due to Covid.
- I did the first week of the Heysen Trail (https://heysentrail.asn.au/event/south-coast-week-2020/) with a mate. Each day is well-planned. Everyone (approx 50) booked their own accommodation at different places. My mate and I stayed the week in Victor Harbour and drove to the end-point of the walk each day where a bus collected everyone and delivered us to the start for that day. Everyone walked in one group with leaders at the front, middle and back. The leaders were fantastic and experienced Heysen walkers. The people were all very friendly too. There was one night when we all met together which was more reminiscent of the Camino. One highlight was the scenery .... the first week of the Heysen Trail is amaaaazing!
- I did the 5 day walk in the Blue MOuntains (Penrith to Blackheath) with the Blue MOuntains Camino Support Group, staying at Glenella guesthouse with many of the others. We caught the train each morning to the start for that day. It was very reminiscent of the Camino. Each breakfast/afternoon/evening some might meet at a pub or cafe. Some would make their own meals at Glenella and some evenings we made them together. We had such fun each night include some Zoom meetings (eg. Guidebook author John Brierley; Suzi from Casa Suzi albergue). There were several walking routes (a direct one which was shorter and technical one which went more bush) to choose and people could walk in groups or by themselves. We’d often meet at a pub/cafe at the end of the walk. Glenella owners, Margaret & Rowan have done a brilliant job of replicating the Camino albergue atmosphere and the BM Camino group are highly dedicated to replicating other crucial Camino elements too.

I’ve also been looking at options around the Great North Walk.

So far the Blue MOuntains variant most closely represents the essential Camino elements for me. I’ll be booking in to that one again for sure and will be exploring these rail trails as well so thanks for this @BobM etc

Cheers, Mark
PS. I rode my bike on the Murray rail trail 7 years ago but did it as day trips staying in one caravan park. I have fond memories of some of the scenery especially around Beechworth and Bright. I’d be interested in doing it again as a multi-day walk though (if I can get a few others to come along).
 
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BobM

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Just a quick update on my preliminary plan to walk the MMRT.

There are doable stages for those like me who prefer to walk about 20km/day. As usual, accommodation is the issue for hikers who do not wish to carry camping gear. If you are happy to walk 30km+ per day, then accommodation would not be a problem.

Here was my first rough plan until a show-stopper arose (more on that later).

Day 1: Bright to Eurobin (16km). Accom available at GG's By the River.
Day 2: Eurobin to Myrtleford (17km). Plenty of accommodation available.
Day 3: Myrtleford to Everton (26km). Accommodation at Everton Caravan and Tourist Park.
Day 4: Everton to Wangaratta (28 km). Plenty of accommodation. An alt route is along the Alpine Highway (22km)

You could also leave the MMRT after Everton and stay at Milawa (accom avail, winery also), then continue on roads to Wangaratta. Leaving the MMRT does not appeal to me - that's the whole point of the hike for me.

The show stopper is that 'GG's By the River' is heavily booked into April, charges $400/night and does not like single night stays anyway.

So I am tweaking my stages, maybe:
Bright to Porepunkah (9km) in an easy walk. Plenty of accommodation.
Porepunkah to Myrtleford (24km).

Taxi transfers are too expensive, but one transfer company in Bright is less expensive (charges an hourly rate, not per km) and my contact seems helpful. More on that later, if I choose that option.

Bob M
 
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Here is an OpenStreetMap that shows the MMRT route. You can zoom into any level of detail you want. Various facilities are shown and a few places to stay. The map first displays at Bright, but just zoom and scroll and eventually the label "Murray to Mountains Rail Trail" will pop into view.

BTW, I use the LocusMapPro nav app on my phone (android only) for my walks and the Locus map of Victoria also shows the MMRT.

Bob M
 

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This is really beginning to excite me Bob. I'm thinking that autumn, when the weather starts to cool a bit, and when I'm usually walking in Spain, would be a good time. I'm bookmarking your posts. Keep the updates coming!
 

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If you walk in the autumn, try to time it with the wonderful autumn colours. Just google for images eg "autumn foliage bright". Of course, everyone else wants to see the leaves so accommodation may be problematical. There may be a website that forecasts 'peak colour' as is the case for Japan and the NE USA.
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Another impossible dream for me is to walk in Cherry Blossom Time in Japan.

Ah well. After my COVID jab and the world pulls back from its craziness.

Bob M
 

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BTW, Open Street Maps can be downloaded free to various devices eg phones, Garmin GPS units. The process can be clunky and non-intuitive, especially for Garmin devices. Various websites can help getting the maps.

You can always use Google Maps, but that depends on the signal and can also chew up your data allowance. A dedicated phone nav app accesses GPS satellites and is totally independently of the internet - but not your phone battery!

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I am getting a little off-topic, but I want to preach a bit more about the virtues of dedicated phone nav apps vs Google Maps.

You can record your track in great detail , which is fun. Plus, a dedicated nav app will give altitude profiles and a bunch of other data (I trained as an engineer, BTW - we love data!).

Bob M
 

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Since seeing your query Bob I have done some research too. A friend and I might attempt it, if borders remain open. Having come from Adelaide we would not want to go all the way without going to Beechworth and so this is a possible itinerary including that leg. We are governed by the fact that we would have to catch the Overland to Melbourne, which only operates 2 days a week - hence the Friday Vic travel start! The distances may be a bit off (I was doing a guess on how far the accom. was out of town), but they are near enough for preliminary planning. I went on Booking.com to choose most of the accom. and the prices are for 2 people for a twin room, all with free cancellation except for Milawa. There are other options as well on the trail website.

Friday – train to Wangaratta, dept 7.05 am arr. 9.53 am
V line bus to Bright, dept 10.05 am arr. 11.15 am
Saturday 1st May – Bright to Porepunkah – approx. 7 kms
Stay at – Porepunkah Buffalo Motel & Country Retreat$147 twin
Sunday – Porepunkah to Myrtleford – approx. 23 kms
Stay at – Railway Motel Myrtleford$126 twin
Monday – Myrtleford to Everton – approx.
Stay at – Everton Caravan and Tourist Park $130 twin cabin
Tuesday – Everton to Beechworth – approx. 15kms
Stay at – The Old Priory$100 twin
Wednesday – Beechworth to Milawa – approx. 23 kms (retracing steps for 15kms, but could catch bus @ 9.15 to Everton on M. W. F.. Could then walk direct from Everton to Wangaratta – could then stay an extra night at Beechworth or Bright.)
Stay at – Milawa Motel – $145 twin (only partially refundable)
Thursday – Milawa to Wangaratta – approx. 15kms
Stay at – Meraki House – $149 3 Bedroom house
Friday – Wangaratta to Melbourne dept. 13.39 pm arr. 16.40 p.m.
 
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Will do. But first up, all the best with your COVID lockdown. It's not an easy thing for us, but I cannot imagine what our friends in Europe (I still include the UK in Europe as well) must be going through at the moment.

I was surprised to find out how much accommodation there seems to be on the MMRT, but over summer it is heavily booked. I was of your view that hiking in Australia generally required camping because of long distances.

This route seems to have a well-established hiking/cycling infrastructure. You can hire bikes, get luggage etc transfers. See this MMRT website for more info.

Anyway, I have just started planning today, assuming I will walk or maybe cycle. I have never done any long distance touring cycling, so that would be a first.

I will keep you posted.

Bob M
Thanks Bob,
This is a very interesting topic for a thread. You mention in your above post, the possibility of luggage transfer on the MMRT. We have had a look at the website but can't see anything about it. We would be walking not cycling and probably would arrange accommodation etc ourselves, just wondered if you knew anything more about the luggage transfer side.
Since seeing your query Bob I have done some research too. A friend and I might attempt it, if borders remain open. Having come from Adelaide we would not want to go all the way without going to Beechworth and so this is a possible itinerary including that leg. We are governed by the fact that we would have to catch the Overland to Melbourne, which only operates 2 days a week - hence the Friday Vic travel start! The distances may be a bit off (I was doing a guess on how far the accom. was out of town), but they are near enough for preliminary planning. I went on Booking.com to choose most of the accom. and the prices are for 2 people for a twin room, all with free cancellation except for Milawa. There are other options as well on the trail website.

Friday – train to Wangaratta, dept 7.05 am arr. 9.53 am
V line bus to Bright, dept 10.05 am arr. 11.15 am
Saturday 1st May – Bright to Porepunkah – approx. 7 kms
Stay at – Porepunkah Buffalo Motel & Country Retreat$147 twin
Sunday – Porepunkah to Myrtleford – approx. 23 kms
Stay at – Railway Motel Myrtleford$126 twin
Monday – Myrtleford to Everton – approx.
Stay at – Everton Caravan and Tourist Park $130 twin cabin
Tuesday – Everton to Beechworth – approx. 15kms
Stay at – The Old Priory$100 twin
Wednesday – Beechworth to Milawa – approx. 23 kms (retracing steps for 15kms, but could catch bus @ 9.15 to Everton on M. W. F.. Could then walk direct from Everton to Wangaratta – could then stay an extra night at Beechworth or Bright.)
Stay at – Milawa Motel – $145 twin (only partially refundable)
Thursday – Milawa to Wangaratta – approx. 15kms
Stay at – Meraki House – $149 3 Bedroom house
Friday – Wangaratta to Melbourne dept. 13.39 pm arr. 16.40 p.m.
Thanks JL,
This is a very good itinerary.

All the best to you both,
Anne & Pat
 

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Since seeing your query Bob I have done some research too. A friend and I might attempt it, if borders remain open. Having come from Adelaide we would not want to go all the way without going to Beechworth and so this is a possible itinerary including that leg. We are governed by the fact that we would have to catch the Overland to Melbourne, which only operates 2 days a week - hence the Friday Vic travel start! The distances may be a bit off (I was doing a guess on how far the accom. was out of town), but they are near enough for preliminary planning. I went on Booking.com to choose most of the accom. and the prices are for 2 people for a twin room, all with free cancellation except for Milawa. There are other options as well on the trail website.

Friday – train to Wangaratta, dept 7.05 am arr. 9.53 am
V line bus to Bright, dept 10.05 am arr. 11.15 am
Saturday 1st May – Bright to Porepunkah – approx. 7 kms
Stay at – Porepunkah Buffalo Motel & Country Retreat$147 twin
Sunday – Porepunkah to Myrtleford – approx. 23 kms
Stay at – Railway Motel Myrtleford$126 twin
Monday – Myrtleford to Everton – approx.
Stay at – Everton Caravan and Tourist Park $130 twin cabin
Tuesday – Everton to Beechworth – approx. 15kms
Stay at – The Old Priory$100 twin
Wednesday – Beechworth to Milawa – approx. 23 kms (retracing steps for 15kms, but could catch bus @ 9.15 to Everton on M. W. F.. Could then walk direct from Everton to Wangaratta – could then stay an extra night at Beechworth or Bright.)
Stay at – Milawa Motel – $145 twin (only partially refundable)
Thursday – Milawa to Wangaratta – approx. 15kms
Stay at – Meraki House – $149 3 Bedroom house
Friday – Wangaratta to Melbourne dept. 13.39 pm arr. 16.40 p.m.

More good ideas. You would cover all the highlights. The Old Priory at Beechworth seems a great place to stay. I am also thinking of doing a short stage to Porepunkah to lessen the next day's walk to Myrtleford as per your plan.

Peter at Bright & District Leisure Tours is worth contacting re transfers. (eg if you don't want to trudge uphill all the way to Beechworth) All his contact details are on the website. He seems flexible and you could discuss whether his hourly rates are suitable.

I may end up walking to Everton and calling Peter to pick me up, take me to Myrtleford and then back to Everton next morning to resume my walk. Peter would also be a back up for me in an emergency eg bushfires (I hope to walk in a few weeks, in peak fire season, alas).

Bob M
 

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Thanks Bob,
This is a very interesting topic for a thread. You mention in your above post, the possibility of luggage transfer on the MMRT. We have had a look at the website but can't see anything about it. We would be walking not cycling and probably would arrange accommodation etc ourselves, just wondered if you knew anything more about the luggage transfer side.

Thanks JL,
This is a very good itinerary.

All the best to you both,
Anne & Pat
See my comments about Peter in a post above. He seems very flexible and might be able to help out with luggage. He is the only service I found. Bus-a-Bike could not help.

Bob M
 
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I have pretty much worked out a plan, but it involves one very short stage and three a bit longer than I would prefer:

Day 1: Drive to Bright.
Day 2: Local sightseeing and prep for walk.
Day 3: Bright to Porepunkah (9 km). Accom no problem.
Day 4: Porepunkah to Myrtleford (24m). Accom no problem.
Day 5: Myrtelford to Everton (26km). Everton Caravan & Tourist Park (only accom avail).
Day 6: Everton to Wangaratta (28km). Accom no problem.
Day 7: Bus back to Bright to collect car. BTW, parking at Bright is free but there are time limits. I am checking out the parking at the end of Burke St which was suggested by the Tourist Office for MMRT hikers. You can see it on Google Street View.
Day 8+: Become a tourist! I will drive to Beechworth (stay at Priory and eat at the wonderful bakery suggested by Farmer Col) and Milawa (hic!🍾) for a couple of days before returning home to Melbourne.

My backup transport if I get sick of walking a long stage will be Peter as mentioned a few posts above.

Here is the best website I have found that walks you over the MMRT: MMRT

I will be walking in the bushfire season and it is only sensible to monitor emergencies and the like. Here is the website: Emergencies. There is also an app for androids and apples.

Enjoy!

Bob M
 

P Rat

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You could also consider the Brisbane Valley Rail Trail. It is 161km, from Yarraman to Wulkuraka (near Ipswich). I walked it in 7 days, but it's doable in 6. Most of the users are cyclists but it works well for walkers. I had no problems with accommodation - 4 country pubs, 2 B&Bs and 1 country motel.
Best of all, fully accessible at both ends and most intermediate stops by public transport from Brisbane.
The Brisbane Valley Rail Trail is petty awesome! Cycled twice and walked once. Just be sure to pick the right time of the year, as it can be a bit exposed (we finished the walk in 42 degrees C, it was murder) and yo'll want to avoid the maggies (Magpies for any non-aussies) in the breeding season. Our friend is missing a tiny piece of his ear now. The best bit was when we walked and a local in the park where we stopped for a pick-nick lunch and heat escape said: 'you walked all that way and no-one offered a lift? That's bad'. :) And then informed us that 'there is a bus you know and we wouldn't have had to walk...'.
 

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Sounds good Bob, keep us posted while on your walk. As a firefighter, it is good to see that you are going to be monitoring the Vic Emergency web site, however, please remember that your eyes and nose are probably the best early warning signal, particularly in that area where phone signal is very patchy.
Have fun and enjoy your walk.
 

BobM

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Sounds good Bob, keep us posted while on your walk. As a firefighter, it is good to see that you are going to be monitoring the Vic Emergency web site, however, please remember that your eyes and nose are probably the best early warning signal, particularly in that area where phone signal is very patchy.
Have fun and enjoy your walk.
You are spot on about fire and not to be too reliant on the phone. Also, one should be vigilant about wind direction and changes and think about places of safety when walking in the fire season. I owned a small farm near Kilmore for some years, and I was (still am) a little edgy about fire. A grass fire with no danger to people, stock or buildings may not seem a big deal to city folk watching the TV news, but burning pasture is the sheep or cattle farmer's livelihood going up in smoke.

Anyway, when I have done my walk I will post an 'after action' report.

Bob M
 

taigirl

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Has anyone walked this trail from Bright to Wangaratta? I am looking to do the walk in the next month. I need a regular walking fix until the world opens up again and I can walk the Kumano Kodo that I wanted to do in 2020 before too much physical decrepitude sets in. I have done a few itty bitty day hikes in the Grampians and around Mildura, but they don't satisfy my craving.

The Murray to Mountains Rail Trail is about 83km walking and there seem to be reasonably convenient stops for accommodation without having to camp. It has the advantages of wonderful scenery, and the historical context of this abandoned trail line (one of so many in rural Australia - and indeed the world) and other aspects of local history interest me. Wineries as well!🍷

The route is also easily bikeable if I choose that option as a new experience. You can rent bikes (incl eBikes) in Bright and there are bus connections from Wangaratta to Bright for the return journey if my starting point is Bright (that's the downhill direction to Wangaratta :)). With a bit of planning it is also possible to go by train to and from Melbourne and avoid having to take a car at all.

Anyway, I would love to hear the experiences of previous walkers.

All the best for 2021

Bob M
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taigirl

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Sounds interesting. I belong to a group called Take a hike NE Vic.
Has anyone walked this trail from Bright to Wangaratta? I am looking to do the walk in the next month. I need a regular walking fix until the world opens up again and I can walk the Kumano Kodo that I wanted to do in 2020 before too much physical decrepitude sets in. I have done a few itty bitty day hikes in the Grampians and around Mildura, but they don't satisfy my craving.

The Murray to Mountains Rail Trail is about 83km walking and there seem to be reasonably convenient stops for accommodation without having to camp. It has the advantages of wonderful scenery, and the historical context of this abandoned trail line (one of so many in rural Australia - and indeed the world) and other aspects of local history interest me. Wineries as well!🍷

The route is also easily bikeable if I choose that option as a new experience. You can rent bikes (incl eBikes) in Bright and there are bus connections from Wangaratta to Bright for the return journey if my starting point is Bright (that's the downhill direction to Wangaratta :)). With a bit of planning it is also possible to go by train to and from Melbourne and avoid having to take a car at all.

Anyway, I would love to hear the experiences of previous walkers.

All the best for 2021

Bob M
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BobM

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Sounds interesting. I belong to a group called Take a hike NE Vic.
Great name :). Your motto should be "it's my way or the highway."

Bob M
 

taigirl

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Great name :). Your motto should be "it's my way or the highway."

Bob M
That was only half the post before it disappeared!! Check us out on FB, you might find some that would be interested in joining you. Some have done Camino and at least on has done KK.
 

BobM

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Check us out on FB, you might find some that would be interested in joining you. Some have done Camino and at least on has done KK.
I have an eccentric confession to make, alas: I am possibly the only person on the planet who does not use FB.:eek:

BobM
 

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@BobM that's great. I and a friend will follow in your footsteps in autumn, Covid restrictions allowing (I've given up concrete planning anything!).
 
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BobM

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@BobM that's great. I and a friend will follow in your footsteps in autumn, Covid restrictions allowing (I've given up concrete planning anything!).
I hope to start walking on Sunday, 31 Jan - if the weather is not too hot. I should get an idea of the forecast next week. BTW, we are in a la Nina year, which often makes SE Aust cooler and wetter than usual.

Fed up with my usual over-planning of walks - I just want to hit the road now.

I will post text and pics as I go along if the spirit moves me, otherwise it will be after the event. Hopefully that will be useful.

Best wishes for 2021. Full speed ahead and damn COVID.

Bob
 

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